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Your this self-important mental attitude is not favorable about the forum member, who have been fighting for right. Your preceding mail demonstrating here that you think your self to the highest degree intelligent than others.
Remember who thinks him self brilliant and of import and others are fool is surely him self sap head.

Please refer the page No. 3 of this thread in which I pointed out that you feel right fitting in a affluent family ( As you said i was out of country) this shows your mastery and ego; but what about other pathetic assemblage of the forum. Hoping would forethought in approaching to use such linguistic communication.

Dr. Khushik Sahib, salams...

Since u r a doctor, I can presume that u can understand ENGLISH very well.. this is what I wrote earlier….

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You don't have to bother about my attitude for I have never been a sentimental fool who only believes that what he thinks is right... I have been giving my version of story, which I've never thrusted upon you....

All I care for is competence... I have no respect for incompetent people... Those who fail in our society often accuse the system/nepotism/corruption, not realising that they were not simply good enough....
Now can u plz shed light what made u realize that I think I’ve the highest degree of intelligence….

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Your this self-important mental attitude is not favorable about the forum member, who have been fighting for right.
Let me inform u Dr. Sahib that u & ur mis-guided allies don’t own this forum... since we both r members, we have equal right to present our views.. U can’t force me to say the things which only pleases ur mind…..

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I unfalteringly believe that you feel right fitting in a affluent family,
Dr. Sahib, now what have made u realize that I m from affluent family, I know the financial background of my family........ People like me who have achieved respect, honour & dignity with their hardwork should be role-models for rest of young generation……………



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Pl discuss this issue academically….
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I don't want to answer your reply full of childish arguments. Law will take its course and decide the fate of Jalee candidates.

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I don't want to answer your reply full of childish arguments. Law will take its course and decide the fate of Jalee candidates.

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U r mind is not in condition to distinguish what is right or wrong, dear.. so ur comments on my arguments being childish r as usual filth (with no significance)…

I m not person to be involved in mud-slugging with others… so Babakhan Chill… its ur fiefdom…

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@ Dr. Imtiaz Khushik,
Yar aap ke English meri samajh se bahir he…I could not get what u want to say… I can’t, therefore, reply………….


After initial salutations to modern Aristotles & Platos, I will present the credentials of many successful candidates of CCE-2003:


1. Muhammad Nawaz Sohu (allocated as DDO-R in CCE-2003)
Joined DMG in 2003 through CSS

2. Dr. Farrukh Habibani (allocated as DDO-R in CCE-2003)
Joined PSP in 2004 through CSS

3. Fayaz Hussain Abbasi (allocated as DDO-R in CCE-2003)
Joined DMG in 2005 through CSS

4. Attaullah Shah (allocated as DDO-R in CCE-2003)
Allocated in Pakistan Audit & Accounts Service through CSS but joined Sindh Govt as DDO-R

5. Jamshed Alam Memon (allocated as DDO-R in CCE-2003)
Qualified both written & viva voce of CSS-2001

6. Kamran Ahmed Qureshi (Allocated as DDO-R in CCE-2003)
Joined Pakistan Audit & Accounts Service through CSS & did not join Sindh Govt as DDO-R
7. Fayaz Hussain Jatoi (Allocated as DDO-R in CCE-2003)
Joined DMG through CSS in 2004
8. Saifullah Abro (Allocated as DDO-R in CCE-2003)
Joined Pakistan Audit & Accounts Service through CSS but later on joined Sindh Govt as DDO-R

9. Imran Bhatti (Allocated as DDO-R in CCE-2003)
Chartered Accountant by qualification.
Served as Crown Servant in capacity of Revenue Officer (In land Revenue: Nottingham) United Kingdom
Served as Administrative Officer DWP Birmingham United Kingdom
Passed written portion test of Mukhtiarkar conducted by SPSC in 2002
Passed written portion test of ASI conducted by SPSC in 2003
Worked as Audit officer (IA) Provincial HQ Zakat Deptt Sindh.

