is discussion ka faida kya hoga? to be honest i am unable to understand, PARDON
some are impressed by hasan nisar- everyone is great except muslims and pakistanis.
rest are by zaid hamid- everyone is great except non-pakistanis and non-muslims.
every nation has good times, and bad as well. more than nation's, it is a responsibility of power-having institutions like: ulema, thinkers, philosophers and so on, and now a days media also. when they will start working without any personal agenda and only for nation and religion, ultimately nation will start thinking critically and will behave as human- that would have brain and would be alive. examples are 1940's c.e. and 610's c.e.