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Faiza Rajput Friday, June 03, 2016 10:17 AM

Saudia's interest in Afghanistan during Soviet invasion
 
Dear Members, Please anyone answer my confusion that why saudi Arabia was so much interested in Afghanistan during soviet invasion and spent so much money during this war. Obviously helping a Muslim country was just a cover. There must be some hidden agenda or strategic interest. Please make it clear?????

Nisar Shah Bukhari Friday, June 03, 2016 10:45 AM

Because, at that time there was a Communist government in Afghanistan. So KSA helped foster the rise of the Taliban largely to serve as a proxy force against Afghanistan's Soviet leadership. But Saudi Arabia also supported the radical Islamic militants to counter Iran. This strategy also helped KSA to extend its influence in the region.

Faiza Rajput Friday, June 03, 2016 11:13 AM

[QUOTE=Nisar Shah Bukhari;941924]Because, at that time there was a Communist government in Afghanistan. So KSA helped foster the rise of the Taliban largely to serve as a proxy force against Afghanistan's Soviet leadership. But Saudi Arabia also supported the radical Islamic militants to counter Iran. This strategy also helped KSA to extend its influence in the region.[/QUOTE]
If KSA was trying to use Afghan as its proxy against Iran, What was Iran's strategy??? Moreover, what was India doing during all this period. I never read anywhere anything about either Iran or India.....

Nisar Shah Bukhari Friday, June 03, 2016 11:48 AM

KSA used Afghan mujaheddin to counter Soviet expansion in Afghanistan not Iran as there was communist regime in Afghanistan. It was part of cold war. But KSA also wanted to curb Iranian influence in the region. At that time US supported Iranian regime was under threat by Khomeini. moreover, India was part of NAM. so neutral.

Faiza Rajput Friday, June 03, 2016 12:31 PM

[QUOTE=Nisar Shah Bukhari;941944]KSA used Afghan mujaheddin to counter Soviet expansion in Afghanistan not Iran as there was communist regime in Afghanistan. It was part of cold war. But KSA also wanted to curb Iranian influence in the region. At that time US supported Iranian regime was under threat by Khomeini. moreover, India was part of NAM. so neutral.[/QUOTE]
India was neutral as he is giving Pakistan opportunity of extending its influence in Afghanistan on plate????? I don't understand this point....

AR ZAIDI Friday, June 03, 2016 12:58 PM

There were basically two hidden interests of KSA due to which she invested colossal resources in Afghanistan non state actors though this place was not in proximity to her
1 : KSA wanted to promote the philosophy of Wahabism in the entire region in general and CARs countries in specific and afhganistan could serve the best to achieve that because its a gateway to central asian countries
2 : Definitely Iran which has not good diplomatic relation with KSA and both are in race of countering each other agendas just like PAK vs india

Faiza Rajput Friday, June 03, 2016 01:04 PM

[QUOTE=AR ZAIDI;941963]There were basically two hidden interests of KSA due to which she invested colossal resources in Afghanistan non state actors though this place was not in proximity to her
1 : KSA wanted to promote the philosophy of Wahabism in the entire region in general and CARs countries in specific and afhganistan could serve the best to achieve that because its a gateway to central asian countries
2 : Definitely Iran which has not good diplomatic relation with KSA and both are in race of countering each other agendas just like PAK vs india[/QUOTE]
Thank you for sharing your view....

Nisar Shah Bukhari Friday, June 03, 2016 01:07 PM

Yes during cold war era, India remained neutral and was leading player of N.A.M. This was not about Pakistan's extending influence in Afghanistan. It was a Great game largely about Capitalist US vs Communist Soviet. Pakistan joined US Camp in order to get its favor in terms of military and economy. Pakistan was used to secure US interest in the region. On other hand, India had good relations with Afghanistan during all regimes except Taliban regime.

Faiza Rajput Friday, June 03, 2016 01:10 PM

[QUOTE=Nisar Shah Bukhari;941966]Yes during cold war era, India remained neutral and was leading player of N.A.M. This was not about Pakistan's extending influence in Afghanistan. It was a Great game largely about Capitalist US vs Communist Soviet. Pakistan joined US Camp in order to get its favor in terms of military and economy. Pakistan was used to secure US interest in the region. On other hand, India had good relations with Afghanistan during all regimes except Taliban regime.[/QUOTE]
Thank you for sharing your view....

ursula Saturday, June 04, 2016 12:09 AM

[QUOTE=faiza rajput;941921]Dear Members, Please anyone answer my confusion that why saudi Arabia was so much interested in Afghanistan during soviet invasion and spent so much money during this war. Obviously helping a Muslim country was just a cover. There must be some hidden agenda or strategic interest. Please make it clear?????[/QUOTE]

Hey mam,
Nowadays I am reading a book " war of Afghanistan by peter tomson of public affairs".
I suppose it could be a good stuff to be mentioned here.
Why KSA was interested in Afghan war is a long debate and here I would like to mention some of very few.
Iran and KSA are known in American defence circle as two important pillars of middle eastern reagion.you know we talk about[B] OPEC=KSA+IRAN.[/B]
That means worlds resources and important maritime supremacy without Persian gulf is a naive term with a naive explanation.

Now come to my essay, that I have had attempted in ce-16. I did mention "wilsonian......" just check out ididmt remember exactly.I.e. Grand middle east concept and primacy at heartland theory.By making proxy players of iran against ksa, permanent seed of destruction were sowed in middle east.Since, puppet ruler Shah of iran was assisted to stab the Iraqi anti saddam forces like kurds and when kurds leader adopted the path of violence KSA was ....
(Its too long story)
Anyhow, it ended at petrodollar politics and I have already mentioned that Iran and kSA were key player, while house of sauds are purely monarch, khomeni in Iran were anti salafites thus permanent ethnic cauldron was set in(you can consult berzizinskis grand primacy that how they had had planned that boiling sectarian pot.

When it comes to geopolitical definations then remember Afghanistan is just a scapegoat,Pakistan because of its geostrategic significance, ethnolinguistic attachments and ofcaurse our military push ups are something that Saudis desperately needed keeping in view of its conflict with yeman, syria, lebanon and to some extent with israel:while, Foster Dulles and his cousin led companies like David Rockefeller knew how to reap the maximum benefits out of such plots.king al Faisal signed petrodollar agreements and in return house of Arab sheikhdoms were secured from alawites attack.


Using the nazis propaganda machines and having a tactics of OSS(three special bridges were prepared by three different releigous fanats--i mean, mechinaries from Christians, assassins from Muslims(suicide bombers), and Zions from Jews.

Red army was a menance, its because they had their own vested imterest:while, ksa had already established its romantic affairs with EXXON,MOBIL,BP, and Shell companies.
Mossadaq(my favourite leader) did nothing except kicked out these leeches to move out of the Iranian territory, much like the same done by Fiedel castro in Cuba.
Saudis knew that had there been mossadaa in Iran or tudeh party activist, Riyadh would no more bd saved without such revolutions.For that purpose a planned assessins named by us Al-qaeda anx Taliban were installed. And in order to finance the war opium production was cultivated, adding insult to the injury a permanent scar of gulbadin hikmatyar and his fanactism had left on afg-pak face in the form of acid throwing incidences on women's faces, burning of girls school incidences, obsessive and medical islamism, and anti nationalistic pan utopian religious practices like contemporary isl led crisis.

Anyhow, I made the story too short, I didactly studied it from all aspects and if you want some more explanation or question out of my explanation, feel free to ask me.
P.s. I am bit tired that's why I am posting it without perviewing it and I hope you would ignore my all mistakes.:mellow:


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