Share ur success story for CSS 2010
 

[B] Share ur experience for CSS 2010[/B]


[B]Hope all of u will be fine by grace of God. It is requested to share ur success story and ur valuable tips for Css 2010. It will of great help for all of us.

Waiting for ur response, come forward and guide us.[/B]


[B]Regards,
Zoyee[/B]

Be different,logical,analytical and above all remember Allah

@ Zoyee and other css 2010 aspirants:

I would advise you people to keep trying and do not lose heart even under the most dire circumstances. My success is all blessing of Allah; otherwise i would have never imagined to achieve this milestone. Its been a memorable experience. You got to have confidence in urself that you can do it. Never think that its impossible, have faith in Allah. More than anything it is your own self-belief that can help you people to keep trying. I am giving you people my personal example that i wasted 1 full year of study in F.Sc 1st Year. That was the most terrible time of my life in 1998. I left the college and studies altogether. I saw the ups and downs on life. I had to listen to lot of criticism. Then i regathered my courage and started studies again. Then i did my B.Sc Chemical Engg in 2006. I started preparation for css in 2008 and gave 1 year to preparation. 1 year, average 14 hours of study daily. I enjoyed reading books and never looked back. Its all due to Allah's blessing. My css is dedicated to one person who is closest to my heart. So my dear frends keep trying, dont panic and Inshallah you will succeed. I am personally here to help all my forum friends.

tips for css
 

i would advise all candidates of 2010 to prepare atleast about twenty long essays, and for composition paper solve out all past papers atleast papers of twenty five years as i did and it worked.

prepare short or points notes of every subject as there will be little time during exams to go through comprehensive notes or books.

Regards

Need Guidence
 

Respected Sir, I need guidence for CSS exam. Please give me some advises that how should I take the start. Means that from which subject should I take the start. I'll be thankfull.

@ Zoyee:

I think the management of information and knowledge u have is far more important than having a bag full of facts and figures :thinking....if u know where to use what, believe me, no one can stop u from being successful.....

:onesecThis does not mean that u should avoid all the standard stuff like quotations, references, poetry, facts and figures....but u should be able to interlink them all and able to put them into meaningful answers.

As far as the success story is concerned....it isn't the end yet. v have but reached only a third of the distance. a long way yet to go....interview, final result and allocations. so, i would request u to pray for all the candidates.

Every new candidate who wants to start study needs first of all to concentrate on his English, Secondly development of english expression is highly necessary. you need to write atleast one essay everyday on any topic, it will boost your expression power.

for optionals select topics and then study them comprehensively.


Regards

@ Noor Ul Haq;

If we write, Essay daily, when we will get time to study other subjects, :/
Not working my side. I am studying since august. I have not enough time to go for lengthy efforts.

Just let me know guys, Did you used Headings in ESSAY PAPER?
I am not talking about OUTLINE, I am asking Sub Headings in Essay.

Kindly answer;

Regards,

[QUOTE=bunko;152829]@ Noor Ul Haq;

If we write, Essay daily, when we will get time to study other subjects, :/
Not working my side. I am studying since august. I have not enough time to go for lengthy efforts.

Just let me know guys, Did you used Headings in ESSAY PAPER?
I am not talking about OUTLINE, I am asking Sub Headings in Essay.

Kindly answer;

Regards,[/QUOTE]

Yaar Bunko,
For so much time you have been entangled about the HEADING issue.

So my dear Adda, according to Sir Razi Abidi (a very famous teacher)
- Heading should NOT be the part of Essay BODY.

- Write an outline before writing an Essay

- Strictly follow the sequence of outline

- For each of your point in outline there should be a paragraph describing it

Still, if you are confused please let me know :)

@ Aarizahmed;

Thanks brother, Yes :) The reason behind my confusion is,

1) My two friends, Who passed CSS, They used Headings in their Essay.
2) This year, My another friend, Used headings in essay and got 51 marks.
3) Prof. Ali Rizi ( Very Good English Teacher ) prohibit to use any type of headings in essay.

