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sarfaraz shami Friday, June 01, 2012 11:28 AM

40th CTP
 
when 40th CTP will start :angle In fact I have a bond & have to give resignation notice of 3 months. Please help

soloflyer Friday, June 01, 2012 11:52 AM

[QUOTE=sarfaraz shami;436146]In fact I have a bond & have to give resignation notice of 3 months. Please help[/QUOTE]

last time it started in november. so safe estimate would be october/november. if you have to give notice , as soon as you get your allocated seat and you give your acceptance to establishment division then you can give the notice. that way you will also have some spare time before the beginning of CTP

sarfaraz shami Friday, June 01, 2012 11:58 AM

What pay is expected during CTP

soloflyer Friday, June 01, 2012 12:02 PM

[QUOTE=sarfaraz shami;436157]What pay is expected during CTP[/QUOTE]

yar its basic pay of 17 scale and some allowances.now if the scales are revised in this budget ..then new bps-17 pay will be 32000. if the scales are not revised then i think , the pay during CTP will be 20 to 25K.
rest the people of 39th ctp can tell better

soloflyer Friday, June 01, 2012 12:14 PM

once CTP completes , then the pay increases and do you have any information when the seats of 2011 will be announced?

sarfaraz shami Friday, June 01, 2012 12:17 PM

[QUOTE=soloflyer;436167]once CTP completes , then the pay increases and do you have any information when the seats of 2011 will be announced?[/QUOTE]
Seats are 217+carried over seats( Total 270). So for Punjab there are 109 seats

ASPZIA Friday, June 01, 2012 06:39 PM

sarfarz bro presently in 39 ctp we are getting around 22,500 after deductions (16000 basic and some allowances add to it ) after the 20% budget increase you can add around 4k to it

mhkhan Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:11 AM

OMG Salary is too little if it is 25K. i am getting about 60K at present.

@ASPZIA or any sernior

Can we appear in CE-2013 while we are on CTP? please comment

NASR KHAN Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:21 AM

[QUOTE=mhkhan;436431]OMG Salary is too little if it is 25K. i am getting about 60K at present.

@ASPZIA or any sernior

Can we appear in CE-2013 while we are on CTP? please comment[/QUOTE]
All of us earning more than what they would be offering but its not the matter of money only. Be motivated and happy. :)
Good luck

floydian Saturday, June 02, 2012 11:42 AM

[QUOTE=mhkhan;436431]

@ASPZIA or any sernior

Can we appear in CE-2013 while we are on CTP? please comment[/QUOTE]

No, as per the policy you cannot appear in CSS during your CTP..however one is allowed to appear in the psycho and interview.

Regards.

mhkhan Sunday, June 03, 2012 07:34 AM

[QUOTE=NASR KHAN;436433]All of us earning more than what they would be offering but its not the matter of money only. Be motivated and happy. :)
Good luck[/QUOTE]

agreed nasr. money cannot be compared with prestige.

@ Flodian.

Thanks for your guidance. Please advise if there is any way out as i want to avail 2013 otherwise i will be wasting my second chance? as this time i am not likely to get any of my first three preferences. i might fall on fourth preference. Seniors please guide.

Dr. Farhan Sunday, June 03, 2012 07:38 AM

[QUOTE=mhkhan;436748]agreed nasr. money cannot be compared with prestige. but no one has replied my question. can we appear in CE-2013 while on CTP? Seniors please comment.[/QUOTE]
No , you cannot appear in 2013 CE, if you are completing your 40th CTP

mhkhan Sunday, June 03, 2012 07:48 AM

@ Dr Farhan

Thank you for your guidance. Is there any way out for appearing in 2013. 2013 and 2014 are my two last chances.

Is there any way out that i might not waste my chance and hold the group i am given this year?

floydian Sunday, June 03, 2012 11:54 AM

[QUOTE=mhkhan;436750]Is there any way out for appearing in 2013. 2013 and 2014 are my two last chances.

Is there any way out that i might not waste my chance and hold the group i am given this year?[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately there is no way out and policy is likely to remain the same. At max you can avail 6 leaves and the grant of leave depends on additional director of your academic group in CSA. Therefore, the only option is to defer your CTP and appear in the exam with full preparation. Otherwise complete your CTP first and then appear in 2014 during STP.

RANA AZEEM Sunday, June 03, 2012 08:49 PM

[QUOTE=mhkhan;436750]@ Dr Farhan

Thank you for your guidance. Is there any way out for appearing in 2013. 2013 and 2014 are my two last chances.

Is there any way out that i might not waste my chance and hold the group i am given this year?[/QUOTE]


I am in the same trouble as that of mhkhan.Appearing not in 2013 attempt as per the policy in CSA,i would waste my 2nd chance without utilizing it.Therefore,the only way out,i see, is to adopt a legal course in this regard and file my case in court against this violation of the basic right of candidates of utilizing three attempts under the prescribed age limit since such a liberty of taking written exams during CTP was permitted till 37th CTP.In my opinion,such bans can be contested in the courts on the pretext of discrimination against the candidates.i wonder what on earth has compelled the CSA administration to snatch this right of candidates!!!!:vangry

i look forward to valuable suggestions of seniors whether this endeavour would bear fruit or go futile.

