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Adnan Hussain brohi Tuesday, November 09, 2010 02:03 AM

Dear and Respected Seniors,

As i have completed my graduation in 2005, afterthat i got job in private sector and worked for three years, But now i have resigned from the job and working as Govt. Servant.

I have forgotten all my acdemics. My english is not so good and i am interested to prepare myself for CSS.

I am working out of my home station so there are no any friends of mine to guide.

Dear Seniors your cooperation and guidlines are needed that how should i improve my english, what should i study first, i mean which subject or what should i do? i don't understand i am confused..

Your response and cooperation is needed in this regard.

redmax Tuesday, November 09, 2010 02:03 AM

Senior's guidance is needed
 
[QUOTE=Adnan Hussain brohi;236107]Dear and Respected Seniors,

As i have completed my graduation in 2005, afterthat i got job in private sector and worked for three years, But now i have resigned from the job and working as Govt. Servant.

I have forgotten all my acdemics. My english is not so good and i am interested to prepare myself for CSS.

I am working out of my home station so there are no any friends of mine to guide.

Dear Seniors your cooperation and guidlines are needed that how should i improve my english, what should i study first, i mean which subject or what should i do? i don't understand i am confused..

Your response and cooperation is needed in this regard.[/QUOTE]

Brohi sahab, what's your age and qualification? And when do you intend to appear in CSS ? All this information would help all seniors to guide you accordingly.

Raz Tuesday, November 09, 2010 02:25 AM

[QUOTE=Adnan Hussain brohi;236107]Dear and Respected Seniors,

As i have completed my graduation in 2005, afterthat i got job in private sector and worked for three years, But now i have resigned from the job and working as Govt. Servant.

I have forgotten all my acdemics. My english is not so good and i am interested to prepare myself for CSS.

I am working out of my home station so there are no any friends of mine to guide.

Dear Seniors your cooperation and guidlines are needed that how should i improve my english, what should i study first, i mean which subject or what should i do? i don't understand i am confused..

Your response and cooperation is needed in this regard.[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] Your expression in English is ok. You need not worry about communication skills. Start paper specific preparation. Get start from English Précis and Composition paper, then English Essay, Pakistan Affairs, EDS, Islamiat, finally your optional papers and end with Current Affairs + English Essay again.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Pick up the syllabus of each paper along with relevant past papers and follow the route which is given by these past papers and syllabus. Keep on revising your concepts after every fortnight or in maximum three weeks. Remember a gape of more than month weakens your concepts so it is better to retain what you have then to gain new things and get going your previously learnt concepts. Work out your schedule in way that you keep on progressing with all what you have and gain more to add into it.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]You have three danger zones /Pul Sirats/bottlenecks to cross:[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]1. [B]Toughest filter[/B]: First Day of your exam ([B][COLOR=teal]English in its totality[/COLOR][/B]: Composition + Essay)[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]2. Relatively lesser hard: Aggregate of GK 120 ([B][COLOR=teal]Troika:[/COLOR][/B] PA+CA+EDS). You have better margin in EDS to boost aggregate score of GK as well as overall score. Normally; PA and CA do not favour as expected.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]3. [COLOR=teal][B]Aggregate Score 600. [/B][/COLOR]This score is a collective and cumulative effort. Each paper contributes in this target. Some of your best optional subjects along with EDS and Islamiat can help you in the achievement of this target.[/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Point to ponder: Islamiat can prove to be the best scoring paper and sometimes it turns to be the toughest paper. Prepare this paper very well by referring moderate books and making the most of media. [/FONT][/COLOR]
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[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Regards[/FONT][/COLOR]

mtariqafridi@yahoo.com Tuesday, November 09, 2010 10:20 AM

Dear Adnan,
Follow the guidlines pointed by Raz blindly.I wanna add one thing regarding English,go on reading newspapers like Dawn,The News etc.You will be benefited in different areas especially in CA,PA.The very important pro will be to increase English vocabulary which guarantee,to lead to success atleast in Eng,Ess Papers.

rizvan Tuesday, November 09, 2010 04:23 PM

before everything pls check whether u hve crossed 28 or u r still eligible

Adnan Hussain brohi Wednesday, November 10, 2010 01:46 AM

I am 24 yrs and two months old (DOB 14-08-1986), i intend to appear in 2013, Just need your compliments, Best regards or haan coopertion also.

