...aslamalikum to every one..i some time wonder to read your views about the case of mr.saleem shaikh.against CCE2003...being ill informed is the most dangerous thing because you cannot judge the depth of ocean and its water pressure untill u touch the depth..likewise passing comments in such a childish way is not expected by learned people..i have association with both the fighters of 2003 case nabi bux sathio and saleem shaikh..so let me post you the details of the cases against spsc ..to opn your eyes your are advised to collect the copies of petitions filed against spsc in 2004 n 2008...right from the day one protests were lodged and case was file but as the corrupt hierarchy i.e mr.hassan bhutto and his cronies/accomplices were at the helm of affairs...so how a theif could admit his guilt.so petition filed by nabi bux sathio in 2004 could not get the light of the day so lingered on .secondly,everyone was waiting for the outcome of the petition ,third,the copies/evidences produced in court were of urban candidates..whereas mr.nabi bux sathio is of sindh rural...saleem shaikh continued his struggle since long..he followed step by step approach..wrote to every govt functionary ..finally serving notice to spsc chairman which was finally followed by petition...thats why his petition was admitted in 2008 without it it was not possible ..secondly he has 726 marks in sindh urban and the copies produced in court were of urban candidate.so how can u expect blindness from judges...as far as ppp govt is concerned infact the case would have been decided in his favour ..infact it is interference of the ppp govt that despite deserving candidate his case is not being decided..so ppp govt is his biggest opponent as the failure n fraudulently selected candidates have the strong connections in this setup..thirdly then controllr of examination has been proven guilty in deputy district attorny exams case wherein he has admitted his guilt in judicial inquiry held by mr.faisal arab...so it is foolish to think that ppp govt has managed this inquiry..infact it is the inquiry committee boldness to unearth and expose the reality..the integrity of mr.ibrar mirza is above board as he has been secretary in forest dept..even there he had delt with corrupt persons sterneously...so instead of mud slinging support these candidates..infact these are the efforts of these fellows that you are witnessing atleast some merit in spsc in this PPP era otherwise after 11 years of sitting in opposition in this time of you wouldnt have even think of filling a form in spsc.
just support the cause of sathio n shaikh n bold efforts of inquiry committe..
regards...

Dear plz remember that making "PARAGRAPHS" is not forbidden !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and plz let urself know that it makes reading easy.....

Regards.

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@Asad

Dear we support your arguments and strongly believe that Mr Saleem will be successful in his cause. But contrary to your views Mr. Ibrar Mirza has helped the Anticorruption department with such strong evidences against CCE 2003 that he even succeeded to include the names of those brilliant minds in the list of anti corruption department who later achieved allocation in DMG and PSP. I know Mr. Saleem has lodged the petition for his own allocation but as I said earlier in my posts that these types of enquiries are not examined by courts on individual basis rather it was treated as general and resultantly more than 50 people were recommended by Anticorruption department.

This enquiry has full backing of Chief Minister and PPP as without their backing massive enquiry on such scale by SPSC and Anti Corruption is unthinkable to be conducted. These types of cases though take years and years to be decided but whenever a congenial environment is provided to such cases they take decisive turn in few months as Mr. Ibrar Mirza has made the claims of Saleem Sheikh stronger through providing evidences.

Now the question is why a sword of Damocles should be hanging on the heads of meritorious people as everybody joins Sindh Govt. is not unemployed and people leave their existing jobs for CCE 2003. They MUST be provided following assurances and guarantees by Govt. or other authorities through their conduct.

1. Current setup under the instructions of influential people is spoiling the CCE 2008 as on whose assurance petitioners have paid heavy fee to an expensive lawyer? They should stop this practice of helping existing court petitioners. Furthermore, honest people like Ibrar Mirza in future setups of SPSC should not have any right to open the case of the allocation of CCE 2008 after considerable time as he did in the case of CCE 2003. He has clearly showed the way to future setups of SPSC how to show the efficiency. This practice of defaming each other’s Govt. through exposing different institutions such as SPSC should be stopped.

2. Govt. in future will not empower a 16 scale Anti Corruption inspector to do whatever he wants to do and recommend the names of above scale officers as he did in the case of CCE 2003. How on the earth it is possible for this 16 scale officer to conduct the enquiry and recommend the names without the backing of current Govt.? Enquiry report can found in same thread.

3. Courts should dispose off the case in maximum six months as digging out the matter of CCE 2003 after 7 long years of petitions is unjust. Why should people feel the pressure and fear of exodus from job all the time or re-conduct of interview under the instructions of court which can lower his merit position?

4. These petitions should not be there for longer period of time
The case against CCE 2008 is lodged and will remain there for long until decided in fact according to existing petitioners and their lawyer that they will take it to Supreme Court if not decided in Sindh High Court.

