Is it essential to join CSS Academy?
 

Assalam-u-Alaikum to all
i want to know that whether is it essential for a candidate to join CSS academy?
Seniors plz tell what a man can get from academies that he cant get in self preparation?
Because in newspapers academies are claiming to have best positions in previous exams or claiming to have more than 50% pass rate.
what will be futue of the self-studied person???

Well dear a study on self-basis is a good one, but an academy has a uniform syllabus, discussion with experienced teachers, educational environment, group study etc. But one of my teacher asked me to [B]not[/B] disclose, especially in one's interview that one prepared/studied from an academy.

[B]Good luck....![/B]

Thanks for your reply.
in your post it is impossible for me to have a answer to my question, because firstly you admitted to have a student self study, than you said
[QUOTE]but an academy has a uniform syllabus, discussion with experienced teachers, educational environment, group study etc.[/QUOTE]

what a new one choose or what is better for one for his future please?

@ Chauhdary
 

Well....Dear aspirant...it is advisable that you MUST join a academy,coz by doing so you can have an overview of the paper pattern,study materials,what should a student do and what should not during exam BUT during academy classes time is wasted a lot...so the pattern should to JOIN academy in ONE year and ATTEMPT must be taken in the coming year by self study..ofcourse if TIME is not short for you...Generally speaking academy does help but this is You who will make the difference by your self study in the end..Finishing touch will be given by your self study.

I hope you got the point

[B]@ Chaudray12[/B]

[B]Choudry Sabb[/B] it is crystal clear that I said that it is good one but one should join an academy and latter on, I told you the benefits of joining of an academy. Then I told you experience of one of my teacher who advised me that one should not disclose that one studied through an academy.

[B]Uniform Syllabus[/B] means that The Tutors at academy has made a syllabus for students which won't bother them (students) by thinking that [B]'what to study and what to not?'[/B]

[B]Discussion[/B] with experienced (who has experience in teaching to CSS Aspirants) teachers. Discussion means sharing knowledge, which ain't just share but divides itself.

[B]Educational Environment[/B] means that every one in academy would be intended to study so there would be an environment.

[B]Group Study[/B] is closer to discussion.

[QUOTE]what a new one choose or what is better for one for his future please?[/QUOTE]

One should join an academy, in my opinion. But I don't mean to say that after joining, one should feel ease and should not study on self basis.

Thanks for asking

What else???:))

I must say to stay away from the academies and rather study on your own. most of the Academies lie when they tell you that x number of their students passed in the exam. sometimes two or three academies have the same names on their lists. the thing is if a person goes to them for even one day then they put it on their list. as one FPSC invigilator remarked to me while looking at a leaflet from an academy in lahore," they have put all of the passed candidates on their list".
i'd rather advise you to study on your own.

Forget about the future of the self-studied person and concentrate on your studies brother.If you can find any CSP who has qualified recently and he is willing to help you in person then no need to join any academy.In other case option is still wide open.

Adieu.

@ Mahmood
Yes, i agree that most of the academies just lie in their ads that x number of students passed written from their academies, i saw two academy ads in news paper and both of academies are claiming to have 65% passed students are from their academy. but it is impossible bcoz 65% + 65% = 130% (Totaly lie)
i also joined css guru academy in Rawalpindi & didnt get anything from there but to waste time and lose fee.
may ALLAH keep us away from these type of academies that are only in need of money.

academies are useless .. the max u can get from them are notes , which r often not much better than the books avalible in the market .. stay away from them..they just waste time ...
they r useful only for those who have ample time (more than 1 year) at their disposal , and find it difficult to develop a routine on their own

[QUOTE=Bilal Salim]academies are useless .. the max u can get from them are notes , which r often not much better than the books avalible in the market .. stay away from them..they just waste time ...
they r useful only for those who have ample time (more than 1 year) at their disposal , and find it difficult to develop a routine on their own[/QUOTE]

The best academy which is free of cost:

[url]www.cssforum.com.pk[/url]

joining Academies are just wasting of money
 

Hello

I am JUNAID from LAHORE.

i once Joined Renowned Academy of LAHORE, who claim themselves to be Superior in this field. " OFFICER's ACADEMY".

I found it very redeculus and time wasting place,

Espacially SIR HAMMAD, who have no any concern with any student and with the efforts and hard working of the students, he just know when and how to grab the money from the students in the form of FEE and NOTES CHARGRES.

i tell you a true reality,
when my freind purchased notes of IR from BOOK SHOP of ACADEMY, it costed him more then 600 for just 1 topic,,, when i photocopied it from some other place, it costed me only RS /. 300.

