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qublai khan Thursday, May 05, 2016 09:48 AM

[QUOTE=ursula;934161]No, proxies are important part of reshaping the vested interest of western giants.
What do you perceive about operation desert storm in 90, mossadaqs topple from Iran, and most blatant episode of Zias islamism in Pakistan.



Its more than those vested interest.A testimony to the worlds geographer that how much Afg-pk holds some importance to the rest of the world.Did you got it, why war on terror was initiated from Asia's buffer zone.


Not somewhat, but almost, look at the CETO & CENTO, and most importantly Cory we are labelled as terrorist, despite of the fact that all 9/11 perpeteators were Saudi passport holder, again who cares.
History is a pack of lies which we usually agreed upon.



I did study this guy but literally I am telling you he was not the ambessador of Pakistan but capitalist giants.
Yeah, I can suggest you grandchessboard by zbigniew beziznski.:pp
P.S. In case of disagreement I would like to welcome you the most.:haha[/QUOTE]
The first impression of haqqani on one's mind is that he/she is reading biography of some American spy.the biggest sympathizer and well wisher of America. He will cripple the facts and will mould them in a way that phenomenon like truth seems sole inheritance of Americans.


A guy created a thread to write an essay that how to become an independent nation.I say that stay away from issues of other Islamic countries (proxy wars),you will become truly independent country. An Arab sheikh will spend billion of dollars in western casinos but will forget the dying infants in thar,in balochistan,in Waziristan. If Arab world cancel one of its skyscraper's project and invest the money in Muslim world education, it would be the last day of terrorism.

We have emotional/religious attachment with Arab world and some of us even contemplate on one sided pan-islamism,but the reality is that we have to become our own best friends. Believe me we have more enemys than friends.


Brzezinski's many books are on my reading list.

ursula Thursday, May 05, 2016 08:40 PM

[QUOTE=qublai khan;934285]The first impression of haqqani on one's mind is that he/she is reading biography of some American spy.the biggest sympathizer and well wisher of America. He will cripple the facts and will mould them in a way that phenomenon like truth seems sole inheritance of Americans.[/QUOTE]
Sir, first of all you know i am very secular person and i dont bother the stereos and prejudices as prescribed by many. I saw an interview of that guy back in twenty fifteenth;he not only lamented Dr. Kamran Mujahid--the vice chancellor of Punjab University(though i know kamran sahab khud kitne ache ache han), still it was lectured infront of some indian diplomants.His humilited and ridiculous behavior was more than enough for me.
Do you know his sweeping misjudgements related to pak Afghan war against the red army?
Lastly no need to mention his romantic story related to mr.Mansoor?:ph34r:

[QUOTE]A guy created a thread to write an essay that how to become an independent nation.I say that stay away from issues of other Islamic countries (proxy wars),you will become truly independent country. An Arab sheikh will spend billion of dollars in western casinos but will forget the dying infants in thar,in balochistan,in Waziristan. If Arab world cancel one of its skyscraper's project and invest the money in Muslim world education, it would be the last day of terrorism.[/QUOTE]
Definitely, i do agree with you.:mellow:

[QUOTE]We have emotional/religious attachment with Arab world and some of us even contemplate on one sided pan-islamism,but the reality is that we have to become our own best friends. Believe me we have more enemys than friends.[/QUOTE]
Our own best friend, nice joke, but any way accepted for not prolonging the discussion.


[QUOTE]Brzezinski's many books are on my reading list.[/QUOTE]
When you complete my aforementioned book, in that case you can understand what proxy really is!!!!

qublai khan Thursday, May 05, 2016 09:08 PM

[QUOTE=ursula;934534]Sir, first of all you know i am very secular person and i dont bother the stereos and prejudices as prescribed by many. I saw an interview of that guy back in twenty fifteenth;he not only lamented Dr. Kamran Mujahid--the vice chancellor of Punjab University(though i know kamran sahab khud kitne ache ache han), still it was lectured infront of some indian diplomants.His humilited and ridiculous behavior was more than enough for me.
Do you know his sweeping misjudgements related to pak Afghan war against the red army?
Lastly no need to mention his romantic story related to mr.Mansoor?:ph34r:


Definitely, i do agree with you.:mellow:


Our own best friend, nice joke, but any way accepted for not prolonging the discussion.