10. Ghulam Murtaza Memon(allocated as DDO-R in CCE-2003)
Passed written & viva voce of Combined Competitive Examination-2001 conducted by SPSC
Passed written of Assistant Engineer (Works & Service) conducted by SPSC in 2004.
Secured 1st position in Departmental Exam (Assistant Collector: part-I & II) Conducted by present SPSC


11. Ibrahim Memon (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Qualified written & viva voce of CSS in 2001
Passed Combined Competitive Examination-2001
Passed written portion of Income Tax Officer conducted by FPSC in 2004
Passed written test of Excise Inspector conducted by SPSC
Passed written test of DSP Jail conducted by SPSC
Passed written test of Assistant Director (Population) conducted by SPSC
Passed written test of Protocol Officer conducted by SPSC
Passed written test & viva voce of Mukhtiarkar conducted by SPSC
Passed written test of Income Tax Officer conducted by Income Tax Deptt:
Passed written test of Admin Officer conducted by Pakistan Standards & Quality Control Authority, Government of Pakistan.
Passed written test of Assistant in Ministry of Foreign Affairs

12. Karamullah Soomro (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Allocated in PSP after passing through CSS in 2004

13. Ahsanullah Shah (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Joined Customs &Excise Group in 2005 after passing CSS

14. Mukhtiar Shar (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Joined Income Tax Group in 2005 after passing CSS
Passed CSS again in 2006 but was allocated in the same group

15. Kamran Khan (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Allocated in Allocated in Pakistan Audit & Accounts Service through CSS

16. Muhammad Yaqoob Mangrio (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Qualified both written & viva voce of CSS-2001
Passed written & viva voce of Excise Inspector conducted by SPSC

17. Muhammad Juman Thebo (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Qualified both written & viva voce of CSS-2001 & 2002
Was selected as Income Tax Officer by FPSC (2004): 3rd all-Pakistan
Selected as Excise Inspector by SPSC

18. Fawad Ghaffar Soomro (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Joined DMG in 2007 through CSS

19. Sikandar Baloch (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Qualified both written & viva voce of CSS-2001
Served as Protocol Officer after selected by SPSC in 2000

20. Shabir Ahmed Sethar (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
will join PSP after passing CSS-2008

21. Jahanzeb Abbasi (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Joined Customs in 2007 through CSS

22. Ghulam Haider Mahesar (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Joined Customs in 2005 through CSS
23. Syed Ahmed Fawad (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
will join DMG after passing CSS-2008
Youngest Officer of Batch (was selected as Section Officer at the age of 21, when a student of Masters).
Participated in International Olympics on Mathematics (under-18 group): 1998 Islamabad.
2nd position in Masters of Sociology, University of Sindh.

24. Imran Qureshi (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
will join DMG after passing CSS-2008

25. Shah Hussain (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Qualified both written & viva voce of CSS-2002
26. Salahuddin Syed (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Joined DMG after passing CSS-2007
Worked as Administrative Officer in Defence Housing Authority Karachi.
27. Amant Ali Shar (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Joined Income Tax Group after passing CSS
28. Abdul Qadeer Abbasi (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Joined Income Tax Group after passing CSS
29. Saleem Rajput (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Joined DMG after passing CSS-2007
30. Moula Bux Shaikh (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Gold Medalist in Matriculation
2nd Faculty Top in MUET
Lecturer in MUET
Joined as Assistant Engineer in Military Engineering Services after selection by FPSC
Passed written test & viva voce of Mukhtiarkar conducted by SPSC
Passed written test of Senior Auditor, CBR conducted by FPSC
Joined WAPDA in capacity of Revenue Officer, HESCO.

31. Saeed Ahmed Kalhoro (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Qualified both written & viva voce of CSS-1997
Voluntarily repatriated back to join as his previous position as Assistant Director (Passport) Ministry of Interior
32. Abdul Samad Samo (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Qualified both written & viva voce of CSS-1999 &2000

33. Riaz Ahmed Dahar (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Allocated in Postal Group through CSS-2002
Selected as Lecturer (English) by SPSC

34. Zubair Ahmed Channa (allocated as Labour Officer in CCE-2003)
Joined DMG after passing CSS-2006

35. Abdul Wahid Sario (allocated as Ward Rationing Officer in CCE-2003)
Qualified both written & viva voce of CSS-1999 &2000
Joined Income Tax Department as Income Tax Officer through FPSC

36. Afzal Channa (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Qualified both written & viva voce of CSS-2000
Passed written & viva voce of Combined Competitive Examination-2001 conducted by SPSC

37. Memona Shah (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Qualified the written portion of Civil Judge Examination conducted by Sindh High Court in 2001 & 2003

