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Originally Posted by oriental
Hello Dear 
First, very shortly, I would say you have all the right to disagree.
Secondly, Cultural and religion and historical experience could not glue MUslaim into a nation at that time.You know better as you claim to have read the history more ,then you should know this fact.The states of Deccan,MAlwa,Gujrat,Bengal,Sind, and many more...were divided although all these were Muslim states.But still they claim to had different Culture,Language and History and they were proud of their own peculiar cultures....They had their heroes.. Example....Khushal khan for Pathans..MAalik amber in Deccan......etc etc......don't go too far just take the exalmple of Bengal.all you know well........... still don't agree...
I am in hurry so I cannot give you a detail reply right now.But only say that we should try to see the history with an impartial and unbiased approach ...and should not accept everything with blind faith....There are many dimensions of things...
Lastly, You may know the history well.But you ca'nt claim to knw it all....bye |
Don't take it personal. We are all students of history. I don't assert to be the perfect in history. But i studied it rationally. Jinnah and Iqbal are my leaders. I accepted their greatness not because i am a Muslim, But because they were right at the time. Any how lets come toward discussion.
I have admitted this before that their were no political unity. But according to their culture, religion and historical experiences they were knitted in the fabric of nationalism. You didn't understand my point. I am here discussing the Pakistan ideology as put forward by Iqbal. The premises he used are my focus. Nation as defined by the western scholars is another type of racialism.
Iqbal's concept of NATION, CULTURE and RELIGION were totally different as we consider them today. I denied the both versions ORTHODOX ISLAMIC and SO CALLED "LIBERAL" WESTERN of this concept. According to Iqbal culture is religious thoughts of Muslims.Reference: (A social analysis of Muslim nation) : Iqbal Address 1912....(The Spirit of Muslim Culture): Reconstruction of religious thoughts in Islam.
Although politically scattered but culturally united that was my point.
2ndly you will also accept this that the Muslim masses of Indo Pak had same historical experiences.All Muslims of the subcontinent have faced same historical facts from the advent of Babur to Britishers.These were the historical experiences that made the political unification of them possible.
You are right their heroes were different. But dear it was because of Monarchs and Sultans. If they could be politically united their heroes will also be same. Languages were also many but 2 major languages were urdu and hindi. Local culture is every where different it was not only in Muslims of Indo Pak. In china more than 600 cultural groups are present but they have one national identity Red China. Same was in Hindustan despite the presence of local culture Punjabi, Sindhi, Balochi, Bengali and pathans they were Muslims.
Why Bengal separated its something different. I have told before that the dream of Iqbal didn't become reality.
Separation of Bengal is very simple to understand.A true Ideology cannot glue the oppressors and oppressed together. Exploitation under the curtain of PAKISTAN IDEOLOGY could never prevent fall of Dhaka. Same game is being played in Baluchistan these days. Its not Pakistan Ideology and it was not the dream of Iqbal.
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