The notes are not so clearly visible. Most of the notes are made by the students, not by teachers there.


The other reallity :

There are lots of students in that academy , due to which you are unable to focus and concentrate on lectures, because of the conjusted place, lack of proper seating arrangements,

The 3rd Reality :

There are no proper arrangements of Conducting Weekly , Monthly TESTS etc. Students complelety have to relay on themselves over there and unable to digest the lectures delieverd by the teachers.

So,

folks i suggest you to not join any academy , just try to get the basic tips and tactics from the teachers ,

Academies are just a source of wasting people's money and time.

i joined that academy for more then 5 months and at the end i gained nothing from that academy,,,

so just have strong faith on ALLAH and start preparation by yourself and libraries are the best source to grab knowledge rather then academies becasue you will find lot of people to interact over there and share your views etc.

No doubt about it . I have found no better academy than this forum.
One more advice more newbies : try to avoid local authors , if u have time for detailed study. Foreign books are usually much better and interesting to read.

Academies for what?
 

Hello everybody,

I ever discouraged to join the academy. One must study his own. No need to join the academy and i beleive that a self studying person may get more score than academies.

What academy can help us is:
1. Notes
2. Study environment
3. Group discussions

When compaed to self study:

1. Academy notes confine you to a limited area of study. You own the prepared notes in hand and you naturally exist within the limits of that syllabous. While self studying person have a wide choice he does more than any syllabous. But he must have the out line with him.
2. Everything is based on your ambition, so you can create a study environment by your own than any of the academy. Just tune up you your mind with exciting ambition.
3. Group discussions are very much imortant. So self studying person must have a company of scholars or professionals as much as he can.
4. Internet is the best library than any notes or study material of academy.
5. Online forum is the ever best paltform for group discussion than any of the academy that exist in the jurisdiction of Pakistan.
6. Keep motivated , never confine yourself to single point and let your spirit alive.

i agree with both of you...........
 

@ Bilal

@Zash

i agree with both of you...........

gud.........

keep it up

@ zash

i also prefer all that stuff which you have been discussed in your post.

Dear Junaid contact me, please
 

Dears,

I also agree to all of you that any student's self study is more fruitful than notes of any academies- looting and decievin students.

Here , I request to Mr. Junaid to please contact me because i m going to appear in CSS exams that would held in 2010 and i m getting confuse to select the optional subjects. I also a resident of Iqbal Twon, Ravi block . I will be thankful for your right guidence.

Thanking in this regard
Dawood Ali

Don't Join - Have Faith
 

I think academies are necessary for the persons lacking in dedication and self-motivation.

I would like to present some informations regarding Officers Academy.

Yesterday, on 3rd May, 2009, I attended a seminar on CSS here at Ramada Hotel, Multan, organized by the "reknowned" "OFFICERS ACADEMY". Mr. Hammad (Principal of the academy) was there and was calling himself as SP (Superitendant Police) HAMMAD. But when he was asked about where he is currently posted, he looked a bit confused, a replied that this a long dicsussion and not-discussable here. But upon insisting, he told that he had some court problems during service and now the matter is clear and he is expected to join anywhere around Lahore.

Now the question arises, why a government service official runs such an Academy.

The answer in my opinion is that probably he has been suspended/removed from service due to a curruption case (Afterall, Allah knows better!!!). And now he has made this kind of academy to make money (Remember that he is an Electrical Engineer also and can earn a lot through fair means by making good use of that qualification).

So my dear members!!!

Please have faith in Allah and your abilities. Be self-determined.

1. Choose the optional subjects that best suits to your interest.

2. Buy the books recommended by FPSC

3. Join some good library

4. Thouroughly go through good dialies of the country like Dawn, The Nation, The News, Express, Jang etc.

Regularly visit;

washingtonpost.com
nytimes.com
reuters.com

5. Look for the CSS aspirants around you (preferabley in the library you have joined) and regulary discuss hot issues with them.

Have faith in Allah and study whole-heartedly.

If you follow this schedule, then, in my opinion no need to join an academy to waste precious time and money

@ Dawood Ali

i live in Badar block in A.I.T,,,,,,

tell me, where and when you want to meet or contact me ?


@ Arslan Shoukat

Arslan !!!!!!!!

when i was in Officer's Academy in last year's sept session....... most of the students in his class asked him about his current service and posting as a ASP and he clearly told every 1 that he is no more a CSP officer and this shows that person's ill and sick mentality that how he deviating and misguiding people and public regarding his CSP's status and position.............That person is not a CSP officer , i am dead sure about it...... so budies and folks prefer libraries over academies,,,,,,,,

i tell you that preparation of css is not a big deal,,,,,,,,
you jus require to study only 5 to 6 hours on the daily basis and at the end of the day, you wil be standing on the top of the sky.......

i was bit confuse about the css exams and heared lots of negative stuff regarding the css exams etc that appearing and clearing css exams are only about the matter of money and references and contacts......