Thanks,

mtariqafridi@yahoo.com Wednesday, November 10, 2010 05:13 PM

@Adnan!!!!!! Yesh you can appear in,But i suggest, u should appear in 2011 as well,so that you may have a bit idea for full preparation in coming exams.By the way you have three chances to appear in Css exams,so why not to utilize atleast one for an idea,However you will not be able to apply after 2014 as per 28years policy without any age relaxation.
You can also calculate ur age through this Link::))


[url]http://www.css.com.pk/age_calculator_testing.html?DOB=8141986[/url]

Adnan Hussain brohi Thursday, November 11, 2010 01:15 AM

[QUOTE=mtariqafridi@yahoo.com;236562]@Adnan!!!!!! Yesh you can appear in,But i suggest, u should appear in 2011 as well,so that you may have a bit idea for full preparation in coming exams.By the way you have three chances to appear in Css exams,so why not to utilize atleast one for an idea,However you will not be able to apply after 2014 as per 28years policy without any age relaxation.
You can also calculate ur age through this Link::))


[url]http://www.css.com.pk/age_calculator_testing.html?DOB=8141986[/url][/QUOTE]
Great Sir,

I am a Government Servant, I think I should have age relaxation of two years till 30. Is it So???

mtariqafridi@yahoo.com Thursday, November 11, 2010 07:42 PM

@Adnan!! Please follow the link below,i hope u will find the answers of vital questions in ur mind regarding Age,Qualification,General conditons etc.

[url]http://www.cssforum.com.pk/css-rules.php#1[/url]

MUHAMMAD IJAZ GILL Thursday, November 11, 2010 11:45 PM

[QUOTE=mtariqafridi@yahoo.com;236562]@Adnan!!!!!! Yesh you can appear in,But i suggest, u should appear in 2011 as well,so that you may have a bit idea for full preparation in coming exams.By the way you have three chances to appear in Css exams,so why not to utilize atleast one for an idea,However you will not be able to apply after 2014 as per 28years policy without any age relaxation.
You can also calculate ur age through this Link::))


[url]http://www.css.com.pk/age_calculator_testing.html?DOB=8141986[/url][/QUOTE]

Derar mtariqafridi
I m not agree (wid sorry) that u prosepose that somebody appear in first attempt for an idea about css papers, Always appear in exam wid full prepration. Dont waste attempt in testing.


Dear Adnan
if ur govt service is 2 years then u have age relaxtation til 30 years of ur age. u should appear in 2012 if u have good prepration . Dont waste ur attempt in try. Attempt of css for a candidate is a great blessing of GOD dont waste it in try

mtariqafridi@yahoo.com Saturday, November 13, 2010 09:46 AM

Dear Muhammad Ijaz Gill.!!!
Thanks for reforms.I was not suppose to appear in exam for the sake of wasting a chance,but wat i mean was to;if someone has "css prep" less than 100% accordingly.i.e.70-80% he should also be appeared.I experienced aspirants; emotional to appear,but they have leave it because of less prep and never dare to appear,due to the failure or wasting the chance.Now some of them are over age while others faced social problems which provide them no room to accomodate for CSS.
However;most of the students qualify CSS on second or third chance because they already have a framework for study prep,how to attempt paper blah blah.

I m really very much impressed from;

"Attempt of css for a candidate is a great blessing of GOD dont waste it in try".

Once again thanks to U sir,and pleas correct me, if mistaken....

MUHAMMAD IJAZ GILL Saturday, November 13, 2010 08:25 PM

brother
usuggest mr adnan to appear in2011 just for an idea. he is gvt servent and has no problem of age. then he should appear in 2012 or 2013 as he feel easy. inn css 100% accuracy can not bachieved.70 to 80% prepration means u r very near to alocation. many of my friends got alocation wid 50 to55% prepration but they performed wel in papers. their moral was very high. they use their tips in prepration and attemping papers.

u cote the example of ur friends. it is hidden fear which prevent them to appear.
hidden fear is the greatest enemy of success in css.
always keep ur moral high.

mtariqafridi@yahoo.com Saturday, November 13, 2010 11:39 PM

@Ijaz.....

Is it compulsory for FPSC to conduct CSS exams every year or they can postpond it for 2 or 3 years.:wait

MUHAMMAD IJAZ GILL Sunday, November 14, 2010 01:32 AM

[QUOTE=mtariqafridi@yahoo.com;237630]@Ijaz.....

Is it compulsory for FPSC to conduct CSS exams every year or they can postpond it for 2 or 3 years.:wait[/QUOTE]

Dear
i dont have idea is it compulsory or not for fpsc to conduct css exam every year . If u see old papers from 1971, css exam held every year.

salehafatima Sunday, November 14, 2010 11:02 AM

M. ijaz Gill.
 
last time i appeared in 2009 n got 119 in GK. But aggregate was 615. i got dishearted n due to some personal engagements left css. now again i got zeal n zest to appear in 2011. Being senior n city fellow whats your suggestion? it can b managed in 3 months?

