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iii). If for 4 long years somebody raised slogans of Parha Likha Punjab, thn why we are forgetting that what were the Education Ministers of other provinces were doing at that time, why they didnt follow the suit raisinig the same slogan, Parha LIkha Sindh or Parha Likha Balochistan!!.. Are'nt they responsible? I doubt that Punjab got some special funds from Federal Government to move on with the Parha Likha Punjab.
I quoted the example in response to a member's post that said Punjab has never raised slogan under it's own name whereas other provinces more often play provincialism. Provincialism or to be more specific, regionalismis the norm of the day. You, I or anyone cannot deny it. We are taught to heed the call of the day and not to run away from it. Like there are national interests on the international stage, there are regional interests of the dwellers of a particular region as well. To give you a hint - the cases of Siraiki & Hazara people may suffice. And btw, being big brother, Punjab already gets lion's share of the state money to satiate its needs!

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iv). Perhaps you have not read the rationale of quota system, as per Article 27 Clause I of the Constitution of Pakistan 1973, worked out/approved by the worthy Z.A Bhutto, the quota system was not be exceeded by twenty years. Study of this Article of Constitution, worthy Z.A. Bhutto himself was not in favour of long standing of quota system perhaps!..
When I showed lack of confidence in the govt.s' capability to deliver in my last post, I had this information in my mind that it has not succeeded in last 3 decades to bring a uniform educational system across the country therefore I turned down the recommendation put forward by Hamza in which he stated that a 10-year time may be given to respective provinces for uplifting educational standards. Regardless of the incursion in the Constitution, it's implementation can only be fruitful when the statement has materialized into a reality.

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3). The quota system is having its roots in pre-partition time and all successive governments of Pakistan upheld the system. The Constitution of Pakistan 1973, as per its Article 27 Clause I (as also referred in para 2 (C-iv)/above), about safeguarding the fundamental rights of the citizens of Pakistan against the discrimination in the federal & provisional government services in these words, has stated,
“No citizen otherwise qualified for appointment in the service of Pakistan shall be discriminated against in respect of any such appointment on the ground only of race, religion, caste, sex, residence or place of birth.”

“Provided that, for a period not exceeding twenty years from the commencing day, posts may be reserved for persons belonging to any class or area to secure their adequate representation in the service of Pakistan.”

This twenty years period was to end in 1993, however, in 1999 the PML-N led government (its pertinent to mention here that the PML N was a Punjab dominated party), passed Sixteenth Amendment Bill and enforced whereby provision of twenty years was extended to twenty further years and now the text of the specific clause in Constitution of Pakistan contain the period of forty years instead of twenty. One should not condemn that Punjab is doing wrong or going to do away with the quota system.
Pardon me for the simplicity but I do count the people of Punjab as representatives of their province. Idea of abolition of quota system is put forward by a resident of Punjab and is duly supported by his peers from the same region. I recognize this as voice of Punjab, though you may differ.

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It is incumbent upon the Government (whosoever is in lead i.e. PPPP, PML N, PML Q etc) to make steps for socio-economic uplift of every area of the country so that level playing field can be given to every person. Nevertheless, in current circumstances and even in foreseeable future, it will never by a prudent step to do away with the quota system, though reforms are direly needed.

To start with, the 10% quota of Armed Forces should be removed and this be included in the open merit quota so that meritorious students should not be left behind. Subsequently, reforms are required to be made so that deserving people should not be barred from entry into service , which is also necessitating by the Constitution of Pakistan.
There's no second thought over Armed Forces quota - it should be plainly nullified. There should be no backdoor for entering into the bureaucracy!

Reforms may be welcomed if they do not further marginalize the alienated people of some provinces. Reforms should be reforms and NOT mere amendments that serve the interests of some at the cost of many.

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mr red max No doubt Z. A bhutto was a wonder ful leader ..read my post completly. us main Z a Bhutto ka nam as a PM from sindh lia hai use ghlat nai kha main ne....Benazir ne kia kra n mR zaradri ne sindh k liye what they are doing..my appraoch ma y bt rational for some people but not rfor all..jo thk baat hia wo main ne kerd ri.
Prha Likha Punjab k time b i was its critist my dear brother but u have dcided k agle bnde ko ghl;at e khna haui to main kuch nai ker sakta.

or rhi baat bat dual standrds ki to main ne TANZ kia tha adopt nai kia kisi bhi cheez ko main is system ka nai is nation ka bht bra critics main se ik hon..main ne apni life k bht saal is QOM k liye is liye berbaad kiye k ye PAKISTANI hain but u kne mjhe aage se kia sunne ko milta rha BTMIZ, SIRPHIRE ye bdlaon ge is sstem ko..to mere bhai main is sytem ko na bdal ska na bdal skon ga n aap main se koi bhi..
ager koi bdle ga to best of luk to him/her.
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