But folks, i tell you honestly that it is the only direct path and gateway to explore your abilities and potential in right directions, CSS is the only best thing in which the individual's abilities are judge by the right people. So that's why now i prefer the preparation and planning attempt of CSS exams 2010 over the job because why i sell my self , my talent, my potential abilities so cheaply to other people in term of getting job of 15 to 20 thousand Rs /- in which i only get a small amount and nothing else.

What about English Literature?
 

Hello Junaid,
I just checked your profile. I am also MBA (Fin.) and MA in English. So why you didnt choose English lieterature in optional. You combine is surprising.

@ Zash

i haven't checked the Css's syllabus of Eng lit,,,,,,,,,, when i will check then i will decide about it..........

what is a strange combination of subjects i have ? tell me

I suggest to all the CSS aspirants that whatever you want to do regarding CSS, then go ahead. Don't ask questions from anybody about to join a academy, selecting of optional subjects etc. Different people have different ideas, so they will make you confussed. Therefore, I suggest you that meet only Senior CSP officers. They can guide you perfectely.

only computer science
 

business administration, Gournalism and International Relations are okay but i would like to review Computer Scinces and Indo-Pak History. Further you are at better point to assess yourelf than me.

[QUOTE=Junaid Ilyas]@ Zash

i haven't checked the Css's syllabus of Eng lit,,,,,,,,,, when i will check then i will decide about it..........

what is a strange combination of subjects i have ? tell me[/QUOTE]

Dont waste money and time ......
 

[B]Dear fellows,

Basically any competitive exam is designed for those who are hard workers but not financially sound to go for extra ordinary education like, high class institutes of the country or aboard. Academies can show you a line, but it is not sure that it would be stream line. Therefore all the CSP officers I seen, are the hardest workers, hard work gave them potential to prove themselves in the respected society.

But here I want to mention that every honest and hard worker person of this society is a CSP officer in his respected field. We are having very few academies in our country, and very few of them having such relevant lecturers in their staff who passed the CSS or any other competitive exam.

And those whom don’t have any access to these cities, what about them? Or they may quit studies because they don’t have access and resources.

Dear this forum is one of the institute which is providing the direct help, thousand of books, comprehensive notes on all kinds of topics. People are connected with this plat form for long time and having great inspirational method of study.

So just sure your self to committed study.

May all mighty (Allah) help us. [/B]

thanx alot u all people... i was very mush worried about the very question...

but now... please help me if i can give tests anywhere in lahore??? because i know my pereparation procedure and its very essential for me...

waiting for your kind replies...

i am also interested to having written tests
 

@ SHIRZAH86

Hi buddy !


i am also interested in the written tests,,, if you find some body who could take your test, then kindly let me know as well about it,, i also want to take tests.....

if any body is having or taking test, i am also interested, then kindly let me know as well,,,,

Asslam-o-alaikum junaid...
i'll definitely let you know as soon as i get any info...
i have another option if you like it...
why can we not give tests to each other??? i mean my test is checked by you and yours by me...
tell me about your opinion...

i agree with you
 

@ SHIRAZ85

yes brother,,,

i agree with you,,,,,,,,,, sure, why not,,,,,,,,,

Through that option, we will be able to analyze our mistakes and about the preparation, that how much hardwork we require ,,,, well brother,,,, i have a crystal clear target... that is to clear CSS EXAMS 2010 in my 1st attempt,,,,,,,, let see, what happen....

i am ready,,,,, tel me how is it possible ? make sure if you are interested,then do it fast because i don't have much time left,,,,,, because i got admission in GERMAN UNIVERSITY in M.S International Business and have to join the session in August there, so i just have 3 months, my plan is to complete the course of all subjects within that period,,, if you are willing, it will be helpful to you as well.....

Secondly ,, i have a suggestion about the one to one discussion, it also help us to clearify the concepts and help us to grab more and more knowledge........ what do you think ?

