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nice051 Thursday, January 26, 2012 10:53 PM

the prince said , ' how can i turn away the mother , who born me and nourished me ? '

the little boy said , ' would that my parents were here on this occasion '

zuhaib ahmed Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:31 PM

[QUOTE=nice051;398023]the prince said , ' how can i turn away the mother , who born me and nourished me ? '[/QUOTE]



The prince asked how could he turn away the mother who born him and nourished him.

nice051 Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:41 PM

[QUOTE=zuhaib ahmed;398039]The prince asked how could he turn away the mother who born him and nourished him.[/QUOTE]

sorry brother to me your answer is wrong. prince told (me) that he could not turn away the mother who had born him and nourished him.

zuhaib ahmed Thursday, January 26, 2012 11:54 PM

[QUOTE=nice051;398041]sorry brother to me your answer is wrong. prince told (me) that he could not turn away the mother who had born him and nourished him.[/QUOTE]

Perhaps, I am wrong.

According to Wren and Martin book.

[B]A Simple present becomes a simple past.
A present continues becomes a past continues.
A present perfect becomes a past perfect.[/B]

[B]who had born him and nourished him.[/B]

How did you change past indefinite into past perfect? [B]A present perfect becomes a past perfect.[/B] Think about it.

There was a question mark in direct speech. Was it not better to use ASKED instead of TOLD?

Thanks.

azure Friday, January 27, 2012 12:02 AM

The prince said that how could he turn away the mother who had born him and nourished him.

The little boy wished that his parents had been there on that occasion.

zuhaib ahmed Friday, January 27, 2012 12:32 AM

Seniors sweep away my mistakes. =)

Past indefinite can be changed into past perfect, it matters not.

WAS THERE MISTAKE OF [B]HAD[/B] IN ANSWER OF MINE?

I await you.

nice051 Friday, January 27, 2012 02:14 AM

[QUOTE=zuhaib ahmed;398058]Seniors sweep away my mistakes. =)

Past indefinite can be changed into past perfect, it matters not.

WAS THERE MISTAKE OF [B]HAD[/B] IN ANSWER OF MINE?

I await you.[/QUOTE]

yes bro

Alyosha Friday, January 27, 2012 02:48 AM

"the prince said , ' how can i turn away the mother , who born me and nourished me ?"

the sentence itself has a grammatical mistake. one can not say "born me". A person is born. a mother gives birth. a mother does not born someone. I believe the word you're looking for is [B]borne[/B] that is the past participle of bear.

@nice051
"prince told (me) that he could not turn away the mother who had born him and nourished him."
by adding [U]not[/U] you're changing a positive sentence into a negative one.

The correct answer is [B]The prince asked how could[/B] ([I]simple present into simple past[/I]) [B]he turn[/B] ([I]no change in past perfect[/I]) [B]away the mother who HAD borne and nourished him.[/B] ([I]borne and nourished are both simple past tense and simple past changes to past perfect[/I])
[url=http://www.learnenglish.de/grammar/reportedspeech.htm]English Grammar - direct speech - quoted speech and indirect speech - reported speech - Learn English[/url]

azure Friday, January 27, 2012 03:51 AM

@ Alyosha
Thank you heaps for the correction that you made.
But the sentence didn't have a "?" at its end, so it doesn't look like a question.
I think "said" would remain unchanged.

Alyosha Friday, January 27, 2012 04:48 AM

Check the very first post it does have a ?

On second thought, shouldn't TURN which is simple present be changed to turned? but then writing "how could he turned" is incorrect, therefore I'm assuming turn used in relation with could becomes simple past tense which according to the rules would change to past perfect therefore the answer should be: The prince asked how could he had turned away the mother who had borne and nourished him.

Does that make sense or am I over thinking it?


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