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I got a chance to watch Najam Sethi show at youtube ,,in this show Najam sethi argued on a point that Pakistan initiated all four wars with india and failed to get their aim for which war was initiated ,,
here is the link for video ,,,,,

http://www.youtube.com/v/ybioqLp7EVo


i wanted to know the opinion of all Prestigious members .. is it some sort of conspiracy or misguidance or truth ????

Looking forward to your opinion ,,

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Mr Sethi Says that in 1947 & 1965, Pakistan attempted to create some Insurgency in Jammu Kashmir by sending its under-cover army personnel in the form of Jehadis so that the presuure increases on India for liberating Kashmir. He used word"Provocations" that means "The act of provoking or inciting" on behalf of the Pakistan that Pakistan did so and so and hence executed PROVOCATIONS that led "India to Cross the International Border and Attack Lahore". Now lets stop here

If Pakistan started provocations and stimulated insurgency, then India had all option to take up the matter at UNO and any other International Forum. But what India did, it crossed the International Border, which is a crime as per the International Laws. So Mr Sethi says that Pakistan was responsible for 1965 war as it intiated a insurgency (which has no proof as yet) but he was very cruel in saying that India's act of crossing the border with its all Army invading Paikstan was just a "Response" to the "Insurgency". His gestures seem to be attempting to defend India as he says that Invading Pakistan was a response to the alleged Insurgency. So you can make the decision at your own. Alleged Insurgency (no proof as yet) is a bigger crime or crossing the Border and invading a nation before whole world??????? All the world saw that India crossed the borders and had Pakistni Army not retaliated, Pakistan's Map would have been different today. It is not justified that you give reasons that India attacked Pakistan as a respnse to the Insurgency. Pakistan did not cross the Lines, Pakistan did not attack India but defended its borders.

And he also takes the credit of defending Lahore from all those Shuhadda's who fastened bombs with their chests and exploded the tanks of Indian Army by saying that Indian Army haulted near Lahore with the thoughts that it might be a trap for them by Pakistan Army. The time period when Indian Army haulted near Lahore, Pak Army arrived by the time (otherwise they were sleeping) and defended Pakistan.

Armies never march like this that before invading another country it will hault near a city to see whether the Enemy is sleeping or awaking, should we attack or do rest. For the kind information, Armies move with the prior approvals and complete Intelligence is obtained; how much Enemy Army is employed there, how much time is required to reach the operation area? what kind of weapons by enemy will have to be encountered?. How is it possible that Indian Army haulted near Lahore and gave time to Pak Army to awake and lay under the tanks..........Oh My God.........that is a totally insane and doomed and highly prejudiced on behalf of the Sethi who took all the credit of Shuhadaa of 1965 in a very casual way by saying all this. What happened in Tashqand, is beyond the control of an Army troop. That was the job of leaders if not done properly. Anyhow, Mr Sethi is trying to proove India innocent and blaming Pakistan for everything.


In 1971, both the Anchor and Mr Sethi very easily skipped the role of Mukti Bahni which was operated by India's RAW and caused the civil unrest in Bengal. Here also they put whole responsibility on Pakistan proving India as a peace-loving nation.
For Kargil, Sethi presents India again as a very innocent nation and says that India just wanted to ocuppy siachin glaciers as it was a conflicted area.........wow sethi sahib great.......and takes up back to 1984.......wow.......baaat ati ai 1999 ki to sethi goes to 1984......sawal Gandum Jawab Channa


It may be correct that we never won any war on table but let us compare the nations Army:-

India Army Size 1,129,900 Active personnel 34 Divisions 25 deployed against Pakistan (including all 3 armour and 3 mechanized)
80% Indian Army deployed against Pakistan.
Pakistan Army Size 550,000 active troops 29 Divisions

Indian Air Force Size 127,000 personnel approx. 1,361 aircraft

Pakistan Air Force Size 65,000 full-time personnel (including 3,000 pilots) 10,000 reservists 902 aircrafts

Indian Navy Size 58,350 personnel, 181 aircraft

Pakistan Navy Size 25,000 active personnel, 5,000 reserves

So what are we thinking with these figures that Pak Forces should have clean sweeped the Indian Forces in the 4 wars and should have fixed the Flag of Pakistan in New Dehli in these wars or Mughal Empire should have been created? We are doomed if we think that this is the concept of Wining a war. We should be satisfaied that despite limited resources, our armies did well and defended less in 1971 where Conspiracy theory and lack of leadership led us into that situation. No other nation in South Asia can stare India except us.

Why should we be so desperate and why should we always think negatively, are we trying to forget the sacrifices of brave troops who fought for Pakistan and sacrificed their lives in 1965 by admitting to such one-sided analysis of an analyst (alleged to be clandestinely handled by anti-Pakistan agencies). Wht we want to forget those young men who laid beneath the indian tanks and trying to inject such a foolish, insane, injustifide and totally whimsical and filmsy thinking that Indian Army haulted before reaching lahore as they were surprised to see no one on the borderr........(believe me army never moves so)..............
Ar we a nation? or just a gathering of people with scattered thoughts and passions? what has happend to us? Why have we left feeling the true sense of patriotism on national occasion? why have we become addicted to such programmes who have their own agenda's. Please leave critcising everything and think positive and avoid passimism ........We are not a story of Bombs and terrorism, we are a nation.

I have no personla bias with this programme and anchor and the analyst but being a Paikstani have reservations to this video. This seems biased and sowing the seeds of uncertainity and passimism and diverting the thinking...............No clear logic have been given, if some Defence Analyst llistens to this video he can better reply but this is the joke of the century that in 1965, Indian Armies had a hault near Lahore .....................Tell me if I am wrong....
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