This is to me the extreme of uncertainty and should be removed through the acts of Govt. and institutions so those who prepare for exams of SPSC should have confidence in its credibility.

Dear Baba khan.

i ve been readng u for few months but perhaps it is the first time, i ve found u logical, positive , balanced and fair. in future, hope to find u in same spirit dear.

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@Candidatespsc

Thanks dear. I've always tried my level best to provide this forum credible information gathered through my wide circle of friends. This may be bitter sometimes but I post it as it comes to me.

Dear friends,

Spsc has at last announced Mukhtiarkhar Reslt. Interviews are starting from 10th June,2011. For further info see spsc site.



Regards

aslamalikum friend....n baba khan..

kindly dnt jump to the conclusion before getting the exact details of anything....make your mind clear tht ppp govt r c.m has nothing to do wdthis case..infact this setup is on the forefront to putting this case in back burner...as among fradulently candidates ...many are the near n dear ones of MPAs ,ministersbureaucrates, and judges...this is reason tht despite lapse of 4 months chief secretary has not signed the summary seeking action against these candidates...
second,right from the very beginning ,the result has been challenged,after the announcement of result in 2004 nabi bux sathio filed petition..however..efforts of mr.sathio couldnt bear result as the entire gang of thieves was on the helm of affairs..so how can u expect from a criminal tht he would admit his crime...so case kept lingered on..like rest of the candidates saleem waited for the result of sathio petition and the letters written to higher ups..infact mr.shaikh has followed step by step approach..he wrote to every dignitary/functionary and served notices to spsc which was finally followed by petition.he used same evidences which were used by sathio.however sathio coulldnt get the benift from these evidences as copies produced were of urban candidates whereas sathio has sindh rural domicile..on the contrary,these supported the case of saleem being a urban candidate having such a considerable marks.i think more than 725
thirdly,stop mud slinging on inquiry committee.. infact the committee was impartial in its proceedings thts why despite immense pressure the report was submitted to cs without modification in its contents..infact integrity and credibilty of mr.ibrar mirza is above board ..in his service tenure as a secretary forest dept ...he dealt corrupt people strenuously.... infact he has not spared mr.shaikh..and has requested tht saleem shaikh may be asked tht how has got these evidences...friends if today you are witnessing any semblance of merit in spsc..its the courage of mr. mirza...however ,i second your view of judicial inquiry to ascertain the real result...

lastly, if someone has done a good thing in his later part of life it cannot absolve him/her from crime he/she committed in earlier part of life..so qualify for dmg/psp is another issue...i advise all of you to post the things for which you have complete details,dnt believe in rumors,,support the cause of these to fellows n keep ur fingers crossed....tc..Allah Hafiz

Walaikum Assalam,

Asad we really appreciate the efforts of Mr. Saleem Sheikh towards exposing those elements in our institutions who think that whatever they do is correct and their favors given to sourceful persons will go un seen.

To you Ibrar Mirza may be an honest person but his following acts has made the whole process dubious and made the case against CCE 2008 more stronger.

1) Without relieving from his duties as Controller examination Mr. Shah’s brother was allowed in the exams. Mr. Ibrar has un professionally misguided the reporter of Kawish newspaper by telling that Mr. Shah was not there but contrary Mr. Shah was all the time involved in the distribution of papers to different examiners for checking. The documents with his signature are produced by petitioners in the court. Even final result was announced with his signature. Same kind of evidences was provided to the court regarding CCE 2003 with the change of officials as in 2003 chairman was nominated that he must have been relieved from the duties while his son was attempting the exam. Further more, he has allowed few other officials of SPSC to sit in the said exam without being relived from their main duties in fact one of them was in charge of computer section who had access to all details of marks and names of examiners to whom exam copies are sent. He is still on the same position and as per petitioners a couple of them have been allocated in CCE 2008.

2) How candidates who had pathetic marks in written part has managed to get 248.50/250. Cast serious doubts and this has also made one of the evidences will be produced in the court as case proceeds.

3) In connection to above point that SPSC has given extremely high marks to many candidates to facilitate their allocation the marks sheets are not being issued since the announcement of results. Mr. Mirza was acting like a chairman than why he kept the result hidden from the failed candidates inspite of repetitive letters in newspapers and even after the announcement of SPSC in Jang newspaper itself than why it delayed for more than 4 months. Why he did not want candidates to see their and others marks specially those obtained in interviews.

