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sidra siyal Monday, November 05, 2012 04:45 PM

Let's Solve Precis and Get Equipped for 2013
 
[B]PRECIS 2010[/B]
Of all the characteristics of ordinary human nature envy is the most unfortunate; not only does the envious person wish to inflict misfortune and do so whenever he can with impunity, but he is also himself rendered unhappy by envy. Instead of deriving pleasure from what he has, he derives pain from what others have. If he can, he deprives others of their advantages, which to him is as desirable as it would be to secure the same advantages himself. If this passion is allowed to run riot it becomes fatal to all excellence, and even to the most useful exercise of exceptional skill. Why should a medical man go to see his patients in a car when the labourer has to walk to his work? Why should the scientific investigator be allowed to spend his time in a warm room when others have to face the inclemency of the elements? Why should a man who possesses some rare talent of great importance to the world be saved from the drudgery of his own housework? To such questions envy finds no answer. Fortunately, however, there is in human nature a compensating passion, namely that of admiration. Whoever wishes to increase human happiness must wish to increase admiration and to diminish envy.
What cure is there for envy? For the saint there is the cure of selflessness, though even in the case of saints envy of other saints is by no means impossible. But, leaving saints out of account, the only cure for envy in the case of ordinary men and women is happiness, and the difficulty is that envy is itself a terrible obstacle to happiness.
But the envious man may say: ‘What is the good of telling me that the cure for envy is happiness? I cannot find happiness while I continue to feel envy, and you tell me that I cannot cease to be envious until I find happiness.’ But real life is never so logical as this. Merely to realize the causes of one’s own envious feeling is to take a long step towards curing them.

[B]TITLE:ENVY-THE FATAL DISEASE OR ENVY-THE MORAL DISEASE CAUSES AND REMEDIES [/B]

Envy is the fatal disease.Envious person desires to mark others with bad karma and seeks pleasure in destroying others.Instead to being thankful for what he has,envious person is busy depriving others of glories.If this obsession is let loose it could turn into a habit or a skill.As every coin has two sides,the fatality of enviousness can be cured by the rehab of admiration or if not then by self realization of one's own flaws.

[B]Corrections are highly welcomed[/B]

hawk spirit Monday, November 05, 2012 05:29 PM

what do you think about the title

THE QUAGMIRE OF ENVY.

sidra siyal Monday, November 05, 2012 08:16 PM

[QUOTE=hawk spirit;506324]what do you think about the title

THE QUAGMIRE OF ENVY.[/QUOTE]
Its Good but word Quagmire won't suit the passage :)

hawk spirit Monday, November 05, 2012 08:57 PM

hw?

sidra siyal Monday, November 05, 2012 09:15 PM

[QUOTE=hawk spirit;506453]hw?[/QUOTE]
If you'll read closely u'll find that passage is about curse of envy and the actions...,the word quagmire could have been used when we were talking about any situation or position

saeed jatoi Tuesday, November 20, 2012 12:19 PM

@sidra siyal
 
I think the word karma should not be used for being technical term instead a simple equivalent word should be used.

sidra siyal Thursday, November 22, 2012 12:46 AM

seniors please evaluate
 
Make a precis of the given passage and suggest a suitable heading:

We're dealing with a very dramatic and very fundamental paradigm shift here. You may try" to lubricate your' social interactions with personality techniques and skills, but in the process, you may truncate the vital character base. You can't have the fruits without the roots. It's the principle of sequencing: Private victory precedes Public Victory. Self-mastery and self-discipline are the foundation of good relationship with others. Some people say that you have to like yourself before you can like others. I think' that idea has merit but if you don't know yourself, if you don't control yourself, if you don't have mastery over yourself, it's very hard to like yourself, except in some short-term, psych-up, superficial way. Real self-respect comes from dominion over*self from true independence. Independence is an achievement. Inter dependence is a choice only independent people can make. Unless we are willing to achieve real independence, it's foolish to try to develop human relations skills. We might try. We might even have some degree of success when the sun is shining. But when the difficult times come - and they will - We won't have the foundation to keep things together. The most important ingredient we put into any relationship is not what we say or what we do, but what we are. And if our words and our actions come from superficial human relations techniques (the Personality Ethic) rather than from our own inner core (the character Ethic), others will sense that duplicity. We simply won't be able to create and sustain the foundation necessary" for effective interdependence. The techniques and skills that really make a difference in human interaction are the ones that almost naturally flow from a truly independent character. So the place to begin building any relationship is inside ourselves, inside our Circle of Influence, our own character. As we become independent - Proactive, centered in correct principles, value driven and able to organize and execute around the priorities in our life with integrity - we then can choose to become interdependent - capable of building rich, enduring, highly productive relationships with other people.:blink

PRECIS:

By personality tactics one might impress upon others for a time being.But,this process is superficial.The real personality comes from within.Notwithstanding,sharping ones inner abilities creates independence of character and also the basis of a good relationship with others.

agilicious Monday, November 26, 2012 11:14 PM

[QUOTE=sidra siyal;515293]Make a precis of the given passage and suggest a suitable heading:

