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Old Monday, May 18, 2009
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Dear friend your post is really thought provoking . I daresay that there is a lot of difference among our perceptions. I am sure that you are going to consider my point of view , same you can expect from me .

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On the contrary i think that the quota system has been adopted to give something to the dissenting voices and cut short the work of hate mongers.As i have already mentioned that the quota system is one of the few concessions that the establishment has given to the federating units. This way we give them a feeling that they have some stakes in the federation. It is here i guess that we see the difference in the vision of an ordinary being like us and statesmen.

The merit should be preserved at any cost no matter how hard it is ,because justice is the basic thing that unites any society in the world , not the compromises . The statesmen are not those who give ‘concessions’ but those who preserve the merit .



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I agree that the standard of education should be raised all over. But till such time the education standards become similar the quota system should stay intact. I can not comprehend the reason that why some people think that Muslim demand for separate electorates ( Pre-Partion ) was right and oppose the provincial quota in Pakistan, as the demand for separate electorate was too a large extent a product of the thought that Muslims were less educated and less developed than the Hindus. ( some people may think i am generalizing a bit too much).



It has passed 62 years and the matter of the uplift of educational standard is compromised with providing quota system! It is a pity. Quota system is an escape route from the responsibilities and equivalent to sweep the real problem of development under the carpet with a smiling face and saying all is well!
The world is divided between the non-Muslims and the Muslims according to the Quarn and the Hadith . The separate electrode was demanded to preserve the identity of the Muslims of sub-continent. The above mentioned analogy does not hold water in this context .

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Secondly, as if the already Provincial ethnicity was not enough, you want the quota system to be applied at Divisional level?.Where do we go from there?After all there are some districts which are less developed than others?so we should start fighting for our rights at District level as well!
This part is quoted without context but it supports my argument. Here the author admits that the quota system has inflamed the ethnicity . Yes, that I why the abolition is necessary. The contradictions of thoughts project the half-baked ideas.


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The quota system that you are talking about here is about the number of Jobs a MNA or a MPA used to get or are still given. I do not see any harm in it.As the jobs are mostly of Grade-1 that is of peons, potters etc and these jobs are given to the common man. what if they vote for A and not B? Aren't they the citizens of Pakistan? Don't they deserve the jobs as well?
They deserve the jobs ,right! But this is a purely executive matter to find the suitable candidates for the jobs, no matter what is the nature of that job . There comes the favoritism and ulterior motive , there is a great harm lies in it when at the gross root level vacancies are distributed on very odd standards. Are these not used as a political weapon ? Does any code of ethics allow such distribution ?



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Telephone Quota was not given to MPA's, it is a federal Subject and was given to MNA's. In those days telecommunications were not so developed as they are now a days.Therefore only a number of connections were issued annually.What if a small fraction was given to the people whom an MNA recommended?After all they were elected by a large majority.
Thanks for telling me that these ‘angels’ were MNAs not MPAs .

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What if a small fraction was given to the people whom an MNA recommended?
Is this justice that an MNA is recommending the distribution of telephone connections. Every body knows that who is going to get the recommendation. Where is the merit ? The merit is a mere recommendation letter from the stakeholders !



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I do not want to continue arguing.
Gentleman running from the arguments is not considered an act of through civilization because arguments can avert destructions . Where there are no arguments : the civilization cease to exist , as nonhuman don’t argue but fight!


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All i want to say that you have all the right to say and think what ever you want to, but please rise above personal level and think in terms of a Pakistani.I hope you will understand it then.
Brother, there are no personal motives behind these thoughts . The demand for broader justice should not be ascribed to the personal interests, and my personal level is the part and parcel of Pakistan , I don’t own dual nationality , do you ?
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