Dr. Farhan Monday, June 04, 2012 07:37 AM

its a good move but who knows when court will decide about the case ?

junaidd Monday, June 04, 2012 12:15 PM

[QUOTE=floydian;436789]Unfortunately there is no way out and policy is likely to remain the same. [B]At max you can avail 6 leaves and the grant of leave [/B]depends on additional director of your academic group in CSA. Therefore, the only option is to defer your CTP and appear in the exam with full preparation. Otherwise complete your CTP first and then appear in 2014 during STP.[/QUOTE]

That's barely sufficient for a serious attempt...

Hmm.. I dunno, I might have to defer joining this year. How does one defer joining?


@Hydrangea, done!

RANA AZEEM Monday, June 04, 2012 03:16 PM

[QUOTE=Dr. Farhan;437168]its a good move but who knows when court will decide about the case ?[/QUOTE]

Ofcourse,the court has to decide the matter before the commencement of the exams otherwise the respondant i.e FPSC would not be able to conduct the exams before the court's decision.

SIR your futher comments on this post are being awaited anxiously.

junaidd Tuesday, June 05, 2012 01:33 PM

[QUOTE=floydian;436441]No, as per the policy you cannot appear in CSS during your CTP..however one is allowed to appear in the psycho and interview.

Regards.[/QUOTE]

How is this ban enforced? If a candidate sends his/her forms in December and then takes a week off to take the exams in March, how is the academy going to find out?

I just spoke to someone in the establishment division and he told me that one can always take 10 days off to appear for the exams.

mhkhan Tuesday, June 05, 2012 09:56 PM

[QUOTE=junaidd;437784]How is this ban enforced? If a candidate sends his/her forms in December and then takes a week off to take the exams in March, how is the academy going to find out?

I just spoke to someone in the establishment division and he told me that one can always take 10 days off to appear for the exams.[/QUOTE]

This ban is sheer injustice and CSA in no case should have the power to ban a candidate from taking his attempt which is right and if this ban continues it must be challenged. How CSA can deprive a CSS aspirant from his right just because of 10 days leave.

What if a person goes to take paper without taking permission from CSA ( In case they do not allow) What might be the consequence?? Seniors please guide

Shooting Star Wednesday, June 06, 2012 12:59 AM

@Hydrangea and all

Share all sort of contact information including FB links through your profiles only.

mhkhan Saturday, June 09, 2012 07:13 PM

I have learnt from one of my friend who is about to complete his 39th CTP that duration of 40th CTP is again going to be of 10 months. CTP used to be of 10 months till 37th CTP and it was reduced to 6 months for 38 and 39 CTP and appearing in paper during the CTP was banned from 38th CTP onward.

In case 40th CTP is again made of 10 months, does it mean that ban of appearing in paper during CTP would be lifted? Seniors please comment.

redmax Sunday, June 10, 2012 08:32 AM

[QUOTE=sarfaraz shami;436133]when 40th CTP will start :angle In fact I have a bond & have to give resignation notice of 3 months. Please help[/QUOTE]

It will most likely start in late October. :)



[B]Regards[/B],

serein Monday, June 11, 2012 01:05 AM

[QUOTE=redmax;439704]It will most likely start in late October. :)



[B]Regards[/B],[/QUOTE]
AOA,do u have any idea abt expected seats for sindh urban this year?

NASR KHAN Monday, June 11, 2012 08:44 AM

[QUOTE=serein;440055]AOA,do u have any idea abt expected seats for sindh urban this year?[/QUOTE]
15 to 20 new seats with around 40 carried forward ones. best of luck

floydian Monday, June 11, 2012 04:19 PM

[QUOTE=junaidd;437281]That's barely sufficient for a serious attempt...

Hmm.. I dunno, I might have to defer joining this year. How does one defer joining?
[/QUOTE]


Write the request to the secretary establishment division when you get the offer letter. Inform them on phone as well.


[QUOTE=junaidd;437784]How is this ban enforced? If a candidate sends his/her forms in December and then takes a week off to take the exams in March, how is the academy going to find out?

I just spoke to someone in the establishment division and he told me that one can always take 10 days off to appear for the exams.[/QUOTE]

CSA is the most dangerous place for secrets. A guy was relegated for attempting the exam secretly in last CTP. You cannot take an entire week off save for serious medical issue. Establishment division has nothing to do with CSA rules.

Gulam e Hiader e Karar Monday, June 18, 2012 05:28 PM

[QUOTE=ASPZIA;436300]sarfarz bro presently in 39 ctp we are getting around 22,500 after deductions (16000 basic and some allowances add to it ) after the 20% budget increase you can add around 4k to it[/QUOTE]


Sir ASPZIA sahib can u please elaborate your case how you were allocated.In the first allocation list ur name was not there then how u got through to CSA.
If u were re-allocated then that list is not posted anywhere. Can you please explain the said matter ???