We're dealing with a very dramatic and very fundamental paradigm shift here. You may try" to lubricate your' social interactions with personality techniques and skills, but in the process, you may truncate the vital character base. You can't have the fruits without the roots. It's the principle of sequencing: Private victory precedes Public Victory. Self-mastery and self-discipline are the foundation of good relationship with others. Some people say that you have to like yourself before you can like others. I think' that idea has merit but if you don't know yourself, if you don't control yourself, if you don't have mastery over yourself, it's very hard to like yourself, except in some short-term, psych-up, superficial way. Real self-respect comes from dominion over*self from true independence. Independence is an achievement. Inter dependence is a choice only independent people can make. Unless we are willing to achieve real independence, it's foolish to try to develop human relations skills. We might try. We might even have some degree of success when the sun is shining. But when the difficult times come - and they will - We won't have the foundation to keep things together. The most important ingredient we put into any relationship is not what we say or what we do, but what we are. And if our words and our actions come from superficial human relations techniques (the Personality Ethic) rather than from our own inner core (the character Ethic), others will sense that duplicity. We simply won't be able to create and sustain the foundation necessary" for effective interdependence. The techniques and skills that really make a difference in human interaction are the ones that almost naturally flow from a truly independent character. So the place to begin building any relationship is inside ourselves, inside our Circle of Influence, our own character. As we become independent - Proactive, centered in correct principles, value driven and able to organize and execute around the priorities in our life with integrity - we then can choose to become interdependent - capable of building rich, enduring, highly productive relationships with other people.:blink

PRECIS:

By personality tactics one might impress upon others for a time being.But,this process is superficial.The real personality comes from within.Notwithstanding,sharping ones inner abilities creates independence of character and also the basis of a good relationship with others.[/QUOTE]
I am no senior so that's why can't comment on your precis. Kindly take a look at mine and provide any feedback (negative is more important) as i have tried it for the v first time and i am not even sure what the examiner is actually looking for in a precis, i have merely written a short summary of the paragraph! Any feedback will be highly appreciated.

"Relationships built upon one's interpersonal skills alone i.e. shallow otherwise, though mightresult in a short-term success, but are not long-lasting. For a successful relationship, one must have independence and self domination, which together also shape up a person's character/ personality."

Regards.

Aimen khakwani Tuesday, November 27, 2012 12:26 AM

PRECIS 2010
Of all the characteristics of ordinary human nature envy is the most unfortunate; not only does the envious person wish to inflict misfortune and do so whenever he can with impunity, but he is also himself rendered unhappy by envy. Instead of deriving pleasure from what he has, he derives pain from what others have. If he can, he deprives others of their advantages, which to him is as desirable as it would be to secure the same advantages himself. If this passion is allowed to run riot it becomes fatal to all excellence, and even to the most useful exercise of exceptional skill. Why should a medical man go to see his patients in a car when the labourer has to walk to his work? Why should the scientific investigator be allowed to spend his time in a warm room when others have to face the inclemency of the elements? Why should a man who possesses some rare talent of great importance to the world be saved from the drudgery of his own housework? To such questions envy finds no answer. Fortunately, however, there is in human nature a compensating passion, namely that of admiration. Whoever wishes to increase human happiness must wish to increase admiration and to diminish envy.
What cure is there for envy? For the saint there is the cure of selflessness, though even in the case of saints envy of other saints is by no means impossible. But, leaving saints out of account, the only cure for envy in the case of ordinary men and women is happiness, and the difficulty is that envy is itself a terrible obstacle to happiness.
But the envious man may say: ‘What is the good of telling me that the cure for envy is happiness? I cannot find happiness while I continue to feel envy, and you tell me that I cannot cease to be envious until I find happiness.’ But real life is never so logical as this. Merely to realize the causes of one’s own envious feeling is to take a long step towards curing them.

My First attempt:-

Envy is the deplorable trait of human personality. It is the source of unhappiness. The envious person does not seek happiness from his own belongings. He usually imposes misfortune on others. He creates hurdles for the others to attain their benefits. It seems that he is securing these benefits for himself. This attitude, if does not condemn, will ruin his qualities and character. He does not know how to compare the situation and importance of anything. However, enviousness can be cured through appreciation that leads towards happiness. Happiness cannot go parallel with enviousness. Comprehending the root cause of envious feeling is effective but time demanding method to cure it.

please evaluate.

sidra siyal Tuesday, November 27, 2012 12:29 AM

[QUOTE=agilicious;517843]I am no senior so that's why can't comment on your precis. Kindly take a look at mine and provide any feedback (negative is more important) as i have tried it for the v first time and i am not even sure what the examiner is actually looking for in a precis, i have merely written a short summary of the paragraph! Any feedback will be highly appreciated.

"Relationships built upon one's interpersonal skills alone i.e. shallow otherwise, though mightresult in a short-term success, but are not long-lasting. For a successful relationship, one must have independence and self domination, which together also shape up a person's character/ personality."