[QUOTE=Junaid Ilyas]@ SHIRAZ85

yes brother,,,

i agree with you,,,,,,,,,, sure, why not,,,,,,,,,

Through that option, we will be able to analyze our mistakes and about the preparation, that how much hardwork we require ,,,, well brother,,,, i have a crystal clear target... that is to clear CSS EXAMS 2010 in my 1st attempt,,,,,,,, let see, what happen....

i am ready,,,,, tel me how is it possible ? make sure if you are interested,then do it fast because i don't have much time left,,,,,, because i got admission in GERMAN UNIVERSITY in M.S International Business and have to join the session in August there, so i just have 3 months, my plan is to complete the course of all subjects within that period,,, if you are willing, it will be helpful to you as well.....

Secondly ,, i have a suggestion about the one to one discussion, it also help us to clearify the concepts and help us to grab more and more knowledge........ what do you think ?[/QUOTE]
thank you for your kind reply junaid...
but i am a sister not brother :)
well... i have the same target to clear my exam in first attempt inshALLAH... but the schedule u told me, is not suitable for me... i am doing my bachelors of architecture and design and it will end in August... and i also have an intention of giving MA political Science exams in june... so the full and final preparation will start in august...
tell me if the thing suits you... then options are countless...
we'll arrange time accordingly for tests and discussions...

@ SHIRAZ86


you tell me, what time is suitable for you ? is it possible to manage time 2 or 3 hours on daily basis from onwards... so that we will start proceedings.....

@ junaid

hmm sir... i told you that my exams are gonna held.. my first paper of western political thought is on 8th june... can you wait a little?

i know the preparation should be started now... bus its very difficult for me...

hope you'll understand...

SHIRAZA...

@ Shirazah 86

ok

i will be waiting for you, when ever you feel relax and comfortable then let me know about the serious preparation...........



any body is interested in combined studies or one to one discussion for the CSS PREPARATION ?

Best academy
 

Yes I do agree, the best academy rather institute is CSS forum, where you can find experienced icons as well as wondering aspirants, from both you can get a lot, if you are wise enough. I thank all for their value contributions. :bow

@ Sabah

:roll :roll i agree with you,.,,, cssforum is a complete academy and i don't think that we need assistance from any other academies ! :ninja: :ninja:

do comment...plz!
 

A.A hey every1 there...am a new member ov ths prestigious and wondrous forum tht makes people learn al they desire...i am a css aspirant...and a one who got through last years exam without any proper or adequate preparation...9 were the subjcts in which i didn evn hav any prep. at al...but to my good fortune...my decision ov taking sch an experienc went beyond my percepts...as i got 48%...and marks in islamiat were 64...the paper for which i ...had no time to open even a singular book...!....wat i believe is tht academies are good but jus for ur....introspection....get urself tested in the grand tests conducted by thm...but...dnt rely on thm in total!....b a steadfast and daring venturing soul...and explore ech horizon that ur sight visionalizes.....!!!....isnt it.....all members do comment plz!

Anyone from Islamabad/Rwp area interested in group study and exchange of ideas....once or twice a week as schedule allows. Please contact me.

Well. Yet I havn't appeared in CSS exams but I tend to share my openion and experience as well. First of all, there are few things that ensures success in CSS exams that are: -
1. Reading.....one must have reading habit and reading power. Be careful and don't mixup reading with retaining. This isn't complusion of retaining for all the reading.
2. Willpower....One must have attitude of strong decisions. One that is decided must be followed exactly.
3. Planned Appraoch....to cover the course and fullfil the requirments of examiner, planned approach is necessary.
4. (this should be 1st one)....Trust in GOD and Trust in yourself

Can i join u for preparation?

I am a law student at LSE, London's most prestigious university and I am planning to appear for CSS after my LLB. I think this forum is brilliant and it has made me confident in my decision to appear for this exam without joining any academy.

Here is also a same question to join academy. I am government servant and I hardly have 7 hours to get prepared for such competitive exams after work. I have been prefering self study since I was in secondary and above classes but now I can't decide that which thing should I include for the exams and which should be excluded. I think, I should join academy in order to know the pattern of study. All senior experienced readers are requested to advice for the best pls.


Rizwan Ul Hassan
SUPARCO

What is the criterion of position or ranking in css exams for the candidates who appear in exams?

[QUOTE=tahirauf;100778]Well....Dear aspirant...it is advisable that you MUST join a academy,coz by doing so you can have an overview of the paper pattern,study materials,what should a student do and what should not during exam BUT during academy classes time is wasted a lot...so the pattern should to JOIN academy in ONE year and ATTEMPT must be taken in the coming year by self study..ofcourse if TIME is not short for you...Generally speaking academy does help but this is You who will make the difference by your self study in the end..Finishing touch will be given by your self study.

I hope you got the point[/QUOTE]
Thanks alot but kindly tell me that which academy i should join because i am a beginner..