38. Ali Gul Sanjrani (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Secured 1st Position in English Lecturer-ship exam conducted by SPSC in 1993
Remained a visiting faculty member of English, University of Sindh
Qualified as English Lecturer in FGHP College Islamabad in 1989 through FPSC
39. Saleem Shaikh (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Served as Senior Lecturer in Education & Literacy deptt after securing 1st Position in Exam Held by SPSC.
Was offered PhD by HEC (1st Batch)

40. Aamir Zia Isran (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Served in SSGC for three years before joinig Sindh Government

41. Javed Abro (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
1st Position in Matriculation.
2nd Faculty Top in BE-Civil, Quaid-e-Awam University Nawab Shah
Passed written test & viva voce of Mukhtiarkar conducted by SPSC

42. Ayaz Ahmed Siddiqui (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Selected as Assistant Director in Provincial Ombudsman Sindh through SPSC

43. Abdul Shakoor Noonari (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Passed written & viva voce of Combined Competitive Examination-2001 conducted by SPSC
Before joining Sindh Government, he was working as XEN in SSGC

44. Sara Khan (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Qualified ACCA from United Kingdom

45. Akbar Ali Brahmani (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Qualified both written & viva voce of CSS-2004
46. Farooq Azam Abro (allocated as Labour Officer in CCE-2003)
Joined Ministry of Education against a BPS-18 post onn the recommendations of FPSC.
47. Athar Bahzad Memon (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Secured 1st Position in Sindhi Lecturer-ship exam conducted by SPSC in 1993

48. Mukhtiar Ahmed Malah (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Passed FPSC Lecturer-ship in English
Passed SPSC Lecturer-ship in English
Visiting Lecturer in various CSS/PCS academies in Karachi
Author of more than 25 books

49. Kiran Shaikh (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Before joining Sindh Govt. she served as Assistant Director in Ministry of Defence through FPSC
50. Khurrum Mangi (allocated as Section Officer in CCE-2003)
Passed written test & viva voce of Mukhtiarkar conducted by SPSC
Passed written of Assistant Engineer (Works & Service) conducted by SPSC in 2004.
Worked as Assistant Engineer in Defence Housing Authority Karachi.
Was also selected as Assistant by SPSC in 2004


This is reality… this reflects the real position… It is better for health of people who r bent on calling CCE-2003 as Jalee to see the worth of these hard-working people……


Now the other side:

Petition is filed by Saleem Shaikh, who is 3 time CSS failure… Why after six years of slumber he has filed this petition??? Why he did not lodge petition in 2005 when final result was declared???? Why he did not question the result of written portion, when he also passed along with sons of all affluent people??? He should not have appeared in interview than….. he could have moral standing after such act which he has not today… why has he not made the successful candidates a party in the petition???? Is not it mala-fide that we were kept in dark for a year by SPSC & Mr. Saleem Shaikh..

Answers r invited from Babakhan & Dr. Imtiaz Khushik

What is worth of present SPSC Chairman???? Mr. SN Abbasi… His selection as SPSC Chairman is doubtful… he has no background of CSS/PCS, which is pre-requisite for Chairmanship of SPSC… Why a panel of 3 persons as nominees was not sent to CM, when his Summary for appointment as Chairman SPSC was floated (which is a practice)??? How can he prove his innocence about his corruption scams/jail terms…if NRO beneficiary can head an organization like SPSC, than you can imagine the state of enquiry (and partiality too)

Son of SN Abbasi had failed in CCE-2003, can an enquiry constituted by him be impartial????

Under what rule & provision, was the enquiry conducted by SPSC against successful candidates of CCE-2003????

Answers r invited from Babakhan & Dr. Imtiaz Khushik

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An enquiry commissioned by Chairman SN Abbasi (with no CSS/PCS Background, but with right connections with Presidency, retired Estate Officer with history of terms in jail, a convict on corruption charges, NRO beneficiary) which has members like Mr. Shah Mansoor Alam (he was in jail for 11 years on corruption charges) & Nawaz Leghari (whose son failed to pass CCE-2003) is obviously aimed to defame us who have proven time n again. Shabir Sethar has missed few names. SHABIR'S THREAD IS TESTIMONY OF MISCONCIEVED, FRIVILOUS & FRAUDULENT MEDIA CAMPAIGN ...
everybody seems to have ignored my earlier argument in this regard…

Correct me plz @ Babakhan & Dr. Imtiaz Khushik

Babakhan is found of calling us Jalee n engage in un-necessary mud-slugging, but he has not bothered to reply my questions in this thread……..