Regards.[/QUOTE]
Good effort this sentence need some work[B] i.e. shallow otherwise, though mightresult in a short-term success, but are not long-lasting[/B] rest is good :)

[QUOTE=Aimen khakwani;517889]PRECIS 2010
Of all the characteristics of ordinary human nature envy is the most unfortunate; not only does the envious person wish to inflict misfortune and do so whenever he can with impunity, but he is also himself rendered unhappy by envy. Instead of deriving pleasure from what he has, he derives pain from what others have. If he can, he deprives others of their advantages, which to him is as desirable as it would be to secure the same advantages himself. If this passion is allowed to run riot it becomes fatal to all excellence, and even to the most useful exercise of exceptional skill. Why should a medical man go to see his patients in a car when the labourer has to walk to his work? Why should the scientific investigator be allowed to spend his time in a warm room when others have to face the inclemency of the elements? Why should a man who possesses some rare talent of great importance to the world be saved from the drudgery of his own housework? To such questions envy finds no answer. Fortunately, however, there is in human nature a compensating passion, namely that of admiration. Whoever wishes to increase human happiness must wish to increase admiration and to diminish envy.
What cure is there for envy? For the saint there is the cure of selflessness, though even in the case of saints envy of other saints is by no means impossible. But, leaving saints out of account, the only cure for envy in the case of ordinary men and women is happiness, and the difficulty is that envy is itself a terrible obstacle to happiness.
But the envious man may say: ‘What is the good of telling me that the cure for envy is happiness? I cannot find happiness while I continue to feel envy, and you tell me that I cannot cease to be envious until I find happiness.’ But real life is never so logical as this. Merely to realize the causes of one’s own envious feeling is to take a long step towards curing them.

My First attempt:-

Envy is the deplorable trait of human personality. It is the source of unhappiness. The envious person does not seek happiness from his own belongings. He usually imposes misfortune on others. He creates hurdles for the others to attain their benefits. It seems that he is securing these benefits for himself. This attitude, if does not condemn, will ruin his qualities and character. He does not know how to compare the situation and importance of anything. However, enviousness can be cured through appreciation that leads towards happiness. Happiness cannot go parallel with enviousness. Comprehending the root cause of envious feeling is effective but time demanding method to cure it.

please evaluate.[/QUOTE]
Applaudable effort, If I were the examiner, would have given you full marks...For first attempt you did very well :)

Disciple of Aristotle Tuesday, November 27, 2012 02:13 AM

Title :Envy and its Remedy

Precis:
Envy is the worst human trait inclined to rob off others from their privileges while it keeps the envious person unhappy.Admiration, however, a redressal factor to this jealosy, evokes a feeling of happiness still is negated by the person whose lost resort is covetousnss but not to become happy.In reality, acknowledging the causes of envious feelings is itself a big remedy.


plz, comment

atifdada Tuesday, November 27, 2012 03:26 AM

[QUOTE=sidra siyal;517891]Applaudable effort, If I were the examiner, would have given you full marks...For first attempt you did very well :)[/QUOTE]
preci 2012 ( my first attempt )

One of the most ominous and discreditable symptoms of the want of candour in present-day sociology is the deliberate neglect of the population question. It is or should be transparently clear that if the State is resolved, on humanitarian grounds, to inhibit the operation of natural selection, some rational regulation of population, both as regards quantity and quality, is
imperatively necessary. There is no self-acting adjustment, apart from starvation, of numbers to the means of subsistence. If all natural checks are removed, a population in advance of the optimum number will be produced, and maintained at the cost of a reduction in the standard of living. When this pressure begins to be felt, that section of the population which is capable of reflection, and which has a standard of living which may be lost, will voluntarily restrict its numbers, even to the point of failing to replace deaths by an equivalent number of new births; while the underworld, which always exists in every civilised society the failures and misfits and derelicts, moral and physical will exercise no restraint, and will be a constantly increasing drain upon the national resources. The population will thus be recruited, in a very undue proportion, by those strata of society which do not possess the qualities of useful citizens.

The importance of the problem would seem to be sufficiently obvious. But politicians know that the subject is unpopular. The unborn have no votes. Employers like a surplus of labour, which can be drawn upon when trade is good. Militarists want as much food for powder as they can get. Revolutionists instinctively oppose any real remedy for social evils; they know that every unwanted child is a potential insurgent. All three can appeal to a quasi-religious prejudice, resting apparently on the ancient theory of natural rights, which were supposed to include the right of unlimited procreation. This objection is now chiefly urged by celibate or childless priests; but it is held with such fanatical vehemence that the fear of losing the votes which they control is a welcome excuse for the baser sort of politician to shelve the subject as inopportune. The Socialist calculation is probably erroneous; for experience has shown that it is aspiration, not desperation, that makes revolutions.


my own
Title "" State and overpopulation"" or ""survival of the fittest""

"" Ignoring population control query is a omen in honest sociology. state alone without natural selection phenomena cannot maintain a healthy circle of life, where poor and middle class will continue labor phenomena and rich would practice birth-control. Thus viscous cycle continues for natural resources. The politicians, the corporations and the army are against population-control as they want votes , labour and fighters to serve their interest. For this they believe on the same unchecked pro-creation phenomena as man's natural right . Hodge-podge calculations are made by socialists because from the yore population has proved to be a stimulus behind REVOLUTIONS ""

Disciple of Aristotle Tuesday, November 27, 2012 07:19 AM

[QUOTE=sidra siyal;517891]Applaudable effort, If I were the examiner, would have given you full marks...For first attempt you did very well :)[/QUOTE]
u all people missed the "main theme" in this precis of Envy, read the orignal passage once more

Aimen khakwani Tuesday, November 27, 2012 04:53 PM

which point disciple Aristotle ? plz mention it

agilicious Tuesday, November 27, 2012 06:28 PM

[QUOTE=Aimen khakwani;518178]which point disciple Aristotle ? plz mention it[/QUOTE]
No offence but your summary (precis) does not quite say what the article concluded! please take a look at the article again and proof read your summary/precis.