So Question in my mind is, If Prof. Strictly prohibit to use headings in Essay, Than how come these guys pass their Essay Exam. :/

So thats Why, I gradually ask this questions in this forum to evaluate the majority.
Anywayz, Thanks for Help!


Regards,

Dear Bunko,

Sir Razi advises according to his vast experience. Each year dozens of his students qualify CSS. BTW, its not the last word. If you are willing to use headings, then go ahead. Phir na kehna k pehlay bataya kiyon nhn ;)

well this is kind of confusing......... sum guys say do it sum say don't but i really think one should go for headings because if u r really writing a 30-35 page essay ......it would help examiner to evaluate what exactly is written.......he is not really access a civil service paper of pakistan solely on the basis of outlines !!! ..... and i would even say that most depends on the material u have written !!!

[QUOTE=bunko;152950]@ Aarizahmed;

Thanks brother, Yes :) The reason behind my confusion is,

1) My two friends, Who passed CSS, They used Headings in their Essay.
2) This year, My another friend, Used headings in essay and got 51 marks.
3) Prof. Ali Rizi ( Very Good English Teacher ) prohibit to use any type of headings in essay.

So Question in my mind is, If Prof. Strictly prohibit to use headings in Essay, Than how come these guys pass their Essay Exam. :/

So thats Why, I gradually ask this questions in this forum to evaluate the majority.
Anywayz, Thanks for Help!


Regards,[/QUOTE]

well i think headings in essay is not a great idea,if someone has passed despite heading it only means that headings or no headings ,the content matters alot and headings do not solely bring you down to the level of failure in essay paper.

I dint use headings at all in essay and scored 61 ,last year ofcourse:pp

Essays dont have headings they should be

Crisp
Outlined
Precise
full of Cogent Content


ALSO length does not matter as much as it may seem,I remeber we had instructions to write 4000 words and i could write around 1500-2000 words essay and dint drag it becasue i dint have more to offer on that subject at that instant and still scored reasonably.Its kind of a trap one feels in exam that he/she is writing new things but actually are just putting across the same thing in a slightly different manner ,so do read your essay as you attempt it from time to time ,say after you have written 3-4 pages,go through it to check relevance and avoid repetition.
Avoid repitition specially repitition usually done for the sake of increasing the volume.

[QUOTE=Syed Saadat;152957]well i think headings in essay is not a great idea,if someone has passed despite heading it only means that headings or no headings.

I dint use headings at all in essay and scored 61 ,last year ofcourse:pp

Essays dont have headings they should be

Crisp
Outlined
Precise
full of Cogent Content

ALSO length does not matter as much as it may seem,I remeber we had instructions to write 4000 words and i could write around 1500-2000 words.[/QUOTE]

I totally agree with Mr Saadat.
Technically headings are not part of an essay. They may be used to show separate parts of a literary paper, research paper, news report, or even a simple question.
When you write an outline, it gives the whole picture of your essay in a nutshell. You don't need to write headings again. They would just create more hurdles and confusion in the conformity and coherence of thought presented in the essay.
You must go through your essay with your content and matter along with your original sentence structuring (expression). In other words an essay can be divided into these parts: Content (wording), Concept (premise, what is your logic or the point on which you have framed your ideas), Coherence (conformity of thought), References (quotations, facts and figures, etc) and Syntaxing (expression, your language).
I believe one should have a good control of all these factors to produce good essays.

[QUOTE=bunko;152829]@ Noor Ul Haq;

If we write, Essay daily, when we will get time to study other subjects, :/
Not working my side. I am studying since august. I have not enough time to go for lengthy efforts.

Just let me know guys, Did you used Headings in ESSAY PAPER?
I am not talking about OUTLINE, I am asking Sub Headings in Essay.

Kindly answer;

Regards,[/QUOTE]

You need to spare time for it, Other subjects too need your engilsh expression so it is corelative with every subject.
I did not use headings and sub headings in essay.
the material inside essay and your english means much more than your headings or styles.