Waiting positively for you reply sir??

Regards

muhammad imran sethi Monday, June 18, 2012 06:40 PM

[QUOTE=floydian;440275]Write the request to the secretary establishment division when you get the offer letter. Inform them on phone as well.




CSA is the most dangerous place for secrets. A guy was relegated for attempting the exam secretly in last CTP. You cannot take an entire week off save for serious medical issue. Establishment division has nothing to do with CSA rules.[/QUOTE]

brother can u tell me if group swap is allowed in c/a,if yes intraprovincial only or interprovincial also.I am getting different responses,pl clear my confusion

muhammad imran sethi Monday, June 18, 2012 11:34 PM

seniors are requested to answer my query regarding group swap

floydian Tuesday, June 19, 2012 03:53 PM

[QUOTE=muhammad imran sethi;442865]brother can u tell me if group swap is allowed in c/a,if yes intraprovincial only or interprovincial also.I am getting different responses,pl clear my confusion[/QUOTE]

No rule exists for mutual exchange of occupational groups. However, there are precedents in past regarding the same. For any such thing, only the Prime Minister has the ultimate authority. And getting the PM to allow for group swap is also next to impossible unless you personally know the big boss. In short, group swap is not allowed at all.

shahid babar Tuesday, June 19, 2012 04:15 PM

salam sir plz help me.which subject is scoring pashto or forestry?????my other opt subjects r journalism,arabic,pshycology.

floydian Tuesday, June 19, 2012 05:20 PM

[QUOTE=shahid babar;443188]salam sir plz help me.which subject is scoring pashto or forestry?????my other opt subjects r journalism,arabic,pshycology.[/QUOTE]

Pashto is more scoring. So go for Pashto.

ArifAwan Tuesday, June 19, 2012 06:13 PM

[QUOTE=floydian;443226]Pashto is more scoring. So go for Pashto.[/QUOTE]

Sir, Although I agree with your suggestion that Pushto is generally scoring but this year it was a night mare for all of us. I scored 59 in pushto and 81 in forestry despite having a good command over pushto subject. Other qualifiers too have pushto marks below 65 this year. I am not sure whether this trend would continue further as Punjabi fetched as much as 87.

@shahid babar: I am not going to suggest forestry for everyone as it is a bit technical but one can not simply expect the ultra scoring trend of pushto each year. Go for pushto but don't expect too much. Stay blessed.

shahid babar Wednesday, June 20, 2012 03:54 PM

arif bhai i am pathan but i dont know how to write pashto????plz give me some tips related to that..

Gulam e Hiader e Karar Thursday, June 21, 2012 01:43 AM

Dear All,

Will there be any re-allocation if any one doesn't join? If it is the case then the entire list will be changed? I m really confused regarding this matter. Please answer the query if you have some knowledge about it.

Thanks

sarfaraz shami Thursday, June 21, 2012 09:08 AM

[QUOTE=Gulam e Hiader e Karar;443906]Dear All,

Will there be any re-allocation if any one doesn't join? If it is the case then the entire list will be changed? I m really confused regarding this matter. Please answer the query if you have some knowledge about it.

Thanks[/QUOTE]
Entire list will be changed, If merit # 1 does not join. List will be changed from the merit # which will not join. Subsequent list will be changed.

firefly Friday, June 22, 2012 01:51 AM

Working conditions:

seniors members what do u think of information group in terms of...

Salary:

Perks and Privileges:

Promotions:

Trainings - within country and abroad:

Respect and Prestige in Society:

How better IRS is (than other groups):
What are the negative points?


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hilarious Friday, June 22, 2012 08:20 PM

kindly seniors reply to the above post of firefly,,,,,,,,,,,as I have also placed information above OMG as I thought information is going to be more innovative than OMG & one can come up with new ideas n canvass of contribution is going to be more in this group...
seniors comment plzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

notoriouseagle Friday, June 22, 2012 09:06 PM

[QUOTE=ArifAwan;443250]Sir, Although I agree with your suggestion that Pushto is generally scoring but this year it was a night mare for all of us. I scored 59 in pushto and 81 in forestry despite having a good command over pushto subject. Other qualifiers too have pushto marks below 65 this year. I am not sure whether this trend would continue further as Punjabi fetched as much as 87.

@shahid babar: I am not going to suggest forestry for everyone as it is a bit technical but one can not simply expect the ultra scoring trend of pushto each year. Go for pushto but don't expect too much. Stay blessed.[/QUOTE]

Hello Sir

Could you please advise on how you structured your answers? I know its a broad question but a condensed answer would be appreciated.

Thanks

ArifAwan Friday, June 22, 2012 09:59 PM

[QUOTE=notoriouseagle;444493]Hello Sir

Could you please advise on how you structured your answers? I know its a broad question but a condensed answer would be appreciated.

Thanks[/QUOTE]

Use of headings depending upon the the nature of question. I tried to give short background and future prospect in answering questions.


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