I am saying it out loud only because i feel criticism at this point would be a lot better than bragging about how well we have written something. I hope you would understand.
GOOD LUCK and happy writing!

agilicious Tuesday, November 27, 2012 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=sidra siyal;517890]Good effort this sentence need some work[B] i.e. shallow otherwise, though mightresult in a short-term success, but are not long-lasting[/B] rest is good :)


Thank you for your comments! could you please point out what EXACTLY did you find wrong/irrelevant in the sentence you've quoted ?
cheers!

Disciple of Aristotle Tuesday, November 27, 2012 08:01 PM

read the lines from original paragraph

"Fortunately, however, there is in human nature a compensating passion, namely that of admiration. Whoever wishes to increase human happiness must wish to increase admiration and to diminish envy." and

"But real life is never so logical as this. Merely to realize the causes of one’s own envious feeling is to take a long step towards curing them."

think what the writer wants to deliver

agilicious Wednesday, November 28, 2012 12:28 AM

[QUOTE=sidra siyal;506307][B]PRECIS 2010[/B]
Of all the characteristics of ordinary human nature envy is the most unfortunate; not only does the envious person wish to inflict misfortune and do so whenever he can with impunity, but he is also himself rendered unhappy by envy. Instead of deriving pleasure from what he has, he derives pain from what others have. If he can, he deprives others of their advantages, which to him is as desirable as it would be to secure the same advantages himself. If this passion is allowed to run riot it becomes fatal to all excellence, and even to the most useful exercise of exceptional skill. Why should a medical man go to see his patients in a car when the labourer has to walk to his work? Why should the scientific investigator be allowed to spend his time in a warm room when others have to face the inclemency of the elements? Why should a man who possesses some rare talent of great importance to the world be saved from the drudgery of his own housework? To such questions envy finds no answer. Fortunately, however, there is in human nature a compensating passion, namely that of admiration. Whoever wishes to increase human happiness must wish to increase admiration and to diminish envy.
What cure is there for envy? For the saint there is the cure of selflessness, though even in the case of saints envy of other saints is by no means impossible. But, leaving saints out of account, the only cure for envy in the case of ordinary men and women is happiness, and the difficulty is that envy is itself a terrible obstacle to happiness.
But the envious man may say: ‘What is the good of telling me that the cure for envy is happiness? I cannot find happiness while I continue to feel envy, and you tell me that I cannot cease to be envious until I find happiness.’ But real life is never so logical as this. Merely to realize the causes of one’s own envious feeling is to take a long step towards curing them.

[B]TITLE:ENVY-THE FATAL DISEASE OR ENVY-THE MORAL DISEASE CAUSES AND REMEDIES [/B]

Envy is the fatal disease.Envious person desires to mark others with bad karma and seeks pleasure in destroying others.Instead to being thankful for what he has,envious person is busy depriving others of glories.If this obsession is let loose it could turn into a habit or a skill.As every coin has two sides,the fatality of enviousness can be cured by the rehab of admiration or if not then by self realization of one's own flaws.

[B]Corrections are highly welcomed[/B][/QUOTE]
Please also take a look at this solution and give feedback!

"Human nature is plagued by envious feelings of individuals towards others. An envious person does not feel contended with what he has and ruins the happiness in his own life while wishing, acting in any way which could be harmful for people he feels envious about. Even saints are not free from envious feelings. On the other hand, admiration is a trait of human nature which helps to diminsh the effects of envy. While the ultimate cure to envy is hapiness, finding out the root cause of these feelings is the first step."

agilicious Wednesday, November 28, 2012 12:46 AM

[QUOTE=Disciple of Aristotle;518310]read the lines from original paragraph

"Fortunately, however, there is in human nature a compensating passion, namely that of admiration. Whoever wishes to increase human happiness must wish to increase admiration and to diminish envy." and

"But real life is never so logical as this. Merely to realize the causes of one’s own envious feeling is to take a long step towards curing them."

think what the writer wants to deliver[/QUOTE]
Please take a look at my solution and give feedback! your comments are critical so please do take a look.

Disciple of Aristotle Wednesday, November 28, 2012 01:32 AM

Agilicious, now u have got the points, Good effort

Aimen khakwani Wednesday, November 28, 2012 06:38 AM

My second attempt

Envy is the deplorable trait of human personality. It is the source of unhappiness. The envious person does not seek happiness from his own belongings. He usually imposes misfortune on others. He creates hurdles for the others to attain their benefits. It seems that he is securing these benefits for himself. This attitude, if does not condemn, will ruin his qualities and character. He does not know how to compare the situation and importance of anything. Even saints are not free from envious feelings. However, enviousness can be cured through admiration rather than happiness. An envious person cannot feel happiness. Rationally, comprehending the root cause of envious feeling is an ultimate approach to cure envy.


Please Evaluate This And Disciple of Aristotle Thank you for guiding me rightly rather than giving me full marks. I missed some points. And u guided me in a right manner

Disciple of Aristotle Wednesday, November 28, 2012 06:44 AM

[QUOTE=Aimen khakwani;518579]My second attempt

Envy is the deplorable trait of human personality. It is the source of unhappiness. The envious person does not seek happiness from his own belongings. He usually imposes misfortune on others. He creates hurdles for the others to attain their benefits. It seems that he is securing these benefits for himself. This attitude, if does not condemn, will ruin his qualities and character. He does not know how to compare the situation and importance of anything. Even saints are not free from envious feelings. However, enviousness can be cured through admiration rather than happiness. An envious person cannot feel happiness. Rationally, comprehending the root cause of envious feeling is an ultimate approach to cure envy.


