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Originally Posted by floydian View Post
And Pak Army's quota is a separate issue. Our history necessitates such a system. But i hope the civilian government do away with military induction in civil services sooner rather than later.
Brother, our history had necessitated such a system, but our present does not necessarily need it and it is an agreed thing, that the government should do away with the military induction. The genesis of military induction in civilian bureaucracy can little be found from a recently published column,

Military in civil service By Aminullah Chaudry | Columnspk.com | English Newspaper Columns, News, Top Stories, World News, Politics, Middle East

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I quoted the example in response to a member's post that said Punjab has never raised slogan under it's own name whereas other provinces more often play provincialism. Provincialism or to be more specific, egionalism is the norm of the day. You, I or anyone cannot deny it. We are taught to heed the call of the day and not to run away from it. ...............When I showed lack of confidence in the govt.s' capability to deliver in my last post, I had this information in my mind that it has not succeeded in last 3 decades to bring a uniform educational system across the country ...................

Pardon me for the simplicity but I do count the people of Punjab as representatives of their province. Idea of abolition of quota system is put forward by a resident of Punjab and is duly supported by his peers from the same region. I recognize this as voice of Punjab, though you may differ.

Reforms may be welcomed if they do not further marginalize the alienated people of some provinces. Reforms should be reforms and NOT mere amendments that serve the interests of some at the cost of many.
Dear if one or two agrieved people are from Punjab and they are having certain point of view, it does'nt mean that Punjab is bad or Punjab is trying to devour upon other provinces. Probably you have been having an idea that Punjab is getting a lion's share in everything and now trying to eat up the quota system, no this is not the actual thing, I have just tried to dispell this impression that Punjab is bad or Punjabi airs regionalism or racism. .. We should all think like being Pakistanis putting our castes/race aside for the greater national interest. We, being a part of our nation as well as part of civil beaurucracy, should not think that any race is trying to oppress the other race. Problems are everywhere, including in the Punjab. The people of Punjab are not living in heaven when people of other country are in trouble. .. We must shun the concept of regionalism at all cost when a number of enemies are at our doorstep to break us apart...

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No the quota system must go as it has hampered progress. It creates a sense of complacency in the people of other provinces that after qualifying the written they would be definitely allocated. And also the carried over seats must be distributed among the people of all provinces rather than keeping them for future.
This is issue of serious concern that many individuals, even having lot of hardwork and passing all the rounds of css, dont get allocated. This creates a sense of alienation amongst them and the governmnet should do something for their prosperity.

The quota system, in current system, is not required to be disbanded, rather the actual people from backward areas should be given consideration instead of the people, who spent their lives in big cities studying in best educational institutions of big cities and get benefit of quota system to sit in the csp laders.

The actual notion of quota system is varied nature/disparity of educational systems in different parts of the country so that students for far flung areas are given due consideration. But in case eight persons, one each from Multan, Lahore, Sukkur, Quetta, Peshawar, Parachanar, Ghanche and Karachi remained class fellows throughout their educational career i.e. studying in same educational institutions from class first to graduation/post graduation at Quaid-e-Azam University having grooming/nurturing in same environment, thn apparently there needs not to be given consideration under quota system. In this way, the actual/needy individual, who studied in backward school of Mastung, Khairpur, D.I.Khan, Gopis/Yasir, Miranshah or even for matter that at D.G. Khan(Punjab) , will suffer and will not be able to get allocation even though having domicile from FATA, Balochistan or Sindh.

Reforms should be made so that level playing field be given to our brethren hailing from all areas of our beloved homeland Islamic Republic of Pakistan....
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