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Bro, pl learn to relish that fact many of CCE-2003 qualifiers had cleared CSS in previous year. even in CSS-2003, three successful candidates of CCE-2003 got allocated... many have cleared CSS in last five years.... If Clearing CSS in later stages not at all a testimoney that they have been allocated following the principles of meritocracy than according to ur enlighted wisdom, what should be testimony of our competency....
Babakhan pl share ur intellectual arguments here ……..

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I unfalteringly believe that you feel right fitting in a affluent family
Khushik Sahib, u don’t have to worry about my faimly’s affluence… I know what riches my 18-grade doctor father has amassed….

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but I could not overlook my close friend Imtiaz Ali Soomro from larkana; eldest son in his family belonged to very poor lineage; who was the firm advocate of merit and hard working; appeared in CSS thrice but not made the grade; he appeared in CCE-2003 and passed written examination but not be up to snuff in interview due to bequeathing the nearest and dearest by the blind members and Chairman. He spent his 8 years in this process, including his time, money, and epoch. Now whenever I meet with him seems disheartened and against merit. Would any body compensate against his loss? I request you to confess the reality of things.
Dear not every body who passed written portion of CCE-2003 could have been accommodated against 77 vacancies… He definitely would have secured less marks ….

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DEAR SINDHI FELLOWS

I am keenly observing and reading the views of our honourable members on SPSC subject. I reach a conclusion that both opinions presented by shabir, FS and Khusik are correct in their reality . Many candidates inducted purly on merit and vice versa. many candiadtes later on qualify the CSS by burning midnight oil.

But also we can not deny that fact that many candidates were inducted absoloutly on nepotism and were not fit for service.

i am very impress that shabir has presented the list of those successful candidates of cce 2003 those later on qualify the CSS after passing the SPSC . HE is absolutly right .

however, dear shabir , i have also the list of those candidates who qualify the CSS-2003 exam with flying colours and group allocations but failed to qualify the viva voce conducted by SPSC . the reason is best known to SPSC .

1. Imran shaikh (ITG) 2003
2. Kamran Mughal (Accounts) 2003
3. Late Abdullah Brohi (DMG) 2003
4. Ashar Shazad (FSP) 2003
5. Raja Shah zaman (DMG) 2003
6. Muhammad salem (DMG) 2003
7. Shabir Lund (Postal) 2003

AND many more who cleared the CSS 2002, 2003 EXAM & awared the groups but fail to qualify the cce 2003 . Many CSS Candidates even failed to qualify the written portion of SPSC Exam owing to the policy of meritocracy in SPSC .

Dear shabir many candidates amoung your batch qualify the exam in 2007, 2008, & 2009 and i have no doubt about their integrity . but what about those who qualify the same exam in 2003 but failed to cross the viva voce in CCE-2003.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHICH clearly reflects the merit critaria of SPSC IN 2003 .

i am not casting any doubts of meritORIOUS candidates . but the fact of the matter is that SPSC CONDUCTED THE exam in dubious manner .

I think the matter is in court . Let the justice prevail & i think the genuine successful candiadtes of CCE 2003 must not be bothered about their results . if they are correct then any court of the world can NOT deny their right of service in Government .

May sanity and truth prevail .
@ asimqazi

Salams bro,

I like ur constructive discussion… U raised a good point that many CSS successful candidates also failed in CCE-2003…

Dear the logic is simple……….. Their marks would have been definitely less in CCE-2003.. their performance in few papers of CCE-2003 might not be up to the expectation of the examiner…….. I also failed in CSS-2006 & 2007, but the blame is on me, not on the commission……….. Same logic is applicable on the result of CCE-2003

Raja Shah Zaman was one class junior to me at cadet College Larkana.. one of my hard-working friend also passed written test of CCE-2003, but could not made to successful 77… they did not question our result… they looked on the positives….. n r now serving at good places……………..

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I failed to understand this bit floated mainly by F.S ,Shabir and others that majority of CCE-2003 was on merit but on the other hand SPSC has revealed that examination scripts of almost 47 allocated officers were badly tempered. I asked a clerk inside and he told me that asessors initially have either failed or given low marks to those candidates but later on for the allocation purposes SPSC officials have overwritten marks very carelessly. These forged scripts are made the basis of the claims raised by the committee appointed for detection this crime.
Babakhan when will u understand that enquiry committee is constituted with mala-fide intensions… They can temper with copies of anyone today… I think u’v no brains to understand this simple truth……