Please Evaluate This And Disciple of Aristotle Thank you for guiding me rightly rather than giving me full marks. I missed some points. And u guided me in a right manner[/QUOTE]
yes Aiman, your 2nd attempt deserve praise.

Disciple of Aristotle Wednesday, November 28, 2012 06:47 AM

Aiman! suggest title of your precis

sidra siyal Wednesday, November 28, 2012 02:04 PM

[QUOTE=agilicious;518255][QUOTE=sidra siyal;517890]Good effort this sentence need some work[B] i.e. shallow otherwise, though mightresult in a short-term success, but are not long-lasting[/B] rest is good :)


Thank you for your comments! could you please point out what EXACTLY did you find wrong/irrelevant in the sentence you've quoted ?
cheers![/QUOTE]
your writing style is effective :),the sentence in bold if adjusted,might clear the meaning.
i.e. shallow otherwise, though mightresult in a short-term success, but are not long-lasting
[B] i.e. shallow otherwise, It might result in a short-term success, but not long-term[/B]

sidra siyal Wednesday, November 28, 2012 02:18 PM

Please evaluate critically
 
[B]2003[/B]

If then a practical end must be assigned to a University course, I say it is that of training good members of a society. Its ah is the art of social life, and its end is fitness for the world. It neither confines its views to particular professions on the one hand, not creates heroes or inspires genius on the other. Works indeed of genius fall under no art; heroic minds come under no rule; a University is not a birthplace of poets or of immortal authors, of founders of schools, leaders of colonies, or conquerors of nations. It does not promise a generation of Aristotle or Newtons of Napoleons or Washingtons of Raphaels or Shakespearcs though such miracles of nature it has before now contained within its precincts. Nor is it content on the other hand with forming the critic or the experimentalist, the economist or the engineer, through such too it includes within its scope. But a University training is the great ordinary means to a great ordinary end; it aims at raising the intellectual tone of society, at cultivating the public mind, at purifying the national taste, at supplying true principles to popular aspirations. It is the education which gives a man a clear conscious view of his own opinions and judgments, a truth in developing them, an eloquence in expressing them, and a force in urging them, ft teaches him to sec things as they arc, to go right to the point, to disentangle a skein of thought, to detect what is sophistical and to - discard what is irrelevant. It prepares him to fill any post with credit, and to master any subject with facility. (John H. Ncwman)
[B]PRECIS[/B]

[B][COLOR="DarkOrchid"]University course,by basic means,train fine members of a society.It aims to soothe social life and make one fit for the world.It is neither limited to specific prefession nor produces heroes and genius.A university is not also,a childbed of poets,scholars,leaders or conquerors nor it is made to generate critics,economists or engineers,though certain subjects of this kind include in its horizon.University,in all means,seeds intellectual ideals cleanse national thought,builds and shapes the society.University provides education and it is education which gives man clear view of life and help him differentiate right and wrong.Education makes him ready to take any job and master any subject with ease.[/COLOR][/B]

[B]Importance of University[/B]

agilicious Wednesday, November 28, 2012 04:22 PM

[QUOTE=sidra siyal;518707][QUOTE=agilicious;518255]
your writing style is effective :),the sentence in bold if adjusted,might clear the meaning.
i.e. shallow otherwise, though mightresult in a short-term success, but are not long-lasting
[B] i.e. shallow otherwise, It might result in a short-term success, but not long-term[/B][/QUOTE]

i appreciate your comment and time! Kindly note that the sentence you've quoted is grammatically wrong. But i do get the idea!

Would you mind taking a look at my other solution for the article "ENVY TO ADMIRATION" and i'd be returning the favor by commenting on your work and by trying to point out anything i can!
Regards.

agilicious Wednesday, November 28, 2012 04:54 PM

[QUOTE=Aimen khakwani;518579]My second attempt

Envy is the deplorable trait of human personality. It is the source of unhappiness. The envious person does not seek happiness from his own belongings. He usually imposes misfortune on others. He creates hurdles for the others to attain their benefits. It seems that he is securing these benefits for himself. This attitude, if does not condemn, will ruin his qualities and character. He does not know how to compare the situation and importance of anything. Even saints are not free from envious feelings. However, enviousness can be cured through admiration rather than happiness. An envious person cannot feel happiness. Rationally, comprehending the root cause of envious feeling is an ultimate approach to cure envy.


Please Evaluate This And Disciple of Aristotle Thank you for guiding me rightly rather than giving me full marks. I missed some points. And u guided me in a right manner[/QUOTE]
Please take a look at following (i hate to do it as much as you hate to look at mistakes others point out in your hard work but please do keep in mind that its only for your own benefit plus if it helps you can always ignore these keeping in mind that i am neither a tutor or a SENIOR)

The following sentences are grammatically wrong:
[B]"He creates hurdles for the others to attain their benefits. It seems that he is securing these benefits for himself."
This attitude, if does not condemn, will ruin his qualities and character. [/B]