Regards

Thanks All !

So Conclusion is, We should not use Headings or Sub-Headings and Length of the essay doesn't matter, what matter is your qualitative approach of writing.For the Coherent of paragraph using of transition words and for the improvement of essay facts and figures is compulsory which is also mentioned in FPSC requirement of Essay paper.

InshAllah will do my best to get good marks,
Hope your recommendations will be beneficial for us. Amen!


Regards,:oo

@ All.

Well i myself used headings in the essay paper and passed. I only used headings of the points that i mentioned in the outline. I think if you are writing a 25 page essay then how could the examiner come to know what you are writing. I mean it becomes monotonous that you keep writing without giving the examiner a fair idea of whats going on. I think one should leave 2 pages for the outline but write the outline only after finishing the essay. If you write the outline first then it becomes difficult to follow it. You must have an outline in your mind and try to follow it, then after finishing the essay write the outline on the first 2 pages that you left blank.

[QUOTE=shallowwater;153084]@ All.

Well i myself used headings in the essay paper and passed. I only used headings of the points that i mentioned in the outline..[/QUOTE]

Thats what I am worried about. how come essay checker know, Which information is where, on this basis it is fair chance that checker MIGHT use his assumptions about the essay quality and judge according to just reading few paragraph and give marks, So chance of Pass and Fail ratio is 50:50%

However, if we use headings of the points that we mentioned in outline can fascinate the checker to evaluate other paragraphs while giving numbers. According to me as being a financial student, 60:40% ratio here.


@ Shallow Water; Dear you appeared as a light in darkness for me :angle. Please when ever you get your marks, Please let us know about it.


Thank you! :blink


Regards,

@ Bunko.

I would definitely tell you abt my marks in the essay paper. I think headings are not an issue; what matters is the material that you are providing. I used headings in all the questions in the exam; not only in the essay. Its not a story that you keep writing it without headings. I mean first you write an introduction then you come to the body of the essay; who will tell the examiner where the outline ends and the body starts? Even in the body of the essay first suppose i wrote abt the rights of women in islam, then i wrote the duties of women in islam. If headings are not used then everything would get mixed up. Isn't it??

Respected Shallow water. Salam... I want to ask dat shud i strictly follow the syllabus outline provided for subjects like everyday science, pak aff., islamiat, and my chosen optionals??? or is extended study required?? i have recently begun preping.... And plzzz i need some booster doses of confidence and encouragement.... as most of the time i feel lazy nd sleepy... :(( Need ur help urgently...

[QUOTE=Sabeen Amjad;153240]Respected Shallow water. Salam... I want to ask dat shud i strictly follow the syllabus outline provided for subjects like everyday science, pak aff., islamiat, and my chosen optionals??? or is extended study required?? i have recently begun preping.... And plzzz i need some booster doses of confidence and encouragement.... as most of the time i feel lazy nd sleepy... :(( Need ur help urgently...[/QUOTE]

Dear Sabeen Amjad,


First ask yourself, You want to see yourself working under a harsh environment and abused by your seniors as working in private sector? Or You want to see yourself at elite position to work not only for yourself but also for the betterment of society of having a power which is blessed by Almighty ALLAH to serve humanity as a CSP officer?

Don't get lazy. Yes ! indeed you are bit late, but not very late to catch the train. few things i recommend you to pass through CSS. If you will follow my advice, I guarantee your success.

1) Switch off your cell phone
2) Put one thing in your mind, that passing CSS is the only solution of your problem
3) Read IMP threads of Compulsory and optional Subjects from CSS forum.
4) Daily 10-12 Hours preparation but with attentive mind.
5) Make notes of every thing you learned, even single line and idioms.
6) [COLOR="Red"]Last but not least, Start offering NEMAZ, the most compulsory to become successful not in this worldly life but hereafter.[/COLOR]

Now Me, I started preparation since August, AlhamDulliAllah i have covered whole Course of 1200 marks. Now i am repeating everything. I did this in between August to October, it took me just three months. You can also do it. You have four months.

