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Ammar9 Saturday, April 11, 2015 10:59 AM

IT 24x7 support job and css
 
Aoa to all.
Kindly guide me to quit job or not for css preparation.
I am currently doing a job as a trainee in IT support for major telcos. Timing is 9-5:30.
But if there is any critical support activity related to data centre we have to go there irrespective of time. Daily travelling is 2:30- 3:00 hours as office is almost 45Km away from my home in Blue area Islamabad.They are paying me 20k during 3 months training period .After training it will be at max 30k and after confirmation i will also going to do late night support activities.
I applied for css 2015 but skipped that attempt because i had started a job and also preparation of some subject was not good .If my preparation was good then i would have left the job.
I knew i will also not get leaves in Feb 2016 because my manager does not like govt sector. My Financial condition is not good that is reason for doing this job. I am giving tutions to o level,A level &Fsc since june 2013 and still continuing with one tution after job because 20k is not enough as monthly traveling charges are 4500 .I can again expand my tution network if i would have time. I can manage 25-30K from Tutions.
So in short very very less time for study during week days. Kindly guide me as situation is very complex and i dont want to skip css 2016.

Ammar9 Sunday, April 12, 2015 08:26 AM

Seniors please help and give your expert opinion. I am in need if urgent help.

anam9999 Tuesday, April 14, 2015 09:44 AM

though I am a junior but i think you should go for tuitions+css....

Cool Mind Tuesday, April 14, 2015 11:20 AM

[QUOTE=anam9999;819678]though I am a junior but i think you should go for tuitions+css....[/QUOTE]


Are u css aspirant


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Ammar9 Tuesday, April 14, 2015 11:52 AM

Thanks. and i am also thinking on that option.

Cool Mind Tuesday, April 14, 2015 12:06 PM

[QUOTE=Ammar9;819172]Aoa to all.

Kindly guide me to quit job or not for css preparation.

I am currently doing a job as a trainee in IT support for major telcos. Timing is 9-5:30.

But if there is any critical support activity related to data centre we have to go there irrespective of time. Daily travelling is 2:30- 3:00 hours as office is almost 45Km away from my home in Blue area Islamabad.They are paying me 20k during 3 months training period .After training it will be at max 30k and after confirmation i will also going to do late night support activities.

I applied for css 2015 but skipped that attempt because i had started a job and also preparation of some subject was not good .If my preparation was good then i would have left the job.

I knew i will also not get leaves in Feb 2016 because my manager does not like govt sector. My Financial condition is not good that is reason for doing this job. I am giving tutions to o level,A level &Fsc since june 2013 and still continuing with one tution after job because 20k is not enough as monthly traveling charges are 4500 .I can again expand my tution network if i would have time. I can manage 25-30K from Tutions.

So in short very very less time for study during week days. Kindly guide me as situation is very complex and i dont want to skip css 2016.[/QUOTE]


If you can earn 25- 30 k then say goodbye to your job and start preparation.you would be able to manage your time at your ease because all schedule wil depend on you.stay blessed


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Abuturab Tuesday, April 14, 2015 03:29 PM

If you are really serious about CSS, then I think you must quit your job qnd focus on tuition and CSS preparation since:
1)25k-30k Pay instead of 20k and 30k afterwards is a middle ground, given that job security issue is same for any private job, as in private tuition.

2)Being a tutor myself, this job gives you a lot of flexibility in timings and that is what will be mostly required by you for CSS preparation. Secondly, try to get tuition in nearby areas, thus saving even more time from travelling.

3)Tuition will also help you in revising and revisiting concepts of General Science, Pak Studies etc(if you provide tuition in those subjects)which will be an added bonus for CSS preparation.

4)In my personal experience, if you are lucky enough to land good and nearby tuition, then you may even get 2 to 3 days a week totally free by wisely scheduling your timings and this further reinforces the second point ie; flexibility of job timings.

So if and only if you are really interested and highly motivated for CSS preparation then go for the tuition option and take a break from private jobs for sometime, else, landing a private job is also not easy nowadays so it all depends on your motivation.

I, though, have just listed the benefits of the "Tutor Option" assuming that you are highly motivated for CSS Exams.

Best of Luck :)

Ammar9 Tuesday, April 14, 2015 06:02 PM

[QUOTE=Abuturab;819770]If you are really serious about CSS, then I think you must quit your job qnd focus on tuition and CSS preparation since:
1)25k-30k Pay instead of 20k and 30k afterwards is a middle ground, given that job security issue is same for any private job, as in private tuition.

2)Being a tutor myself, this job gives you a lot of flexibility in timings and that is what will be mostly required by you for CSS preparation. Secondly, try to get tuition in nearby areas, thus saving even more time from travelling.

3)Tuition will also help you in revising and revisiting concepts of General Science, Pak Studies etc(if you provide tuition in those subjects)which will be an added bonus for CSS preparation.

4)In my personal experience, if you are lucky enough to land good and nearby tuition, then you may even get 2 to 3 days a week totally free by wisely scheduling your timings and this further reinforces the second point ie; flexibility of job timings.

