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Originally Posted by Hassan02 View Post
Yes, but the area under their control is quite large and remember that this area is developed, its not like Afghanistan. So at this time they kinda have their own small country. BTW their propoganda machine is much better than other organizations and their online presense is much larger. You yourself pointed out that a large number of Westerners are joining ISIS. This shows that the organization is much more diverse then say the TTP which drew support mainly from the tribal areas.

That said, IS poses no threat to Pakistan right now for the simple reason that Pakistan is too far away. Also, IS will find it hard to establish itself in Afghanistan because of competition from the Afghan Taliban who have a very clear conflict of interest with IS. BTW, at this time we have two people claiming to be Ameer ul Momineen, Baghdadi and Mullah Umar. Three if you count Nawaz Sharif

On a side note, Indians have gone mad. Don't mean to offend anyone, but Indians think that they are now a superpower and everyone is out to get them. Some Indians even thought the Large Hadron Collider would kill them
Yes diversity allows for much more flexibility and of course ISIS is more powerful and dangerous than the Taliban, however diversity can also be a double edged sword. Some of those westerners are paying the roles of double agents. One for example http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/...i-Muslim-Syria . Moreover an outdated ideology and using force of uncivilized violence as predominant means of propagating it will cause this phenomenon to face stiff resistance and perhaps it will die out before it even come out of 'its country' . There is very little probability it can ever become a global phenomenon, however its neighbors certainly need to be alarmed. And certainly something needs to be done about it. But the way global propaganda is making it a monster is not making any sense. Perhaps they are doing it because only if they portray it as a monster will it be recognized as a growing troll .

Yes exactly these were the reasons in my mind as well. It's far away and prospect of competition. However there is also a probability that they 'cooperate from the distance' . Thus the challenge for Pakistan is still the Taliban and local forces, not IS.

Haha I agree with that, poor Indians . Wish they become a superpower, I kind of like Indian civilization

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Haha I agree with that, poor Indians . Wish they become a superpower, I kind of like Indian civilization
Sorry not Indian civilization but kinda like Indian culture . On a side note, many of the things we don't like in our own culture are perhaps influenced by Indian civilization. For example Pakistanis are worshipping Islam but not surrendering before Allah which is the true message of Islam . And dealing with this new phenomenon of western liberalism coming to us as western civilization has proven it's dominance in today's world, again I see Pakistanis worshipping it .
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