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please don't spoil the reputation of our province any more by leaving their illogical comments over here at this forum. This forum is accessible by the people all over the country.
Patriotism is last refugee of a coward… how true abt u Babakhan… Stop bossing us here… u can’t tell us what is good for the reputation of province…

Final note:
It is useless arguing with ignorant fools....they only bring you down to their level! vile scum!!!!
This summaries the attitude of Babakhan & his cronies…

I think, this is last time, I m posting in this thread…. Unless either My questions r answered by up-holders of merit like Babakhan & his cronies… and justify their stand… unlike posting things like ur arguments r childish (HOW ????) Jalee (HAHAHA)

Or some personal comment would result in due retaliation….
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Buddy people are caught red handed by the constituted committee. I liked the piece of historiography narrated in your last thread but it is of no use because evidences are ready to be presented before court. Don't take me wrong and adviseably don't get hyper too soon. We never demanded the exodus of meritorious officers but Jalee(s) among you have to go at any cost. Lets authorities set the precedent and let the meit be prevailed.

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@ Baba Khan and Dr. Khusk Sahib.
If u both donot mind i would like to ask u one simple question....do ur credentials match or commensurate with any of the officers stated above? Mushkil Lag Hai!!!!
As far as the report of the committee is concerned, i have nothing else to say but being a member of the SPSC and head of the fact finding committee one can do anything with copies of any candidate one likes. If i am made Chairman of the committee, i assure u i can throw away as many copies as i like and dub these meritorious candidates as JALEE!!
LAGE THO AAHAAN JO KHUDA WAASTE JO WAER AHAE INNEN SAAN!!!
Why donot both of u raise ur objections over the recent recruitment of Excise Inspectors? I am sure u both have appeared in the above mentioned test.
Someone working in the SPSC told me that Mr. Mirza had taken away copies of G.K Paper of CCE 2008 to his sweet home....Ab uske marzi hai jisko pass kare ya naheen...it is upto him now.
All the members of current SPSC panel are Jiyalas of PPP. Jo KAALA MOU PP walon ne har department ka kiya hai wohe hashar SPSC ka hoga.
I request u guys Please save ur energy and anger for the result of CCE 2008.
If u ask me i can tell you some of the names who would in the final merit list.
Worhty sister of our Worthy President is selling posts of DDO and SO like POTATOS but at slightly higher rates.
These so-called Jaale officers have proved their worth in the CSS Exams and i think that is enough for we people to keep our mouth shut.
I am sorry if i have hurt someone especially PPP Jiyalas.
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I don't know why you guys have fleared up over my stance against those who thrashed the meritocracy. It isn't the issue of comparing my credentials with anybody else but to raise the voice against forces who fiddle around with merit. I oppose tooth and nail any illegal act of current SPSC. Though this forum has quite a narrower span but atleast we can convey our message to healthy minds of the country.

Produced evidences will be evaluated by respectable court and its capacity of thinking, in terms of law and its analysis, is far better than that of mine and Ghotkian. So take a chill pill and relax and see how law paves its own way.

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I already addressed that u think your self having good English and one of the brilliant than others. However, our stance about CCE-2003 is not fabricated , it is the actuality ; uncovered through our echt court and media. Nevertheless , so for no any expression is emerged on behalf of selected candidates through any sort of mechanism. Kyon k chor kee dari men tinka hota he.
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plz do share evidence if u have,without solid proof itz unfair to blame an instituition?looking forward to ure reply containing concrete proofs

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it's time to wrap up now...

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Buddy people are caught red handed by the constituted committee. I liked the piece of historiography narrated in your last thread but it is of no use because evidences are ready to be presented before court. Don't take me wrong and adviseably don't get hyper too soon. We never demanded the exodus of meritorious officers but Jalee(s) among you have to go at any cost. Lets authorities set the precedent and let the meit be prevailed.

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babakhan,

we've a common ground now. as a matter of principle, everyone is against people who use unfair means to get recruitment. f.s. and shabeer do not defend them . the inquiry report has accused a lot many candidates. some of the fellows accused in the report are simply to good to be accused. fawad has already enumerated their achievements to vindicate their competence. thus the report seems to have vilified these fellows. any premature name calling (Jalee) will certainly seem objectionable to these meritorious fellows. they should be respectable for everyone. in one of your posts, you have also stated it clearly that you are not against meritorious candidates . every one of us on this forum stands for MERIT. justice must be done to the meritorious candidates/officers of CCE 2003.

let's wait for the final decision now. silence!

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