So if and only if you are really interested and highly motivated for CSS preparation then go for the tuition option and take a break from private jobs for sometime, else, landing a private job is also not easy nowadays so it all depends on your motivation.

I, though, have just listed the benefits of the "Tutor Option" assuming that you are highly motivated for CSS Exams.

Best of Luck :)[/QUOTE]
Your assumption is right. I am very motivated. But some relatives are suggesting me to continue preparation while doing job. But i think you will agree with me that preparation with IT job is not possible.

Ammar9 Tuesday, April 14, 2015 06:05 PM

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[QUOTE=Abuturab;819770]If you are really serious about CSS, then I think you must quit your job qnd focus on tuition and CSS preparation since:
1)25k-30k Pay instead of 20k and 30k afterwards is a middle ground, given that job security issue is same for any private job, as in private tuition.

2)Being a tutor myself, this job gives you a lot of flexibility in timings and that is what will be mostly required by you for CSS preparation. Secondly, try to get tuition in nearby areas, thus saving even more time from travelling.

3)Tuition will also help you in revising and revisiting concepts of General Science, Pak Studies etc(if you provide tuition in those subjects)which will be an added bonus for CSS preparation.

4)In my personal experience, if you are lucky enough to land good and nearby tuition, then you may even get 2 to 3 days a week totally free by wisely scheduling your timings and this further reinforces the second point ie; flexibility of job timings.

So if and only if you are really interested and highly motivated for CSS preparation then go for the tuition option and take a break from private jobs for sometime, else, landing a private job is also not easy nowadays so it all depends on your motivation.

I, though, have just listed the benefits of the "Tutor Option" assuming that you are highly motivated for CSS Exams.

Best of Luck :)[/QUOTE]
Your assumption is right. I am very motivated. But some relatives are suggesting me to continue preparation while doing job. But i think you will agree with me that preparation with IT job is not possible.

Ammar9 Wednesday, April 15, 2015 12:19 AM

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Thanks anam, cool mind and abu turab for giving time. Aap logon ne meri kaafi help ki hai otherwise koi reply nai kr rha tha. So main conclusion ye nikaloon k mjhe ye job chor deni chahiey .ok done. Lakin main ye soch rha hoon k for safe side uet taxila mein part time MS mein admission le loon. Fees bhi kafi kam hai (29000 first semster and 19000 second) and uni bhi paas hi hai. Aagy admission ho ga ya nai ye to baad ki baat hai lakin ye plan kaisa hai. Aap logon ka aur ksi bhi experienced bandy ka sincere opinion chahiey. I think k MS private sector ki IT job jitna demanding and tough nai hota. 2 din classes hoon gi.

Abuturab Wednesday, April 15, 2015 04:57 AM

Well Ammar doinng MS is a good option but don't you think MS in the morning and tuition in the evenings still lands you in the same scenario as that of your private job in terms of time consumption?(I doubt the "do din classes hon gi")

Since doing MS from a prestigious university like UET is itself demanding as the credit hours and courses, assignments, exams and finally thesis may land you many sleepless nights dear while you ought to be burning the midnight oil for CSS preparation!

There is one advantage though, the MS Courses may aid you in the Optional Subjects' Preparation, but how many subjects will they aid will depend on your choice of optional subjects.

But still before you even buy the admission form, just consult a UET MS Graduate of the same course to get an insight of the workload in the two year tenure.

Ammar9 Wednesday, April 15, 2015 06:10 AM

Well your point is valid but let me clarify few things UET taxila has MS classes in evening after 3:30 or 4:00.and classes are on 2 days and maximum 3 days. I am a graduate from uettaxila and my friends are doing MS from UET Taxila. I am not 100% sure about the workload but i will suely discuss it with MS students.

Ammar9 Wednesday, April 15, 2015 06:51 AM

I don't think that MS courses will help in optional preparation but the subjects i am teaching to my students are very helpful for me as i am teaching A levels physics and physics is my optional. .
I only teach maximum 4 hours and that gives me good income. I have plan in mind that i will give extra time to my students on Saturday & sunday and 2 days chutti in weekdays..
But brother this is only plan because i will definitely consult MS fellows and secondly if there response is good for methen i have to qualify test and interview (ab mjhe awaein to nai rakh lien gey .process se to guzarna ho ga)..

anam9999 Wednesday, April 15, 2015 09:49 AM

[QUOTE=Cool Mind;819691]Are u css aspirant


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yes

anam9999 Wednesday, April 15, 2015 09:57 AM

[QUOTE=Ammar9;819902]Thanks anam, cool mind and abu turab for giving time. Aap logon ne meri kaafi help ki hai otherwise koi reply nai kr rha tha. So main conclusion ye nikaloon k mjhe ye job chor deni chahiey .ok done. Lakin main ye soch rha hoon k for safe side uet taxila mein part time MS mein admission le loon. Fees bhi kafi kam hai (29000 first semster and 19000 second) and uni bhi paas hi hai. Aagy admission ho ga ya nai ye to baad ki baat hai lakin ye plan kaisa hai. Aap logon ka aur ksi bhi experienced bandy ka sincere opinion chahiey. I think k MS private sector ki IT job jitna demanding and tough nai hota. 2 din classes hoon gi.[/QUOTE]
i think css is the best option rather doing MS.... it would be time consuming.... God forbid ager ap apna aik chance miss bhi kerty ho to apko itni knowledge to mil e jaye gi k kici bhi government job k liye easily apply ker sako.....

aneelbachwani Wednesday, April 15, 2015 09:58 AM

I had been going through from the same dilemma, all were same, even financial problem.

