Career path of PMS officer, ETO and AD Local audit Fin?
 

[SIZE="4"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]Can somebody please share [COLOR="Blue"]the career path, career propsects and powers of PMS officers particularly and ETO and ADs in general.[/COLOR]
Candidates who already have been PMS officers can surely give a clear picture of authority of PMS officers and the maximum job cadre they can reach.
[COLOR="blue"][I]Training period?
Pay package?
Perks and prvlges?
Authority and scope?[/I][/COLOR]

Kindly explain all of these i have least information about PMS officers, have only heard that they are ACs like that of DMG officers but with less charm???[/FONT][/SIZE]

Waiting for Cordial Response

My questions stand intact as it is? Will somebody elaborate my queries in the first post of this thread?[/I][/I][/B][/COLOR][/QUOTE]

well bro congrats on qualifying i have also qualified best of luck to both of us
as far as your querries are concerned let me clarify that all three i.e pms eto and ad are separate cadres having different career paths first of all we will examine pms pms is a prestigous service successor of erstwhile pcs and pss which were merged into one in 2004 now pms officers can be posted both in the field and the punjab secretariat in the field you willl be posted as DDO or AC and in the secretariat you will be posted as SO thereafter you can posted as deputy secrretary or additional secretary or secretary to provincial govt including additional chief secretary and chairman p&d smbr and in the field you can become dco and commissioner as well basically you can be posted on any post in the province theoretically speaking but realistically speaking you need to have political backing to get these important seats which is an unfortunate reality in pakistan as far as eto is concerned you can only serve in one department promotion is quite slow after eto you can become deputy director and than director excise a handful of excise officers were also posted as DG excise and taxation punjab but for that you need to have considerable political clout i know of two excise officers who were posted as secretaries of many departments but they were in the good books of chief ministers as far as powers of pms or excise officers is concerned it depends o the nature of seat you are working on some departments have more public dealing like local govt. so they have more clout and influence where as some have policy planning function such as regulation and P&d so they have less influence in excise deptt. you have interaction with businessmen industrialists and tradrers this is why people think of it as very lucrative deptt as far as ad finance is concerned the highest post you can attain is chief inspector of treasuries promotion is very slow i hope this brief description would help you

you have also written that you have heard that pms officers are posted as ACs with less charm well bro whoever has told you that is quite mistaken DMG is usurper service which has encroached upon the rights of provincial service they have no legal right to serve in the province they attain all these seats on the basis of their allegiance to political parties because they are quite proficient in understanding the illegal and unconstitutional orders of corrupt politicians and then they bend over backwards to carry those orders and that is the only trait which endears them so much to the politicians the matter of their appointments in the provinces is in the supreme court and it is hoped that justice would be done in the near future and by the way all of us have cleared the exam of same or even tougher level than css and will go under same process of psychological test and interview as css qualifiers do so there is need to be apologetic about it they i.e dmg officers boast about themselves as being members of all Pakistan service but in reality if you check the records of all dmg officers with punjab domicile they have either served outside punjab for a few months and and many of them have in their careers not even stepped out of punjab once so that says it all about their character and the type of people they are

Asslaam o Alaikum,

Thanks Orange :bow

Can you give us some link where we can find details information regarding the services of these departments :thinking

brother i will post details of all these departments myself on this forum shortly.

[QUOTE=orangeemperor25;528830]well bro congrats on qualifying i have also qualified best of luck to both of us
as far as your querries are concerned let me clarify that all three i.e pms eto and ad are separate cadres having different career paths first of all we will examine pms pms is a prestigous service successor of erstwhile pcs and pss which were merged into one in 2004 now pms officers can be posted both in the field and the punjab secretariat in the field you willl be posted as DDO or AC and in the secretariat you will be posted as SO thereafter you can posted as deputy secrretary or additional secretary or secretary to provincial govt including additional chief secretary and chairman p&d smbr and in the field you can become dco and commissioner as well basically you can be posted on any post in the province theoretically speaking but realistically speaking you need to have political backing to get these important seats which is an unfortunate reality in pakistan as far as eto is concerned you can only serve in one department promotion is quite slow after eto you can become deputy director and than director excise a handful of excise officers were also posted as DG excise and taxation punjab but for that you need to have considerable political clout i know of two excise officers who were posted as secretaries of many departments but they were in the good books of chief ministers as far as powers of pms or excise officers is concerned it depends o the nature of seat you are working on some departments have more public dealing like local govt. so they have more clout and influence where as some have policy planning function such as regulation and P&d so they have less influence in excise deptt. you have interaction with businessmen industrialists and tradrers this is why people think of it as very lucrative deptt as far as ad finance is concerned the highest post you can attain is chief inspector of treasuries promotion is very slow i hope this brief description would help you

you have also written that you have heard that pms officers are posted as ACs with less charm well bro whoever has told you that is quite mistaken DMG is usurper service which has encroached upon the rights of provincial service they have no legal right to serve in the province they attain all these seats on the basis of their allegiance to political parties because they are quite proficient in understanding the illegal and unconstitutional orders of corrupt politicians and then they bend over backwards to carry those orders and that is the only trait which endears them so much to the politicians the matter of their appointments in the provinces is in the supreme court and it is hoped that justice would be done in the near future and by the way all of us have cleared the exam of same or even tougher level than css and will go under same process of psychological test and interview as css qualifiers do so there is need to be apologetic about it they i.e dmg officers boast about themselves as being members of all Pakistan service but in reality if you check the records of all dmg officers with punjab domicile they have either served outside punjab for a few months and and many of them have in their careers not even stepped out of punjab once so that says it all about their character and the type of people they are[/QUOTE]

Well thanks for clarifying my queries what about salary, perks, promotion and other incentives? Training period and the time which is spent by candidates during it for finally being recommended as AC?