MUHAMMAD IJAZ GILL Sunday, November 14, 2010 02:56 PM

[QUOTE=salehafatima;237691]last time i appeared in 2009 n got 119 in GK. But aggregate was 615. i got dishearted n due to some personal engagements left css. now again i got zeal n zest to appear in 2011. Being senior n city fellow whats your suggestion? it can b managed in 3 months?[/QUOTE]

@Ssaleha

3 months r more than sufficent. u can easily increase score from 615 to 700. in 2008 i could not alocate.my score was 611 and now in css 2009, my score is 700. in 2008 my interview was on 22 jan. i started my prepration after interview for written 2009. css 2008 final result came on 12 march and nex paper were to start on 14 march. i was very disappointed for not being alocated because of low score in written.
luckily 2009 papers were delayed til 25 march. i got 40 days to manage my study. u have aprox. 90 days and can easily manage ur study.
u mention ur personal problems dat r creating hinderence in ur study.
if i mention my issues which i was facing in those days then u realy feel that ur issues r of miner nature. in family some members are not happy for joining civil service. they feel jealous. being a city fellow ,u r welcom for help and guidence. dont think about personal issues, only concenterate on ur study.
whether u hav chances til 2012 or 2013.


keep ur moral high. remmov ur hidden fear . u should go wid courage . Inshallah u wil got ur alocation. always thing positively.

salehafatima Monday, November 15, 2010 11:42 AM

thanks a lot for your motivation. i have only one chance as i wasted my 1st chance in try, in 2nd could not. i can appear in 2012 but i can't wait. inshallah i'll appear in 2011, plz do pray for me n tell me your optional subjects n their score?

Here r my subjects n their marks,
essay.49
english.43
GK.119
[Ev.sc.36,
current aff.43
,pak aff.40]
isl.65
indopak history.123
[A.73,
B.50]
Sociology.66
journalism.48
international relation.45
public add.57
plz comment?

plz suggest me books n reading strategies according to ur experience?

MUHAMMAD IJAZ GILL Monday, November 15, 2010 06:45 PM

@saleha

my option al subjects and score


Essay 40
Composition 45
EDS 56
C.A 51
P.A 40
Islamiat 74


Agriculture 70
Forestery 66
Botany
A: 61
B 62 :123
Indo-Pak History
A 67
B 68 :135
Total : 700

Interview: 181
Grand total : 881

@ Saleha

Ur score in compulsory is better except EDS. in compulsory u should improve EDS.

In ur optional, 2 subjects r very dangerous. I mean very low scoring all time:

IR
Public Ad.

Now journalism should also include in this category.
Indo-Pak History is average subject, sometomes low scoring sometimes high scoring. In 2008 low scoring, in 2009 high scoring and again in 2010 very low scoring. So it can not be trusted on indo-pak history .
ur only trusted subject is sociology which can give u better score.

Subject selection play a very important role in alocation. Now this is not the time to think about it if u want to appear in 2011.

If u think about my suggestion to appear in 2012. Then subject selection can b analyised. As ur combination is not scoring.

If u want to appear in 2011 wid this combination then i wil suggest u some stratigies.
First u decide whether u wil appear in 2011 or 2012.
But i recomend u to appear in 2012 with change subjects.

salehafatima Monday, November 15, 2010 10:35 PM

i was determined to appear in 2011 exam. but your suggestion of appearing in 2012 confused me. as i have only one chance.
what was your educational background? as u opted agriculture n forestry.
can u plz give me ur id so i may ask any question relating to css?

MUHAMMAD IJAZ GILL Monday, November 15, 2010 11:04 PM

[QUOTE=salehafatima;238045]i was determined to appear in 2011 exam. but your suggestion of appearing in 2012 confused me. as i have only one chance.
what was your educational background? as u opted agriculture n forestry.
can u plz give me ur id so i may ask any question relating to css?[/QUOTE]

@Saleha

I understand ur determination to appear in 2011. But ur subject combination, in my view, is not favourable for high scoring. This is the main reason due to which i suggest u to appear with change subjects in 2012. If u have scoring combination then no issue to appear in 2011.

I m Agri Gradugate from university of agriculture faisalabad.

My ID [email]ijaz321@ymail.com[/email]

salehafatima Monday, November 15, 2010 11:31 PM

thanks for id.
i have complited my masters in english lit, now started in english language.
Didn't opted english lit. being low scoring.
which combination should i opt according to ur experience n knowledge?

MUHAMMAD IJAZ GILL Monday, November 15, 2010 11:42 PM

@Saleha

Dont opt english liture. It is also low scoring. I mention some subjects which in my view r scoring:

Persian, Psyscology, Punjabi, Agriculture,Forestry,Geography,Islamic History(low scoring in2010),

u mention some subjects in which u r interested

salehafatima Monday, November 15, 2010 11:57 PM

i had opted iR N public add as i had interest in those subjects.
1st i'l see the syllabus ov these subjects which u mentioned.
being punjabi i can opt it but one ov my teacher in univ. failed in css due to punjabi.
if u provide me ur notes in forestry n recomend books i'll ponder on.

salehafatima Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:00 AM

100 marks subjects should b opted more or 200 marks subjects? coment in detail?

