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Seniors please Please help me to explain this proverb. I am unable to grasp the idea .
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Seniors please Please help me to explain this proverb. I am unable to grasp the idea .
Well i found this phrase very tempting. Below is the expansion of given phrase as per my understanding. its open to criticism.

love is a beautiful but baleful god.
Love beguiles its devotee through its charms.It is a power which is kind, yet threatening by dint of strength and madness associated with it. Such is its temptation that it remained favourite topic of poets, philosophers, writers and religions of all ages.

The manifestations of love are self contradictory. Love is beautiful because it compels a mother to stay awake whole night for her newborn. On the contrary, Love is baleful because it force a monarch to cross the boundaries of morality.

The love for power, or opposite gender or success or wealth are all in pursuit of beautiful outcomes. Yet, the blind drive of all these lovers, to reach that outcome often leads to thorny paths. Excess of it blurs the vision of its follower, affecting the person involved along with the people around him.

Either it be a war of succession in a remote century, or a proxy battle fought in 21st century, the dangers and deaths are always encountered at altar of love. A student studying late in night for love of shining success, a soldier fighting at the border for love of his country, are all evidences to the fact that this beautiful feeling has the power to turn the man away from his attachments. In extreme cases it releases the man from the healthy chains of norms created by religion, or society, thus, leading to undesirable fall out.

For example, the corruption or bribery is often done in love for a dear one. The middle class man wants his children to live a healthy life and trade his honesty for safe future of his children because he love them.


Love is like a shining star in skies which is to be admired by everyone. But, those who attempt to undertake its conquest are fatigued in breathtaking ordeals.

The omnipotent entity called love has the ability to tranquilize a person, and control his actions, in such a way that the subject finds the whole process pleasurable, and this is itself a glaring threat.

A verse of Mian Muhammad Bakhsh a famous punjabi sufi poet is explanatory to the given phrase.

it is evident that the love and its pursuit is not an easy task.
It puts the man in endless trials before the acquisition.
(Mian Muhammad Bakhsh)
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Well i found this phrase very tempting. Below is the expansion of given phrase as per my understanding. its open to criticism.

love is a beautiful but baleful god.
Love beguiles its devotee through its charms.It is a power which is kind, yet threatening by dint of strength and madness associated with it. Such is its temptation that it remained favourite topic of poets, philosophers, writers and religions of all ages. This statement is not suitable here.Further explain first two lines, i mean expand the idea a bit more .

The manifestations of love are self contradictory. Love is beautiful because it compels a mother to stay awake whole night for her newborn. On the contrary, Love is baleful because it force a monarch to cross the boundaries of morality. (Do you really think it compels only monarch and if it is then how ? ) Again very narrow idea

The love for power, or opposite gender or success or wealth are all in pursuit of beautiful outcomes. Yet, the blind drive of all these lovers, to reach that outcome often leads to thorny paths. Excess of it blurs the vision of its follower, affecting the person involved along with the people around him. Unclear argument. Make it more clear.

Either it be a war of succession in a remote century, or a proxy battle fought in 21st century, the dangers and deaths are always encountered at altar of love.First tell that love has dreadful outcomes and then justify with example. I hope you got it.
A student studying late in night for love of shining success,. I think its a vague example. Just my opinion.Change it with some other.
a soldier fighting at the border for love of his country, are all evidences to the fact that this beautiful feeling has the power to turn the man away from his attachments. Dont make too much long and complicated sentences.
In extreme cases it releases the man from the healthy chains of norms created by religion, or society, thus, leading to undesirable fall out. How ? Corruption is not valid argument.

For example, the corruption or bribery is often done in love for a dear one. The middle class man wants his children to live a healthy life and trade his honesty for safe future of his children because he love (loves) them. You have added both aspects in one argument. Doesn't make sense.


Love is like a shining star in skies which is to be admired by everyone. But, those who attempt to undertake its conquest are fatigued in breathtaking ordeals. You could quote example of Helen of Troy here.

The omnipotent entity called love has the ability to tranquilize a person, and control his actions, in such a way that the subject finds the whole process pleasurable, and this is itself a glaring threat.

A verse of Mian Muhammad Bakhsh a famous punjabi sufi poet is explanatory to the given phrase.

it is evident that the love and its pursuit is not an easy task.
It puts the man in endless trials before the acquisition.
(Mian Muhammad Bakhsh)
I just put forward my opinion. Seniors are welcome to suggest. And your expression is not eye catching. You know what i mean. Sorry to criticize. Good Luck. I will be looking for more improved version of this one. As i myself working on this thing.
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I just put forward my opinion. Seniors are welcome to suggest. And your expression is not eye catching. You know what i mean. Sorry to criticize. Good Luck. I will be looking for more improved version of this one. As i myself working on this thing.
Expression was quite enough to make someone to "grab the idea" as you asked.
I'm not some typical "senior" though, yet I will try to add few things.

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Well i found this phrase very tempting. Below is the expansion of given phrase as per my understanding. its open to criticism.


love is a beautiful but baleful god.
Love beguiles its devotee through its charms.It is a power which is kind, yet threatening by dint of strength and madness associated with it. Such is its temptation that it remained favourite topic of poets, philosophers, writers and religions of all ages.
You must had explained here first that how love is adorable. Then you should have started the next facet after that.

The manifestations of love are self contradictory. Love is beautiful because it compels a mother to stay awake whole night for her newborn. On the contrary, Love is baleful because it force a monarch to cross the boundaries of morality.
You have quoted the example of 'being adorable' first from domestic point of view, then the example of being "baleful" from a different tier of life.