[QUOTE=Shikva;528842]Asslaam o Alaikum,

Thanks Orange :bow

Can you give us some link where we can find details information regarding the services of these departments :thinking[/QUOTE]

I don't think there is any link like that if he could it would be a great thing
[QUOTE=orangeemperor25;528849]brother i will post details of all these departments myself on this forum shortly.[/QUOTE]
Waiting for your details

[QUOTE=rishzzz;529396]Well thanks for clarifying my queries what about salary, perks, promotion and other incentives? Training period and the time which is spent by candidates during it for finally being recommended as AC?



I don't think there is any link like that if he could it would be a great thing

Waiting for your details[/QUOTE]
@ orange emperor

i am waiting for your details sir???

brother just wait for one more day as tomorrow is my second day of psychological i am extremely sorry for the delay hope you understand

[QUOTE=orangeemperor25;532806]brother just wait for one more day as tomorrow is my second day of psychological i am extremely sorry for the delay hope you understand[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="Blue"][B]orange emperor i didn't see you there today?[/B][/COLOR]

[QUOTE=rishzzz;532795]@ orange emperor

i am waiting for your details sir???[/QUOTE]
the salary of all government servants whether recruited through federal or provincial govts is same in all grades the only difference arises when special allowances are earmarked for certain posts like project allowance for project directors of various projects in pervai elahi's tenure like wise a special utility allowance of 30000 is given to all secretaries and commissioners of the province perks are post specific for example in some departments like s&gad which is the controlling authority of all departments there works a transport pool from which cars and drivers to all officers are provided now the people working in that particular department illegally use many of the vehicle themselves another example would be CM secretariat in them because of the pomp and show associated with our politicians there are numerous BMW land cruisers Mercedes and such like cars now an officer working in there even of junior rank like deputy secretary or section officers have more than one cars now it does not matters that which group you belong to similarly they depute a number of lower staff people as drivers guards cooks etc in their homes now we come to housing facility GOR 1 is reserved for grade 20 and above officers GOR 2 which is known as Bahawalpur house is for grade 19 then for grade 18 you have the shadman GOR houses are given purely on the basis of sifarish there is no rule followed if you dont have sifarish forget about a 4*4 quarter leave alone GOR the allowance for petrol gradually increases with your scale but think of it as unlimited then there is free telephone newspaper facility electricity is not free that you will pay yourself now from other incentives i think you mean plots well that too depends on your closeness with the chief minister if you are his blue eyed then you get plots in revenue societies at dirt cheap prices which is a fraction of the market value i forgot to mention medical facility which is totally free for your parents and spouse and children you can also get plots through proper channel if you apply in the various schemes launched by the revenue officials like commissioners DC's tehsildar at installments now come to training of pms officers it is 8 month course consisting 6 months of theoratical training at MPDD which is located behind NIPA on the Mall road 2 months are spent on visits to different offices and field formations of army police rangers in punjab to know about their working 2 weeks are spent on attachments with different departments in the secretariat so as to enable officers with file work technique after this your training comes to a final end after which you wait for your posting orders here again as is the tradition in our beloved country if you have clout you will get posting of your choice and if not then you will be made to rot in far flung area of the province ruing the day you decided to join this service
P.S this posting thing is true in the case of DMG or any other css group your merit no and position in fpoe exam of fpsc are nothing more than a piece of crap and you will only get good postings on the basis of influence

[QUOTE=orangeemperor25;533358]the salary of all government servants whether recruited through federal or provincial govts is same in all grades the only difference arises when special allowances are earmarked for certain posts like project allowance for project directors of various projects in pervai elahi's tenure like wise a special utility allowance of 30000 is given to all secretaries and commissioners of the province perks are post specific for example in some departments like s&gad which is the controlling authority of all departments there works a transport pool from which cars and drivers to all officers are provided now the people working in that particular department illegally use many of the vehicle themselves another example would be CM secretariat in them because of the pomp and show associated with our politicians there are numerous BMW land cruisers Mercedes and such like cars now an officer working in there even of junior rank like deputy secretary or section officers have more than one cars now it does not matters that which group you belong to similarly they depute a number of lower staff people as drivers guards cooks etc in their homes now we come to housing facility GOR 1 is reserved for grade 20 and above officers GOR 2 which is known as Bahawalpur house is for grade 19 then for grade 18 you have the shadman GOR houses are given purely on the basis of sifarish there is no rule followed if you dont have sifarish forget about a 4*4 quarter leave alone GOR the allowance for petrol gradually increases with your scale but think of it as unlimited then there is free telephone newspaper facility electricity is not free that you will pay yourself now from other incentives i think you mean plots well that too depends on your closeness with the chief minister if you are his blue eyed then you get plots in revenue societies at dirt cheap prices which is a fraction of the market value i forgot to mention medical facility which is totally free for your parents and spouse and children you can also get plots through proper channel if you apply in the various schemes launched by the revenue officials like commissioners DC's tehsildar at installments now come to training of pms officers it is 8 month course consisting 6 months of theoratical training at MPDD which is located behind NIPA on the Mall road 2 months are spent on visits to different offices and field formations of army police rangers in punjab to know about their working 2 weeks are spent on attachments with different departments in the secretariat so as to enable officers with file work technique after this your training comes to a final end after which you wait for your posting orders here again as is the tradition in our beloved country if you have clout you will get posting of your choice and if not then you will be made to rot in far flung area of the province ruing the day you decided to join this service
P.S this posting thing is true in the case of DMG or any other css group your merit no and position in fpoe exam of fpsc are nothing more than a piece of crap and you will only get good postings on the basis of influence[/QUOTE]
Outstanding work my dear!!
Now i have a fair idea what exactly a PMS officer is.