In the following sentences, you're saying things that the writer never said in his original
paragraph. You have quoted : [B]"However, enviousness can be cured through admiration
rather than happiness. An envious person cannot feel happiness. Rationally, comprehending the root cause of envious feeling is an ultimate approach to cure envy." [/B]Whereas the writer wrote: [B]"But, leaving saints out of account, the only cure for envy in the case of ordinary men and women is happiness, and the difficulty is that envy is itself a terrible obstacle to happiness." " But real life is never so logical as this. Merely to realize the causes of one’s own envious feeling is to take a long step towards curing them." [/B]

Hope it helps! keep working hard.

agilicious Wednesday, November 28, 2012 05:13 PM

[QUOTE=sidra siyal;506307][B]PRECIS 2010[/B]
Of all the characteristics of ordinary human nature envy is the most unfortunate; not only does the envious person wish to inflict misfortune and do so whenever he can with impunity, but he is also himself rendered unhappy by envy. Instead of deriving pleasure from what he has, he derives pain from what others have. If he can, he deprives others of their advantages, which to him is as desirable as it would be to secure the same advantages himself. If this passion is allowed to run riot it becomes fatal to all excellence, and even to the most useful exercise of exceptional skill. Why should a medical man go to see his patients in a car when the labourer has to walk to his work? Why should the scientific investigator be allowed to spend his time in a warm room when others have to face the inclemency of the elements? Why should a man who possesses some rare talent of great importance to the world be saved from the drudgery of his own housework? To such questions envy finds no answer. Fortunately, however, there is in human nature a compensating passion, namely that of admiration. Whoever wishes to increase human happiness must wish to increase admiration and to diminish envy.
What cure is there for envy? For the saint there is the cure of selflessness, though even in the case of saints envy of other saints is by no means impossible. But, leaving saints out of account, the only cure for envy in the case of ordinary men and women is happiness, and the difficulty is that envy is itself a terrible obstacle to happiness.
But the envious man may say: ‘What is the good of telling me that the cure for envy is happiness? I cannot find happiness while I continue to feel envy, and you tell me that I cannot cease to be envious until I find happiness.’ But real life is never so logical as this. Merely to realize the causes of one’s own envious feeling is to take a long step towards curing them.

[B]TITLE:ENVY-THE FATAL DISEASE OR ENVY-THE MORAL DISEASE CAUSES AND REMEDIES [/B]

Envy is the fatal disease.Envious person desires to mark others with bad karma and seeks pleasure in destroying others.Instead to being thankful for what he has,envious person is busy depriving others of glories.If this obsession is let loose it could turn into a habit or a skill.As every coin has two sides,the fatality of enviousness can be cured by the rehab of admiration or if not then by self realization of one's own flaws.

[B]Corrections are highly welcomed[/B][/QUOTE]

I found it well written and virtually error-free!
but i am not too sure about the title.
way to go!

[QUOTE=sidra siyal;515293]Make a precis of the given passage and suggest a suitable heading:

We're dealing with a very dramatic and very fundamental paradigm shift here. You may try" to lubricate your' social interactions with personality techniques and skills, but in the process, you may truncate the vital character base. You can't have the fruits without the roots. It's the principle of sequencing: Private victory precedes Public Victory. Self-mastery and self-discipline are the foundation of good relationship with others. Some people say that you have to like yourself before you can like others. I think' that idea has merit but if you don't know yourself, if you don't control yourself, if you don't have mastery over yourself, it's very hard to like yourself, except in some short-term, psych-up, superficial way. Real self-respect comes from dominion over*self from true independence. Independence is an achievement. Inter dependence is a choice only independent people can make. Unless we are willing to achieve real independence, it's foolish to try to develop human relations skills. We might try. We might even have some degree of success when the sun is shining. But when the difficult times come - and they will - We won't have the foundation to keep things together. The most important ingredient we put into any relationship is not what we say or what we do, but what we are. And if our words and our actions come from superficial human relations techniques (the Personality Ethic) rather than from our own inner core (the character Ethic), others will sense that duplicity. We simply won't be able to create and sustain the foundation necessary" for effective interdependence. The techniques and skills that really make a difference in human interaction are the ones that almost naturally flow from a truly independent character. So the place to begin building any relationship is inside ourselves, inside our Circle of Influence, our own character. As we become independent - Proactive, centered in correct principles, value driven and able to organize and execute around the priorities in our life with integrity - we then can choose to become interdependent - capable of building rich, enduring, highly productive relationships with other people.:blink

PRECIS:

By personality tactics one might impress upon others for a time being.But,this process is superficial.The real personality comes from within.Notwithstanding,sharping ones inner abilities creates independence of character and also the basis of a good relationship with others.[/QUOTE]
Again i couldn't find out anything wrong in this! damn it. :)

sidra siyal Wednesday, November 28, 2012 05:44 PM

[QUOTE=agilicious;518781][QUOTE=sidra siyal;518707]

i appreciate your comment and time! Kindly note that the sentence you've quoted is grammatically wrong. But i do get the idea!

Would you mind taking a look at my other solution for the article "ENVY TO ADMIRATION" and i'd be returning the favor by commenting on your work and by trying to point out anything i can!
Regards.[/QUOTE]

:bow Thanks Agil... !!! I am thinking that we or any other interested candidate should attempt precis of the same year and post it here,that way we would be in a better position to evaluate the gist of it properly...What do you say?? Precis of which year should we attempt next? :happy:

[QUOTE=agilicious;518821]Again i couldn't find out anything wrong in this! damn it. :)[/QUOTE]

words are less in this precis actually :wub:

agilicious Wednesday, November 28, 2012 06:44 PM

[QUOTE=sidra siyal;518834][QUOTE=agilicious;518781]

:bow Thanks Agil... !!! I am thinking that we or any other interested candidate should attempt precis of the same year and post it here,that way we would be in a better position to evaluate the gist of it properly...What do you say?? Precis of which year should we attempt next? :happy:



words are less in this precis actually :wub:[/QUOTE]
Sure! that's a good idea. Lets start it from the top and see how far we can go. since the paper of 2011 has been scanned and we're already done with 2010, lets start from 2009 backwards ?