4) If any report regarding anti corruption is issued with the consent of high ups of the province than who I am to show concern over its credibility. The whole Anti Corruption department is backing this report as it has made purely on the basis of EVIDENCES PROVIDED BY SPSC COMMITTEE to Anti Corruption Department. As I already told the forum in one of my posts earlier that if any setup of SPSC wants to manipulate it can easily turn meritorious candidate into a fraudulently selected one through rupturing his/her papers or doing any other trick to prove him fraud because they have all copies and record in front of them and senior clerks will do all because they are gurus at manipulating things as it is matter of the orders of saab and they will turn a meritorious into a fraud. This thing can't be done in FPSC.

PPP govt. is fully backing those court petitioners against CCE 2008 conveyed to me by a main petitioner in this case and he knows the day to day affairs. As per one of the relatives of Sharjeel Memon (Information Minister) who is also with petitioners in CCE 2008 that Chief Secretary is not signing the summary because Govt. wants courts to take the decision than they would implement it. Courts on the other hand looking at the govt. to implement the recommendations of Anti Corruption report and notify the court. In either of the cases the decision on CCE 2003 is expected in few months either court will intervene or CS will sign the summary seeking action against CCE 2003.


I am not joining CCE 2008 because of these factors and it makes your job very uncertain. Had these evidences against CCE 2008 were not stronger, cases lodged by groups of petitioners were not there in court and not represented by a extremely credible lawyer than many people who are already in jobs would have been given a second thought of joining Sindh Govt. But under such circumstances where nobody knows how these all things will behave in future creates uncertainty. I am the witness of CCE 2003 case as well when petitoners like Sathio and Saleem lodged the cases, allocated people literally laughed at them but how dramatically things changed nobody predicted at that time. Day before yesterday one of the SOs who left his good job to join Sindh Govt. phoned me and had similar kind of feelings about wrongly predicting the future. He said no promotions were given and PPP govt. by helping the petitioners of 2003 though Ibrar Mirza has made their lives hell and destroyed their future.

aslamalikum....friends...n babakhan

dear dnt be disappointed..i agree with your views tht corruption is part n parcel of our system..even you will find report published in daily jang in second week of december 2003 'federall public service commission per aadam aitmaad kiyun" agaianst FPSC regarding scale n extent of corruption n manipultion in css examination..i advise you .must read it ...but despite all these factors never lose heart and hope...we must fight against these things and reward should be expected from Allah Alimghty alone...to share these things ..i just mean to say that we should double our laboriuos efforts..n you will see merit create its own space... i know atleast mr.shaikh..he ran from pillar to post to get a merit based job.....in this struggle he qualified more than 25 exams..but always remain un allocated...but as he continued ..his efforts paid off and he got job offers of 17 grade in different govt depts purely on merit as he donot have any kind of back stairs influence..i think absence of any support was the main reason tht even he was not offered 16 grade job in cce2003... so my friends..passions ,persistence and perspiration make an un defeatable combination for success. irepeat spsc members r ppp govt has nothing to do in manipulation of record in cce 2003 as it was already sealed on the eve of petition filed in 2004..moreover writting of manipulation has been identified as of mr. umer zaur then controller of examination..refer justice faisal arab inquiry in deputy district attorneys case...as well..however i cannot comment about cee2008 as i dnt hv details of it...so if this mega scandal was unearthed and aired in satellite media.. it was not on flimsy grounds r week grounds.. i am not here to support inquiry committee r else..but mr.mirza's past is infront of everyone...anyway for making things more transparent... judicial inquiry is a good option... meritorious candidates must not fear...anyway ..dear just pray for the success of these two fellows n their due right...keep posting your views..tc

The Anti-corruption enquiry report may be correct or manipulated but real point of concern over here is to analyze the role of SPSC in providing evidences to strengthen the enquiry by anticorruption report/ summary waiting in Chief Secretary’s office.

As per my information SPSC committee formulated to unearth the corruption of Hassan Bhutto’s tenure has provided hand made evidences to the anti corruption department.

Now this opens the flood gates for future setups of SPSC to do whatever they want to do to prove that previous SPSC setup under PPP Govt. was fraud and their allocation was also based on fraudulent practices. For doing all that SPSC needs a court petition and request from the court to probe into the matter. In CCE 2008, court petition is already lodged and people are determined to take this case to Supreme Court as well. Now it will just be the matter of a little help required by either current setup of SPSC which they are willing to do or any other Chairman of SPSC in future and this case will again be in the hand of Anti corruption department.

As I already mentioned in my one earlier post that opening the inquiry of the cases after 7 years of its disposal creates extreme level of uncertainty.What is the surety that court will not intervene the cases of CCE 2008 in near future or after 2 to 3 years knowing that CCE 2008 already have a list of evidences about wrong doings? This uncertainty is not regarding any usual thing rather it is about your job and will directly affect the lives of the people.