The love for power, or opposite gender or success or wealth are all in pursuit of beautiful outcomes. Yet, the blind drive of all these lovers, to reach that outcome often leads to thorny paths. Excess of it blurs the vision of its follower, affecting the person involved along with the people around him.
Excess of it blurs the vision? It keeps you focused. The proverb is meant for the person it addresses so we have to explain what he suffers or what he gets...It does n't matter what happens to others (Quite convoluted one)

Either it be a war of succession in a remote century, or a proxy battle fought in 21st century, the dangers and deaths are always encountered at altar of love. A student studying late in night for love of shining success, a soldier fighting at the border for love of his country, are all evidences to the fact that this beautiful feeling has the power to turn the man away from his attachments. In extreme cases it releases the man from the healthy chains of norms created by religion, or society, thus, leading to undesirable fall out.
Again different tiers of life...If you are stating something at a National level, the following contrary example should be from same layer of life..
From Proxy wars you jumped to a student, you should had focused on soldier just.

For example, the corruption or bribery is often done in love for a dear one. The middle class man wants his children to live a healthy life and trade his honesty for safe future of his children because he love them.
Corruption and bribery is not done for children solely...There is a covert agenda of raising one's status and making his son or daughter so capable that one's life get's easier in the end.It's correction of the thought not the expression

Love is like a shining star in skies which is to be admired by everyone. But, those who attempt to undertake its conquest are fatigued in breathtaking ordeals.
You bring the opposite idea too swiftly..Keep calm...Explain a little bit in 2,3 sentences then move to the horrifying outcomes
The omnipotent entity called love has the ability to tranquilize a person, and control his actions, in such a way that the subject finds the whole process pleasurable, and this is itself a glaring threat.
Being pleasurable and tranquillizing, how it is a threat? You must had explained it a little while putting few sentences in conclusive style.
A verse of Mian Muhammad Bakhsh a famous punjabi sufi poet is explanatory to the given phrase.

it is evident that the love and its pursuit is not an easy task.
It puts the man in endless trials before the acquisition.
(Mian Muhammad Bakhsh)
I have tried to translate Waris Shah's poetry instead "Mazrat k sath"..
Brha Ishq Ishq tu karna ae...
You reiterate for Lustless love again and again
Unlock the maze of this domain
Will roll you up in the sand dune
Utter some words of love tune
Relieves come few but pains infinite,
Try weighing the love for a while,for a minute,
Your smiling eyes will get dew drops
Try forgetting me from your heart props.
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Guys thanx for your valuable criticism, it seems like my words have undergone some severe scrutiny i guess.

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nothing to be sorry of. infact i appreciate it. We all learn through criticism. Some of your points do hold ground.

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first of all thanx. You r right, i realize i've given examples from different tiers of life which should not be the case.
I disagree with only one of your criticism where you asked Being pleasurable and tranquillizing, how it is a threat? actually if you see in that sentence i've talked of "control of person's actions" which subject "finds" pleasurable, which means in reality it is not supposed to be so. here the "perception" of pleasure even after submission is the actual threat.
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Thank you. It really helped me a lot also. Hope to see an improved version soon. I will soon post mine also
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Love is a very unnatural nature.
Lover accepts death in excitement while everyone else fears it.
It is glowing fire that tempts viewer to touch it.
Love is a joy that is expressed in tears, it is speech of silence.
It's a sweet poison that is eaten for delight but kills all of it.
Love is like American aid for Pakistan =P
Relief that keeps you disturbed all the time, Sleep that makes you awake all the time,
Water that does not quench thirst, Fire that freezes the wood and vision that is blind.
It's all love that is so beautiful yet baleful.
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Note: I liked sadafazam's expansion.
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I disagree with only one of your criticism where you asked Being pleasurable and tranquillizing, how it is a threat? actually if you see in that sentence i've talked of "control of person's actions" which subject "finds" pleasurable, which means in reality it is not supposed to be so. here the "perception" of pleasure even after submission is the actual threat.
Hen???? haha.."Eddi Okhi Angraiji"...

No, I did n't said you are wrong....Pleasurable and Tranquillizing entity leading you towards detrimental outcomes,as you get drowned in the stream of your very sentiments or in a state where your cerebellum gets enriched with the thought of a future pleasure and drives you blindly to follow the path..
This was a good thought but you explained little less...2-3 sentences which may explain what you really want to see. Examiner must know a little bit that your statement is not just a "crammed" one but you really know what you are saying especially such quite mature thoughts.
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B]Lots Of People Confuse bad management with Destiny[/B][/COLOR]



This statement ascribe the psyche of many people , which is that bad management is outcome of their fate or destiny. They believe that failure is only due fate’s act. A student when failed in examination. He connects this failure with his destiny, rather than it may be other factors. Will be responsible of it: Such as may be he did not go through properly preparation, maybe he was not fully serious with study and bad management of his study time table.
If you drive car fast, it will be not controlled at next sudden blind turn, and you may be meet an accident. In this whole situation if you connected bad management with fate is not good reason to satisfy yourself. Blame game is attitude of losers not of wise man or successful person. Accident which you have faced, relating to your bad driving. In our daily life mostly mishaps occurred due to our negligence. Which should not be confused to destiny or fate.
A wise man always learns by his mistakes and failures despite it all mistakes are part of human life. But if we learned by our mistakes and failures we will succeeded one day. Because failures give us chance to criticize ourselves and find out to our weak points. A failed student if look to his past he will come to know that failure was due to his own weakness, and commit to avoid those steps which has reason of failure, one day he will must be succeeded Hence instead of confusing bad management with destiny, we have to face reality of mishaps which has faced .
In our country, political instability, which mostly our politicians connect with other factors rather than themselves is not good excuse. In fact whole political confusing is ultimately result of negligence of politicians, bureaucrats and army too. It’s confusing with fate or other factors is injustice with nation and country.
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