Get these Books, Do NOT BUY any other book than these

EDS`````````` = Prof. Akram Kashmiri ( I Covered EDS in 5 Days )
P.Affair``````` = Ikram Rabani and Get notes of Virtual University ( I covered in 6 Days )
C.Affairs`````` = Read Dawn and C.AFFAIR section of CSS forum.
English``````` = Read, Just Read because it will help to write better.
Precise & Composition = Buy R.Dhillion and Exploring the English enough to get good marks.

But again, All these things are effective when you offer Nemaz daily.


Regards

@ Sabeen Amjad.

I think if you can cover the syllabus for all those subjects that would be good enough, but you must be well prepared for all sort of questions. See the Islamiat paper 2009 which was quite demanding. I think you must consult 1 or 2 books on every subject to be successful. Plus Bunko has given some really good information related to books, so do follow it.

@Bunko

Brother, Although me is also on your side as for as confusion is concerned. On the contrast, I knew by many of people, headings should be avoided becuase it restricts you from delivering different arguments and details.

You should consult from your csp friends, what kind of "ESSAY" they had written because, it might be possible they used the headings in ECONOMICS related essays where to some extent it makes sense.
Pls, share your views after consulting which, I mentioned here.

Regards,

To quench your thirst for knowledge is actually to increase the wealth of knowledge and knowhow. I add my little gained experience as thus.
work hard and go on with the saying that be optimistic and never be pessimestic bcz the passimestic is the one who finds difficulties in opportunities and the optimistic always finds out opportunitie and success in difficulties. keep up working hard, be slective in ur preparation for css be superior and unique from the crowd.

I had done Masters in English Literature before clearing the CSS Exams and I would advise you not to use headings in the essay paper.When you start your essay be like an artist who is sketching a given scenario on the canvas. Try to be illustrative.In the middle of the essay sound like an advocate, giving reasons, logic,facts, figures etc to support your point of view. At the end be like a judge who sums up the whole argument, sounding wise, judicious, truthful etc.

[QUOTE=Kanwal Ali;153497]I had done Masters in English Literature before clearing the CSS Exams and I would advise you not to use headings in the essay paper.When you start your essay be like an artist who is sketching a given scenario on the canvas. Try to be illustrative.In the middle of the essay sound like an advocate, giving reasons, logic,facts, figures etc to support your point of view. At the end be like a judge who sums up the whole argument, sounding wise, judicious, truthful etc.[/QUOTE]
is there any logic in not using the headings? ok ! headings are not good, but why Afshan Manzoor uses headings in her essays? are headings going to bite the examiner?whether this is a dogma of bacon?
Q 1.what is the logic behind that?

@ bunko and bhutto
If thats all you want to hear, use headings. I don't know why just use them. :happy:?
I mean come on, you invited the advises, Right? There came many sense making, like from Kanwal Ali, Aarizahmed and other. As for as checker knowing what is where issue is concerned, I suppose checkers develop a whole picture of essay when they read one. There are some requirments of an essay, meet them and score. Good luck.

i want to ask senior members to plz tel me if my choice for optional subjects is ryt or no
i want to choose
statistics 100
arabic 200
philosophy200
journalism 100
plz help

[QUOTE=shallowwater;153115]@ Bunko.

I would definitely tell you abt my marks in the essay paper. I think headings are not an issue; what matters is the material that you are providing. I used headings in all the questions in the exam; not only in the essay. Its not a story that you keep writing it without headings. I mean first you write an introduction then you come to the body of the essay; who will tell the examiner where the outline ends and the body starts? Even in the body of the essay first suppose i wrote abt the rights of women in islam, then i wrote the duties of women in islam. If headings are not used then everything would get mixed up. Isn't it??[/QUOTE]


Brother,

In my opinion, let me correct if I was wrong.