I graduated in Nov. 2014 as Computer Engineering student. later, I got job in PTCL as Technical Support Engineer, but at the same time I hadn't forgotten my long-standing CSS dream. Thus I resigned for job in last month. Now, I have started preparation for 2016 attempt.

Ammar9 Wednesday, April 15, 2015 10:06 AM

aneelbachwani . i like your spirit. But what about your financial problems. Have you got any alternative source of income.,?

Ammar9 Wednesday, April 15, 2015 10:19 AM

I talked to my friend who is doing MS. He said k koi issue nai hota. MS easily manageable hai .aap 1 ya 2 courses opt kr lo. Workload kaafi kam ho jaey ga. Us ne 3 opt kiey huey hain....
I think k MS main admission leny se ye faida ho ga k banda apni field se dor nai ho ga. I mean to say that k kafi log ye kahty hain k job chorni nai chahiey kyn k agr aapka css clear na hoo to phr aap ka experience bhi kuch khaas nai hota and job milna difficult hai. Dusri taraf, agar banda MS kr rha ho to logon ko bta sakta hai k kya kr raha hai aur sath sath banda 1 degree gain kr le gaa. Wo wali baat to nai rahy gi k g aap ne css k liey apny years zaaya(waste) kr diey.

Abuturab Wednesday, April 15, 2015 04:52 PM

Well, the only concern was the work load and if, after discussion with your batch mates, you are convinced that you will get around 5 hours every day for CSS preparation, then I am positive that you should surely go for the MS option as you rightly said that your year will not go to waste in case, god-forbid, you are unable to clear CSS in the first attempt.

Add to it Anam's suggestion that even if you fail, your experience of CSS can help you in other exams of government service but I will humbly disagree with Anam that you solely concentrate on CSS since if the workload is manageable with MS and tuition(ie; you still get 5 hours atleast, daily for CSS prep) then I find no reason in you discontinuing your education.

zarraar Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:51 AM

2 kashtio ka sawar dobta ha......keep it in mind.

Ammar9 Thursday, April 16, 2015 10:55 AM

@zarrar .so whats your opinion.

anam9999 Friday, April 17, 2015 06:18 PM

[QUOTE=zarraar;820151]2 kashtio ka sawar dobta ha......keep it in mind.[/QUOTE]
no doubt

zarraar Saturday, April 18, 2015 11:56 PM

You should choose one thing css or MS.

Naeem Zahid Friday, June 26, 2015 03:55 PM

[QUOTE=Ammar9;819902]Thanks anam, cool mind and abu turab for giving time. Aap logon ne meri kaafi help ki hai otherwise koi reply nai kr rha tha. So main conclusion ye nikaloon k mjhe ye job chor deni chahiey .ok done. Lakin main ye soch rha hoon k for safe side uet taxila mein part time MS mein admission le loon. Fees bhi kafi kam hai (29000 first semster and 19000 second) and uni bhi paas hi hai. Aagy admission ho ga ya nai ye to baad ki baat hai lakin ye plan kaisa hai. Aap logon ka aur ksi bhi experienced bandy ka sincere opinion chahiey. I think k MS private sector ki IT job jitna demanding and tough nai hota. 2 din classes hoon gi.[/QUOTE]
Well brother, I don't think that's a good idea of part time MS because
i.) CSS is the test of nerves and your nerves will not be aligned as long as you have a safe side. Kashtiaan jala k chalo tb e age barho ge.
ii.) Now lets have a look at your weekly spare time for study of CSS if you go for MS also;
42 hours of sleep (06 hours daily) + 17.5 hours of eating (2.5 hours daily) + 21 hours of prayer (03 hours daily) + 14 hours of Lecture twice a week ( 04 hours lecture time + 3 hours on the road daily) + 08 hours for assignments and quizzes etc + 21 hours of tuition (03 hours daily) + 10 hours for Misc. domestic works = 133.5 hours weekly
Now 168-133.5=34.5 --->> 34.5/7=4.9~5 hours daily available for Preparation of CSS.
I am from UET Taxila and these are the timings in ideal situations. Besides for each mid exam comprising of a WEEK and finals comprising of 10-12 DAYS, you'll be way behind your planned schedule.
iii.) So in my opinion, ditch the second thoughts of MS and concentrate of CSS along with a home tuition.


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