so how can the provinical govt. amend the clause regarding appointments ? by provincial assembly or by CM ?
It should be amended bcz recruitment of DSP level through competitive exams is not a bad idea. there is a precedent in shape of DDO (R) etc.

Asslamulaikum,

The announcement of Posts of Inspectors and DSP's is possible, but after the amendments in the Police order 2002.
The order of 2002 banned the entry of INspectors and Dsp's to police department, and left only 3 gates;
1) Constable
2) ASI (P,ASI)
3) ASP
before the Police order 2002 people were heired by the Provincial Govt as DSP's as I know many of the officers who were heired as DSP's.
After 31st december new order named as "POLICE ORDER 2010" will be issued, with effect from that in January or feburuary posts of IP and DSP's will be announced.

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LAHORE, Nov 27: Declaring the Police Order 2002 unacceptable, the Punjab government intends to change it to bring police directly under its control.

“Right now we are working on the new local government system. We will take up the police order afterwards. But surely we are going to change it to bring police directly under the control of the provincial government,” senior officials told Dawn on Saturday.

Under the Police Order 2002, police had managed to wriggle out of the control of the provincial bureaucracy, getting the status of ex-officio secretary for the IGP, and full administrative and financial independence for him.

Officials said right now the decision was to make the Police Order 2002 a provincial law after Dec 31. This would be done on the premise that since law and order was a provincial subject according to the Constitution it was the right of all provinces to legislate laws regulating working of the police department.

They said the then federal government had wrongly promulgated the law and enforced it in provinces.

They said a committee formed under Law Minister Rana Sanaullah to recommend amendments to the Police Order had yet not met.

“No matter what the committee recommends, the law will be changed to bring police under the direct control of the provincial government,” they said.

Regarding the amendments the provincial government intended to make in the police order, they said it would like to see whether separation of the investigation from the operation wing had proved beneficial or not. “The first impression is that it has created more problems than facilitating police and the people as well”, they said.

Officials said the provincial government would also like to do away with the supervision of police by bodies like safety commissions because they had been found ineligible to control the command force.

“Right now nazim is responsible for law and order in a district but we are also going to change it because nazims have never been able to prevail upon police officers. They have rather been brow beaten by the officers in routine as well as important matters,” they said.

They said the provincial government would also like to rid of the National Safety Commission which had powers to recommend appointment of the IGP.

The Police Order had turned the police department a top-heavy institution which the government was going to address. All unnecessary upgradation of posts and the creation of new ones in higher grades would be abolished.

The concentration would be on to create more vacancies in lower grades to give police the much needed workforce.

“We will retain a few good things in the Police Order but can also include good aspects of the abandoned Police Act of 1939,” officials said.
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Well as for as i know the recruitment procedure, the relevant department route its requsition through S&GAD to PPSC.Prior approval from finance department is also required.Seceretary law has nothing to do with this matter.The issue is only refered to/consulted with ministry of law ,if it involve some legal complication.However this is done before sending the requsition through S&GAD.

Coming to the case in point, amendment in Police order 2002 would be required before sending any requsition for recruitment.The matter would proceed in following order

1-Punjab Assembly pass the amendment bill
2-Signautre of governer
3-Approval from PM regrading amendment through provincial law ministry
4-President will refer the matter to Federal Law inistry for it vetting
5-Approval by PM
6-Approval by home department from Finance Ministry
7-Requsition through S&GAD..and then starts the recruitment process

People acquinted with office culture may be well aware of the complexities involved in the whole process.For others i would like to say that if every thing proceeds quite smoothly and Govt of Punjab shows its interest in this matter,then it may take six months to announce the posts.

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Dear sis, Appreciate your effort in making picture more clear.But, I don’t agree wid you on this:


On 31-dec-2009, both local govt. ordinance and police order would be the provincial subject, and respected Provinces will be able to make amendments at their own with simple majority in provincial assemblies.
So, as per my knowledge,There will be.

1) Amendment passed from provincial assembly.
2) Final approval will be with Governor Signatures.

For Recruitment,

Home secretary or IG will send requisition for Inspectors / DSPs to PPSC.So, S&GAD is nothing to have with posts for Inspectors.

Yes, S&GAD is responsible to send requisition for posts under Provincial Management Service.

P.S, Fed govt. has decided to repeal 17th amendment in dec-2009, as it is obvious from statements given by top brass of PPP.

so,posts for inspectors would likely be announced in near future.

Correct me if em wrong.

Regds

There is no such deadline regarding Police department for shifting of authority.Dont confuse with Local Govt oridinance that was provided a legal cover till 31st December.Police Order 2002 is a differnt area though it was promulgated in the wake of Devolution plane.

As for as role of S&GAD is concerned, this department control the services of all provincial employees directly or indirectly.I could not found the requisition form that is sent for filling of vacanicies by the respective departments ,however as for as i know approval from finance and S&GAD is required on this form before iots final submission to PPSC and it is routed through S&GAD.It is also imperative to mention here that no department can decide on its own to higher the people on regular basis because this process involve budgetry allocation for current and future period.

S&GAd coordinates the services of the entire provincial authorities.Even PPSC falls under administrative control of S&GAD

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Great step indeed for unemployed and ambitious aspirants of Police service but for me this is just a politics, they will induct all party based people as Dsps and Inspectors to secure their position, don't you think so? Stay neutral.

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Yes dear and further Police Order, 2010 also ensures stern accountability of Police Officers/officials. Certain clauses have been added in the said Police Order on the special recommendations of IGP Punjab. He was of the view that Competent authorities award different punishments to the Police Officers/Officials, but they most oftenly get benefits from the other forums i.e. Punjab Service Tribunal and Courts easily. So, he has demanded special powers to punish the police officers/officials etc.

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