When you complete my aforementioned book, in that case you can understand what proxy really is!!!![/QUOTE]
'To become our own best friends',hahhah,actually I was enjoying humor inside that line.I wanted to edit it later but......you know.....forum rules......code of Hammurabi.....



Don't know much about Brzezinski. He is realist philosopher, his works center around China containment.

ursula Thursday, May 05, 2016 09:21 PM

[QUOTE=qublai khan;934542]'To become our own best friends',hahhah,actually I was enjoying humor inside that line.I wanted to edit it later but......you know.....forum rules......code of Hammurabi.....[/QUOTE]
sorry dude, my net velocity is competing against the snails speed, one thread @ 15 minutes per post.
Any how i strongly believe that you and i are synch at many points.
Yeah, i got your point.:))



[QUOTE=qublai khan;934542]Don't know much about Brzezinski. He is realist philosopher, his works center around China containment.[/QUOTE]
Philosopher, not exactly!
China containment, bit close.
His chronicles revolves around the mackindar philosophy --the top nazis third reich and RSS emplem holder,
Any how its related to world geography, read it and share it.:blush:

Engr Khan KSA Friday, May 06, 2016 03:10 AM

Can anyone give me some examples of wars in which Pakistan was considered as a 'Proxy'?


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ursula Friday, May 06, 2016 05:18 PM

[QUOTE=Engr Khan KSA;934641]Can anyone give me some examples of wars in which Pakistan was considered as a 'Proxy'?


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dude her war he yahan proxy he!
Those wars in which

[U][B]pak is abettor[/B][/U]

1.Afg-pak war of cold war era
2.Coservative relgious group such as sipha i shihaba and their involvement in india
3.Siachin war
4.pak army and its support to sri lanka on tamil sinhalese against the indian ifluence
5.lastly uzbek turk separatist movement in uyghyr china(though proxy is linked up with the involvement of turkey, ameica and Britain forces as well, but owing to our geographical proximity it is a point of major concern for sino-pak relationships.

[U][B]Indian proxy wars in pak[/B][/U]

1.Mqm and raws cordial relationships
2.indian presence in persian gulf in the form of Chabhar port(let me tell you previous days indian spy was also arrested from iranian border)
3.Indian presence in afghanistan and if i am not wrong 24 counselated at durand line
4.The most important one --Dhaka debacle in 1970s
:vic

Engr Khan KSA Friday, May 06, 2016 09:42 PM

[QUOTE=ursula;934797]dude her war he yahan proxy he!

Those wars in which



[U][B]pak is abettor[/B][/U]



1.Afg-pak war of cold war era

2.Coservative relgious group such as sipha i shihaba and their involvement in india

3.Siachin war

4.pak army and its support to sri lanka on tamil sinhalese against the indian ifluence

5.lastly uzbek turk separatist movement in uyghyr china(though proxy is linked up with the involvement of turkey, ameica and Britain forces as well, but owing to our geographical proximity it is a point of major concern for sino-pak relationships.



[U][B]Indian proxy wars in pak[/B][/U]



1.Mqm and raws cordial relationships

2.indian presence in persian gulf in the form of Chabhar port(let me tell you previous days indian spy was also arrested from iranian border)

3.Indian presence in afghanistan and if i am not wrong 24 counselated at durand line

4.The most important one --Dhaka debacle in 1970s

:vic[/QUOTE]



First of all thanks. Actually I want to know that what questions the examiner can ask? If the question comes like the "proxy wars in Pakistan: a role of external element. Discuss" what should we will write?


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