I'll write it later tonight (around 11, 12) and will post.

GOOD LUCK everybody!

P.S. I knew about the words but somehow ignored. Rest assured, no mercy from now onwards ;)

Aimen khakwani Wednesday, November 28, 2012 06:58 PM

Envy is the deplorable trait of human personality. He usually imposes misfortune on others. Envy is the source of unhappiness. The envious person does not seek happiness from his own belongings. He creates obstacles for the others to get their benefits. The envious nature ruins the extraordinary qualities of a man. He does not know how to compare the situation and importance of anything. Even saints are not free from envious feelings. However, enviousness can be cured through admiration. The ultimate approach to cure envy is happiness. Realistically, comprehending the root cause of envious feeling is itself a big step to cure envy.

Please read this piece of writing aglicious !!!

agilicious Thursday, November 29, 2012 04:57 PM

2009 paper
 
There you go paper 2009:

[B]Art: Disease or Cure[/B]

[COLOR="Blue"]There's no society on the face of earth which could fully understand and accept art literally. Evidently, art has always faced criticism even from great philosophers, who have been criticising and accusing it to be a source of emotional wreck when a person needs peace or escape from such emotions. The important thing here is to understand that the emotions and passions that art illuminates in a person are not new, rather it gives clarity and sense of direction to converge these feelings, instead of roaming astray, and channelizes the emotional strength gained thereof. The critics also ignore the beauty part of arts, let alone the pleasure one gets while only watching. Art acts merely as a mirror of any society.[/COLOR]

agilicious Thursday, November 29, 2012 05:09 PM

[QUOTE=Aimen khakwani;518881]Envy is the deplorable trait of human personality. He usually imposes misfortune on others. Envy is the source of unhappiness. The envious person does not seek happiness from his own belongings. He creates obstacles for the others to get their benefits. The envious nature ruins the extraordinary qualities of a man. He does not know how to compare the situation and importance of anything. Even saints are not free from envious feelings. However, enviousness can be cured through admiration. The ultimate approach to cure envy is happiness. Realistically, comprehending the root cause of envious feeling is itself a big step to cure envy.

Please read this piece of writing aglicious !!![/QUOTE]
well dear good effort but you still need to put a little more effort. i'd say that you forget about this article and start working on papers 2009 backwards with us. I have posted mine, you also do it. GOOD LUCK!

Ahmed Faisal Thursday, November 29, 2012 05:10 PM

[QUOTE=agilicious;519303]There you go paper 2009:

[B]Art: Disease or Cure[/B]

[COLOR="Blue"]There's no society on the face of earth which could fully understand and accept art literally. Evidently, art has always faced criticism even from great philosophers, who have been criticising and accusing it to be a source of emotional wreck when a person needs peace or escape from such emotions. The important thing here is to understand that the emotions and passions that art illuminates in a person are not new, rather it gives clarity and sense of direction to converge these feelings, instead of roaming astray, and channelizes the emotional strength gained thereof. The critics also ignore the beauty part of arts, let alone the pleasure one gets while only watching. Art acts merely as a mirror of any society.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Although i did not read the original text, but your precis seems a good piece of writing. One piece of advice, Try to work on your punctuations and articles :)

sonny Thursday, November 29, 2012 09:45 PM

[QUOTE=sidra siyal;506307][B]PRECIS 2010[/B]
Of all the characteristics of ordinary human nature envy is the most unfortunate; not only does the envious person wish to inflict misfortune and do so whenever he can with impunity, but he is also himself rendered unhappy by envy. Instead of deriving pleasure from what he has, he derives pain from what others have. If he can, he deprives others of their advantages, which to him is as desirable as it would be to secure the same advantages himself. If this passion is allowed to run riot it becomes fatal to all excellence, and even to the most useful exercise of exceptional skill. Why should a medical man go to see his patients in a car when the labourer has to walk to his work? Why should the scientific investigator be allowed to spend his time in a warm room when others have to face the inclemency of the elements? Why should a man who possesses some rare talent of great importance to the world be saved from the drudgery of his own housework? To such questions envy finds no answer. Fortunately, however, there is in human nature a compensating passion, namely that of admiration. Whoever wishes to increase human happiness must wish to increase admiration and to diminish envy.
What cure is there for envy? For the saint there is the cure of selflessness, though even in the case of saints envy of other saints is by no means impossible. But, leaving saints out of account, the only cure for envy in the case of ordinary men and women is happiness, and the difficulty is that envy is itself a terrible obstacle to happiness.
But the envious man may say: ‘What is the good of telling me that the cure for envy is happiness? I cannot find happiness while I continue to feel envy, and you tell me that I cannot cease to be envious until I find happiness.’ But real life is never so logical as this. Merely to realize the causes of one’s own envious feeling is to take a long step towards curing them.

