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shabak Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:15 AM

Razi Abidi's view about essay the most thrilling facts
 
I am posting views of sir Rzi Abidi about essay.......

1; DONT define any issue like democracy it is absurd to define the issue bcoz by doing this u r trying to teach the examiner....

2;Dont give history bcoz dead can not teach the livings....

3;Dont give any religious view in the essay dont quote any hadees or verse of quran in the essay......

4; Dont criticize a person always criticize the system.....

i know these facts will prove very shocking for u all but these are the views of the great sir Razi Abidi.......

ravian156 Saturday, September 29, 2012 12:23 AM

[QUOTE=shabak;485225]I am posting views of sir Rzi Abidi about essay.......

1; DONT define any issue like democracy it is absurd to define the issue bcoz by doing this u r trying to teach the examiner....

2;Dont give history bcoz dead can not teach the livings....

3;Dont give any religious view in the essay dont quote any hadees or verse of quran in the essay......

4; Dont criticize a person always criticize the system.....

i know these facts will prove very shocking for u all but these are the views of the great sir Razi Abidi.......[/QUOTE]
i dont find these facts shocking rather these are some tricks for trade...

Alexkahn Saturday, September 29, 2012 01:58 AM

[QUOTE=shabak;485225]I am posting views of sir Rzi Abidi about essay.......

1; DONT define any issue like democracy it is absurd to define the issue bcoz by doing this u r trying to teach the examiner....

2;Dont give history bcoz dead can not teach the livings....

3;Dont give any religious view in the essay dont quote any hadees or verse of quran in the essay......

4; Dont criticize a person always criticize the system.....

i know these facts will prove very shocking for u all but these are the views of the great sir Razi Abidi.......[/QUOTE]

1.How can one start an essay if the definition is not to be given?Giving answer to a question isn't ''teaching'' otherwise there is no rational in taking written tests.
2.Disagreement on the second point too.
3.What if a topic comes which can't be dealt by separating religion.
4.Agree
These points are shocking to me.I don't know Sir Abidi but I would be happy if someone helps remove my confusion.

SA Haider Saturday, September 29, 2012 02:29 AM

i dont find it useful but just point 4...

first three points dont make any sense..

1st. when u dont define, how can u write about that thing.. the whole essay is based on the type of definition u select.

2nd. essay is not about future :nono

3rd. how can u elaborate when u do not quote strong points no matter religious or literary

sajjad sadique Saturday, September 29, 2012 08:48 AM

dear friend
if there is an essay about "status of woman in Islam", can you tell me how can you avoid quoting Quranic verses in it?

shabak Saturday, September 29, 2012 09:11 AM

now i would like to explain these points as per the views of sir Razi Abidi....
and those who dont know sir Razi for them its enough to say that he is the person who has checked essay papers of css for many year..he is considered as a authority on essay writing

1;dont define
he said'' if we are writing on, for example, disaster management, we would talk about disaster management and those who define disaster and give its different kinds actually, bring disaster for themselves in the essay.....
dont give philosopical views in essay and put the issue according to the views of common people and not scholars bcoz if u give scholarly views then this becoes a report nd not essay
2;Never give history
those who indulge in history,they actually dont have anything to say in present and issue is always discussed regarding present scenario not past

3;dont give religious views; this is the most important point due to which majority of the aspirants fail in essay.Religious point of view is different of different people and if your views and those of examiner are incompatible on religion this causes a big damage.....and most important thing is that any essay is actually discussion and when we quote any hadees or verse of Quran we close the way of discussion bcoz quran and hadees are authentic and no body can challenge them...and last we dont have authority to discuss islam bcoz we are unawre of islam just like a professor of english can not deliver lecture on chemistry similarly we have no authority to talk about islam.......
and always avoid religious essays....

SA Haider Saturday, September 29, 2012 02:58 PM

:) I just consider it as a mean to distract inexperienced and the aspirants.. No offences.


If u r to write on status of democracy what u will describe???

Democracy is what?

Will u start from, "democracy is critical to the political stability in the country and bla bla"

Essay should be like that what a layman can understand what this is all about.

Sarmad Ehsan Saturday, September 29, 2012 03:15 PM

@ shabak
 
You hit the instrumental theme for CSS essay paper, I thought only I reckon these points:)

100% agreed.

You miss one point KISS

Keep it simple sweety
:8:
Instead of high frequency vocab , modern expressions will bring good marks.

Mark my words , this approach will bring good marks.

Bro, let me know words count pls.

AyaanAslam Saturday, September 29, 2012 03:29 PM

Kiss
 
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1; DONT define any issue like democracy it is absurd to define the issue bcoz by doing this u r trying to teach the examiner....
[/QUOTE]

Yes he is right ,there is no need to explain irrelevent things just to increase the length of an essay.for example. we can simple use this defination of democracy "a system of government by the whole population or all the eligible members of a state, typically through elected representatives" but there is no need to explain it furthur. these typical definations are important in order to make your essay impressive.But by just explaining them even if there is no need of it is not a good thing , we should stick with our essay topic and move on.For example if we are adding some facts to our essay like this "according to amnesty international bla bla bla" then i think there is no need to explain the functionality of amnesty international. :P simply KISS

[QUOTE]2;Dont give history bcoz dead can not teach the livings....
[/QUOTE]

this statement is little bit confusing for me. with out giving refrences from history we can not predict future. but as for as i understand is we are not writing an essay about the history so we have to use events in such a way that they will easily merge with our points and also try to use the facts and figures from past , there is no need to write full events for example if we are talking about wars fought by Pakistan then we can say Pakistan faught 4 wars there is no need to explain why these wars were started what was the reasons etc. again simply KISS :P

[QUOTE]3;Dont give any religious view in the essay dont quote any hadees or verse of quran in the essay......
[/QUOTE]

Yes 100% agree , we should not quote exact verses of quran and hadees , but yes we can use like this , According to the Quran, men and women have the same spirit, there is no superiority in the spiritual sense between men and women. but as you see there is no need to give refrences and exact quotes from quran and hadees. My father use this sentence "Her baat her jaga k liay ni hoti or her jaga her baat k liay." so this is not islamiat paper it is an essay of english. again simply KISS :P

[QUOTE]4; Dont criticize a person always criticize the system.....
[/QUOTE]

Again 100% agree.but not in every case , like if you are talking about separation of east pakistan and we can criticize Gen yahya , bhutto and mujeeb ur rehman because they were the responsible people of separation.

KISS = keep it simple stupid (for those who are unaware of this term.)

this is what i think . if you think i am wrong at some point please do tell me i will be very thankful , as i am here to improve my self and help others to improve them selves.

Best Regards

Shooting Star Saturday, September 29, 2012 05:06 PM

[QUOTE=SA Haider;485409]:) I just consider it as a mean to distract inexperienced and the aspirants.. No offences.


If [COLOR=Red]u r[/COLOR] to write on status of democracy what [COLOR=Red]u [/COLOR]will describe???

Democracy is what?

Will [COLOR=Red]u [/COLOR]start from, "democracy is critical to the political stability in the country and bla bla"

Essay should be like that what a layman can understand what this is all about.[/QUOTE]

[FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Black][SIZE=2]Avoid r[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT][FONT=Verdana][COLOR=Black][SIZE=2]egular use of "Netspeak" or other "cute" grammar or spelling (For example: writing "R U a woman?" instead of "Are You a woman?"). [/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT]


Btw,KISS also stands for Keep it short and simple.:))


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