People from Gujar khaan living in london, other in remote area's crooks and elite who have one leg in Pakistan and other in london, or USA.

and the u say they r from small area. for example last time the girl second topper, was from UK and was completely schooled in UK but she robed seat from the poor of Punjab.

now u'll say she was from village of Punjab! ha ha ha

elite of sindh, kpk, balochistan r studying in islamabad, lahore, and then they we r topper from remote area! ha ha

@ Versatile bhutto.

Ap ka challenge qabool. Inshallah i'll work hard and get allocated in 2nd or 3rd attempt. I am not educated in U.K or Canada. I am proud to be Pakistani. But one day i will take up this issue with higher authorities. You cannot allocate a person on 600th merit and deny a person on 300th merit. What will the non.allocated person feel when all his hard work will come to nothing?
Kea Punjab ka ghareeb, ghareeb nahi?
Kea Punjab mein koi berozgar nahi?
Kea Punjab k logon ko sab kuch free milta hai?
Kea Punjab mein darakhton pe paisay lage hain?
Kea Punjab k logon ko sirf is liye allocate nahi kiya jae ga ku k un k marx zayada hain lekin qismat kharab hai?

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@ALL

I agree with Faseeh that there should be no quota system in any walk of life.

@Versatile Bhutto and Yusufzai

You are basing your argument on the assumption that everyone who has qualified from Punjab belongs to the elite class. I bet you more than 80% of the people from Punjab are from lower middle class or even worst. And one thing more, i know people who belong to more remote, under developed and volatile areas in the world than any in Pakistan, who have achieved more success than people who live in the most posh communities of the world. Lastly no hard feelings, i wish you all the success.

You guys didn't know the rule prior to competing? (I bet ya guys knew it, so why complain now)
If you guys haven't succeeded in getting into some occupational group then don't complain, just take ur time, gather urself nd prepare for next one. Good luck for urz next attempt.

The rulez re (nd were) clear dear friends, either compete or don't but don't complain or make noise .

my dear brother, no fight whatever punjab has share it receives, moreover it also gets more from open merit.
Sindh earn more revenew but get according to population quota!
dear, this all is system, which we should follow.
no, more fuda ji!

@ All.

Perhaps this discussion is endless and will take us no where. The rules are there and we have to compete within these rules. I didnt mean to hurt anyone rather i was saying that rules should be based totally on merit.

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@Yusafzai

First of all this is a forum where people discuss and share their point of view. Nobody is complaining here. You can't stop me from expressing my opinion.

Secondly, neither did i appear in 2009 nor my domicile is from Punjab. I am from AJK.

Thirdly, i just wanted to hear what you said. You don't have any convincing reason to support your argument.

Lastly, take it easy. I won't snatch your position from you.

Quota system was introduced by Bhutto in 1973. Initially, it was to be implemented for 25 years to bring the backward areas of Sindh, Balochistan and K.P in streamline due to lack of proper education system. sNawaz Sharif Government revived the quota system in 1998 for their political benefits. We talk about uniform education policy in all corners of our beloved country and then job placement on quota system is a clear discrimination. Now, the number of Universities has increased in all the provinces. So, open merit should be given priority. Allocation on basis of domicile is unfortunate.

Pakistan is no doubt a federation and you people know federation is based on voluntary association of different regions. You people are well educated and know very well provinces joined the federation with referendum or majority consensus. All the provinces were guaranteed for protection of their rights, due representation in the parliament, civil service and in army to maintain the balance and avoid accumulation of power in the hands of one province.

Theoretically quota system should be abolished but practically its nothing to do with reality. All the provinces are part of the federation and they must have due representation in every department of state. Balochistan issue and similarly Sindh's frustration is all due to that disparities and instead of adding salt to their injuries steps should be taken to heal the wounds of backward provinces and they should be facilitated by accepting their due representation in the affairs of the State.

Although it is a far cry to abolish the quota system in CSS and other services but if you people bent upon your stance that remember same alleged injustices is done in the seats of National Assembly. Distribution of seats should be abolished and there should be equal competition throughout the country. Moreover, if you speak about justice in the state then quota system is the worst injustice, seats should be equally distributed among the units of the federation as of senate that is equal distribution e.g if there are 100 seats each province should get 22 seats, it will be true justice in a federation to avoid secessionist movements like that in Balochistan.

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such a long, tiring n endless round of arguments and counter arguments... anyways this whole idea was not sound in the frist place....i mean you have attempted css not pcs or any other competitive exam so if you flunk or don't do so well in css that does not mean you should automatically be awared a seat somewhere elx...to me a good cook is not necessarily a good driver as well...


try to work harders guys.....and the quicker you identify the "deltas" in your preparation and work harder the next time....and secondly never use this cream of Pakistan word again.....we as Pakistanis are all the cream of the nation ....our roles may differ some small other large but we all contribute...and nobody has any right to feel superior in any way other than in piety and taqwa.....that reminds me about an official statement released by fpsc probably which stated that the cream of the nation seems uninterested in appearing in CSS anymore

do you remotely intend to state that a government college in vehari has the same education standard as GC lahore or that a guy in Khuzdar will have an overall more, so called knowledge than a guy living in Islamabad. common dude wake up to the reality!! and haan i dun say it is impossible it is juss improbable...quota system should be there till the time you have a uniform standard of education and not just rely of facts and figures and counting number of colleges, and universities :P

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