Friday, June 17, 2011
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Originally Posted by SADIA SHAFIQ
what some one suggest for past that india is our enemy may be right but to tell you first Quaid e Azam also considered them(Indians) their friend.And one can recognize the sincerity of other friend in difficult times.Qua-id leader ship have found the way to realize why they are our enemies. This is the long way travel from Lucknow pact to Muslim Dehli proposals.(DEPICTED the real face of Indians). Then he was able to fight for Muslim rights(as realized the enemy and had made a strategy to beat the enemy) and give us this beautiful landscape (Pakistan) but our leaders could not recognize the fact who is our friend /enemy.they blame game is only excuse to conceal their failure.
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M Ali Jinnah Indeed realized that the hindus and the muslims cannot co-exist and partition is important which resulted in Pakistan but after Pakistan was created what did he said about India? That they are our enemies and we should have bad relations with them and we should kill them and bomb hotels in mumbais and support groups working against them or did he advised having friendly relations with neighbors? Situation changes. Pre-partition was another story and post-partition was another story .. Just because someone said something in past (which of course was true for that time) does not mean(s) it will remain truth forever. He did not made a mathematical statement like 2+2=4 which will always remain true, It was true and logical for that time but time has now changed and What do you know what would have he advised If he was with us today? War with india and take them as enemies? If your answer is yes then you seriously don't even know the ABC of M Ali Jinnah and his wisdom 
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1.Sultan noor din zangii and saif uud din zangi ,both are brothers.one brother proved to be treacherous (saif ud din). But sultan noor din tackled him batter.Saif ud din helped Christians and assassins(HASSAN BIN SABAH) to over throw the govt of noor ud din.study the life of Noor ud deen and SALADIN.even their enemies admired them.Sultan SALADIN never considered Christians his enemy and forgave all those Christians who massacred the Muslim population even pregnant women too.he declared AMAAN for them.He did not said that assassins/Christians/ Muslims were the enemy.this shrewd man had the ability to be called a leader.
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I seriously don't know what you are trying to say here but If you are trying to say that forgiving is better than revenge than that depends on the situation. You If forgive "xyz" because of some personal problems and/or personal losses he/she caused you then I will appreciate you and might attribute you with a leadership quality but If you are the leader of people and your people have been killed and/or murdered and/or tortured and you have a chance to take the revenge for them and/or reply the enemy for their wrongs and If you forgive them then this is not really a leadership quality because you cannot decide on behalf of those who were oppressed, you can forgive your personal things but not for others because that will be illogical.
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[2.Now judge the personality of humayuun .humayuun also had fought with bravery with sher shah but could not defeat him.his faulty policy either to conquer first the fort of ghaur or chanur.he moved toward chaunr(BIHAR) despite being advised by his umraaz to move toward Ghaur(BANGLADESH)
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I again don't understand what are you trying to say but ok. Let's move on.
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2. who said that india is not responsible but please consider the factors which has made it in dominant position.you know why govt of Pakistan enforced governor raj in sind because peer bakhs ilahi somroo in 1950z submitted to Indian terms ,in order to gain rule in the state of Hyderabad .so we are real enemies
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The thing to analyze is that If India has harsh feelings towards you then why is that? You should know what we have done to them in past and we could not serve the purpose. If we could take kashmir with force then of course we should not think twice and go for a bang bang and get it just like they took bangladesh from us but If we cannot take it with force because our army is incompetent or whatever the reason might be then we should strive and struggle for other ways around rather than doing things that will even worsen the case and our brothers and sisters in kashmir will suffer even more.
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