1. Writing an essay on social issue do'nt required headings. (because gist of essay matters not headings while writing on social issues)
2. Headings required if we are writing on Financial/Economic Topics as it will ease the checker to evaluate.
3. Writing on essay regarding islam/beliefs etc. like women in islam can be wrote by using HEADINGS as it will definately ease checker and provide some room to evaluate.

Conclusion:

For writing on Economic,financial issues required essay and as far as islamic issues are concerned, one can use headings even can ignore it Ratio 50:50 but on the other hand, Social issues does'nt required headings.

Please, seniors correct me, if i am wrong. I have just mentioned what I come to know after asking from different friends.

well headings or no headings...create your own impression and style and follow that. Atleast that's what i believe in!!!

Remember, a living fish swims against the current! :)

Anyways what amazes me is the frequent references being made to the length of an essay being 25 pages. is it sides or pages?

For any topic you could write an essay worth a 100 pages, but the goal is not to produce a paper weighing kgs! i mean if you could explain everything that is on your mind in 10 to 15 pages, that should suffice!!!

Quality rather than Quantity!

To Bunko
 

I hav read most of ur posts and i think i realy like ur courag and i m realy impress with u prep and can u plz let me knw ur background and ur opt sub and i wana start my prep would u lik to help me in my startings.

[QUOTE=hinanazar;154299]I hav read most of ur posts and i think i realy like ur courag and i m realy impress with u prep and can u plz let me knw ur background and ur opt sub and i wana start my prep would u lik to help me in my startings.[/QUOTE]

Dear,

Asalam-o-Alikum

Thanks for appreciating me. But i don't think i am half done yet, Enough things to do. And Off course, I will help you at every corner in return of your prayers.

About my Optionals and Background, You can check my profile. And if you read my most of the posts, then same goes to you what i posted for others. Just start preparation, Don't wait for tomorrow. Adopt the policy of " Now or Never "


Regards,

Asslam-o-alaikum to all!
First of all.. Congrats to all those people who are in a phase of life, right now, which is a dream for many people here :)
kindly plz guide me about my optional subjects.
they are:
Political science
IR
Constitutional Law
British history

many people said that these subjects were not scoring in 2009 and i am so worried :(
kindly suggest me if i am supposed to change any subject and as time is very short now so subjects which i can opt now easily are:
Indo-pak History
International Law
Urdu
i dont know much about urdu but i saw its syllebus and i found it very interesting.
kindly tell me its scoring or not and i should opt it or not.
Plz Plz help me :(

I've also opted for Political science and Con law and have even completed its course but its giving me jitters...NOT SCORING is what I hear everytime.

[QUOTE=Imadafridi;154761]I've also opted for Political science and Con law and have even completed its course but its giving me jitters...NOT SCORING is what I hear everytime.[/QUOTE]
exactly... its exactly the same answer i got from many people... n now... no one is ready to do a single post here for helping :( logo!!! aik nazar daikh do plz :(

Time's too short now and can't opt out anymore,would prefer improving my knowledge of these two subjects.

[QUOTE=Imadafridi;154811]Time's too short now and can't opt out anymore,would prefer improving my knowledge of these two subjects.[/QUOTE]
but what about my british history... i can change atleast this subject easily...

i guess if keeping 2009 trend in view da most viable option 4 u ll be indo pak history. in 09 dere has been a top score of atleast 160 which i knw nd i,ve seen many in da range 130-140. so dats a feasible option i guess. also isl history has been scoring beyond ones imagination going upto 188. so i guess dere z enough tym 2 switch atleast one subject

I've already covered the course of Political science and constitutional law,thats the problem.

Indian history
 

ONly first paper of indian history needs to be prepared, the second paper is already the same as Pakistan affairs. so i think its prep is never a difficult task.

Political science isnt scoring subject, but it depends upon ur preparation if u produce well i dont think u wll be awarded low score. a friend of mine last year had scored one forty in political science