[B]TITLE:ENVY-THE FATAL DISEASE OR ENVY-THE MORAL DISEASE CAUSES AND REMEDIES [/B]

Envy is the fatal disease.Envious person desires to mark others with bad karma and seeks pleasure in destroying others.Instead to being thankful for what he has,envious person is busy depriving others of glories.If this obsession is let loose it could turn into a habit or a skill.As every coin has two sides,the fatality of enviousness can be cured by the rehab of admiration or if not then by self realization of one's own flaws.

[B]Corrections are highly welcomed[/B][/QUOTE]
First of all your English is good but you have made some basic mistakes related to grammer like ( busy depriving ) . busy is an intrasitive verb hence it carries preposition. It should be busy in depriving, also try to use appropriate words unlike fatal

agilicious Friday, November 30, 2012 02:34 AM

[QUOTE=sidra siyal;518834][QUOTE=agilicious;518781]

:bow Thanks Agil... !!! I am thinking that we or any other interested candidate should attempt precis of the same year and post it here,that way we would be in a better position to evaluate the gist of it properly...What do you say?? Precis of which year should we attempt next? :happy:



words are less in this precis actually :wub:[/QUOTE]
waiting for mine to be reviewed!

sidra siyal Friday, November 30, 2012 07:24 PM

[QUOTE=agilicious;519589][QUOTE=sidra siyal;518834]
waiting for mine to be reviewed![/QUOTE]
Dear Agil,I didn't attempt my precis yet,I am currently out of home,didn't comment on your precis either because I am intending to evaluate it critically after done with mine.. :$

sidra siyal Friday, November 30, 2012 08:20 PM

Paper 2009 ( Precis)
 
From Plato to Tolstoi art has been accused of exciting our emotions and thus of disturbing the order and harmony of our moral life.” Poetical imagination, according to Plato, waters our experience of lust and anger, of desire and pain, and makes them grow when they ought to starve with drought. “Tolstoi sees in art a source of infection. “ not only in infection,” he says, “a sign of art , but the degree of infectiousness is also the sole measure of excellence in art.” But the flaw in this theory is obvious.Tolstoi suppresses a fundamental moment of art, the moment of form. The aesthetic experience – the experience of contemplation- is a different state of mind from the coolness of our theoretical and the sobriety of our moral judgment. It is filled with the liveliest energies of passion, but passion itself is here transformed both in its nature and in its meaning. Wordsworth defines poetry as “ emotion recollected in tranquility’. But the tranquility we feel in great poetry is not that of recollection. The emotions aroused by the poet do not belong to a remote past. They are “ here”- alive and immediate. We are aware of their full strength, but this strength tends in a new direction. It is rather seen than immediately felt. Our passions are no longer dark and impenetrable powers; they become, as it were, transparent. Shakespear never gives us an aesthetic theory. He does not speculate about the nature of art. Yet in the only passage in which he speaks of the character and functions of dramatic art the whole stress is laid upon this point. “ The purpose of playing,” as Halmet explains, “ both at the first and now, was and is, to hold, as, twere, the mirror up to nature; to show virtue her own feature, scorn her own image, and the very age and body of the time, his form and pressure.” But the image of the passion is not the passion itself. The poet who represents a passion doest not infect us with this passion. At a Sheakspeare play we are not infected with the ambition of Macbeth, with the cruelty of Richard III or with the jealously of Othallo. We are not at the mercy of these emotions; we look through them; we seem to penetrate into their very nature and essence. In this respect Sheakspeare’s theory of dramatic art, if he had such a theory, is in complete agreement with the conception of the fine arts of the great painters and sculptors.
[B]Precis[U][/U][/B]

[B][COLOR="Purple"]From Past, art had been considered reason behind stimulating passions and for that reason cause of moral disturbance. Plato viewed art as a fuel for provoking desires and Tolstoi considered art as contagious.His theory undermined the very nature of it which is passion,different from moral wisdom.The emotions aroused by art are not of past but are of present moment.Shakespear’s work depicted the same truth,at his plays one had never gone deep in to emotions but instead stayed at the moment without moral disturbance.Same theory if true, applies to all forms of art.[/COLOR][/B]

[B]TITLE:NATURE OF ART OR ART AND PASSION[/B]

sidra siyal Friday, November 30, 2012 08:25 PM

[QUOTE=agilicious;519303]There you go paper 2009:

[B]Art: Disease or Cure[/B]

[COLOR="Blue"]There's no society on the face of earth which could fully understand and accept art literally. Evidently, art has always faced criticism even from great philosophers, who have been criticising and accusing it to be a source of emotional wreck when a person needs peace or escape from such emotions. The important thing here is to understand that the emotions and passions that art illuminates in a person are not new, rather it gives clarity and sense of direction to converge these feelings, instead of roaming astray, and channelizes the emotional strength gained thereof. The critics also ignore the beauty part of arts, let alone the pleasure one gets while only watching. Art acts merely as a mirror of any society.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Agil your attempt is mature and in coherrence, Job well done :pipe However, I think it would be better to use some other word instead of word society in beginning,It is depicting the meaning different from the original passage. :blink

sidra siyal Friday, November 30, 2012 08:35 PM

[QUOTE=sidra siyal;519908]Agil your attempt is mature and in coherrence, Job well done :pipe However, I think it would be better to use some other word instead of word society in beginning,It is depicting the meaning different from the original passage. :blink[/QUOTE]

and also was it right to leave details about Plato Shakespeare etc ?? :thinking


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