Abdul Rahim Chaudhry Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:03 AM

[QUOTE=salehafatima;238066]thanks for id.
i have complited my masters in english lit, now started in english language.
Didn't opted english lit. being low scoring.
which combination should i opt according to ur experience n knowledge?[/QUOTE]
hmmm....u shud opt journalism, punjabi, muslim personal law...there sub r scoring...indo pak wil be scoring this year so shud go wid it too rather pub ad...!!

Abdul Rahim Chaudhry Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:06 AM

[QUOTE=salehafatima;238072]100 marks subjects should b opted more or 200 marks subjects? coment in detail?[/QUOTE]
well it depends ...bt 100 marks sub is more scoring....although 200 marks like geography , pol science (scoring in 2010)...Amercian history is also scroring...

salehafatima Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:10 AM

geography can b opted without having any previous background ov it

Abdul Rahim Chaudhry Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:18 AM

[QUOTE=salehafatima;238076]geography can b opted without having any previous background ov it[/QUOTE]
i dont thnk so...geography can only be opted if one has full command...coz geography helps u in darwing maps which is helpful in current affairs n pak affairs aswell....3 months r not sufficient to get prepare ....i will suggest u to go with indo pak coz it was low scoring in 2010 and it well rise again in 2011 like pol science ..coz pol sc in 2009 was lowscring but in 2010 candidates got more than 60%...

salehafatima Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:27 AM

Abdul Rahim what r ur coments on my other optional, sociology public ad , journalism, ir

Abdul Rahim Chaudhry Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:37 AM

[QUOTE=salehafatima;238080]Abdul Rahim what r ur coments on my other optional, sociology public ad , journalism, ir[/QUOTE]
hmm...Sociology is gud sub fr u....as u scored 66 marks u shud go wid dis....pub ad aswell.....IR ko replace karo muslim personal law se...ya fir punjabi se....journalism is also scroring coz MCQs boosts ur makrs ....!!

salehafatima Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:52 AM

but i dont have any idea of muslim personal law? nt having any background ov law?

MUHAMMAD IJAZ GILL Tuesday, November 16, 2010 09:27 AM

[QUOTE=salehafatima;238071]i had opted iR N public add as i had interest in those subjects.
1st i'l see the syllabus ov these subjects which u mentioned.
being punjabi i can opt it but one ov my teacher in univ. failed in css due to punjabi.
if u provide me ur notes in forestry n recomend books i'll ponder on.[/QUOTE]

@Saleha

U had interest in IR and Public Ad. but these r al time low scoring. Ur interest does not matter, only higher scoring matter, U should see css syllabus and study syllabus thoroly. First u should select subjects by following formula

High scoring subjects + ur interest + Guidence of various members


Then i wil suggest u tips and techniques to manage ur study. CSS is only ur planning that how u wil manage ur study, how u wil attempt papers.


Dont confuse ur ideas, only manage ur ideas and apply these ideas on study. U have ideas in ur damag but u r not trying to use them. Remov ur hidden fear wat wil happen. Only go t win ur goal

MUHAMMAD IJAZ GILL Tuesday, November 16, 2010 09:41 AM

[QUOTE=salehafatima;238072]100 marks subjects should b opted more or 200 marks subjects? coment in detail?[/QUOTE]

@Saleha

Its no issue whether u opt more 100 subjects or 200 subjects. But these should be scoring. It matters

MUHAMMAD IJAZ GILL Tuesday, November 16, 2010 09:47 AM

[QUOTE=salehafatima;238087]but i dont have any idea of muslim personal law? nt having any background ov law?[/QUOTE]

@ Saleha

U dont opt any law subject. It wil not favourable for u in my view

salehafatima Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:36 AM

@Ijaz
plz tell me high scoring subjects then i'll select amongst them; according to my aptitude n strength

MUHAMMAD IJAZ GILL Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:54 AM

persian, psychology agriculture, forestry, sociology, us history, islamic history, punjabi

salehafatima Tuesday, November 16, 2010 11:59 AM

thanks. we can select only one paper 4rm history, as i have indopak history so should i replace it?

salehafatima Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:03 PM

@ Ijaz
 
along indopak history200, sociology100 tell me other 300 subjects which make it high scoring n best combination

MUHAMMAD IJAZ GILL Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:05 PM

its ok indo-pak history.

whether u appear n 2011 or 2012

salehafatima Tuesday, November 16, 2010 12:08 PM

If i just replace one subject amongst IR, public add n journalism with a scoring subject along my other combination will it b gud n scoring as i have to appear in 2011.


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