@ Zohaib:
 

[B]Zohaib Mushtaq Baloch
(Expecting Allocation in DMG)
(Probably 38th Commons)[/B]

Mara kia baat kertay ho??? Ma'shaAllah you are on 16th Position and still talking about expectations and probabilities :P Dear You are confirmed as a DMG Officer InshaAllah.
It is I, who is on the verge of DMG or FSP...

this is not the case the woman reserve qouta is still 10% and i wonder how can she win the case if she can not come up on merit for allocation.....i think supreme court can not order FPSC to change their rules for a single female candidate......and if woman quota is enhnced it will be beneficial for 2009 batch not for 2008 batch....how can they change a rule in 2010 and then implement it on the precedent years batches....

[COLOR="SeaGreen"][B]It is too late.........[/B][/COLOR]

[COLOR="RoyalBlue"][B] Allocations have been delayed due to litigations but when would the process be over???Daily a new rumor is heard...

It is said it will be announced before Eid...............But my conjecture is that it will be made public after Eid..
[/B][/COLOR]

[COLOR="DarkRed"][B]I wish all the qualifiers all the best.[/B][/COLOR]

[B]@Naeem Sandhu,[/B]

My dear friend thanks for your best wishes and sincerely pray that you get your choice department.

[B]@ Miss Tayyaba,[/B]

Your friend has petitioned that first of all merit seats be filled and then the provincial seats after that women quota be applied on left over women candidates. Earlier, the women who came up on merit of say FSP in provincial quota were transferred to women quota if they would be falling in better group keeping in view their preference. Your friend insisted that the general seat vacated by the woman joining better group in women quota must be filled by another women. Previously, since eligible women were transferred to women seats, their seats in open merit were filled by next in merit irrespective of the fact that the candidate is a male or a female.Now since the seats will be retained by women so more women will get the chance to be allocated.Your friend has won the case on this conjecture and yes the court has directed FPSC to change the way it allocates the women candidates and it has directed Secretary FPSC to comply and implement with in 15 days i.e before 10th Septemeber 2010. SInce their are no vacancies for them to be adjusted, therefore, the male candidates were asked to vacate, however, since this is also unjustified, therefore new vacancies will be created for them.

Secondly, The FPSC and ESTAB are trying to uphold merit because in your friend's case, lady with merit number 304 was allocated Postal Services on women quota in punjab but your friend might have gotten much better group if the women qouta is filled last. [B](Estab and FPSC had worked out the details to save the system and right now i cannot divulge that how they will save the system because I dont want to open it up but Merit will rule supreme) [/B] and all allocations will reflect the merit.

[B]@Spider Man,[/B]

Allocations of CE-2008, rather re-allocations are now being finalized . Our allocations are also under process and it is an unconfirmed report that they are already sent to ESTAB. In my opinion either they are expected before 10th or last week of September.(The efficiency usually drops in Ramadhan especially in the last ten days of the Holy Month.)

Regards,
[B]Zohaib Mushtaq Baloch[/B]

Itne Information Share karnay baad bhe log shukria ada nahein Kartay.

yes Supreme court has directed FPSC to chnage the way it allocates woman candidates not to enhance the quota by 1 or 2% and then compensate nergis Shazia Ch....and u don't need to open anything i have ma own links in establishment and i know each and every thing that what would be their next step.....anyways wish u all the best for allocation and thankx a lot for the precious info u shared....:)

@Miss Tayyaba

Thank you for your best wishes regarding allocations of CE 2009.I also wish you success in every rightful endeavour.

On a side note : The Supreme Court did not direct FPSC to increase women quota rather due to this judgetment, the number of seats on which women can be allocated will increase automatically because more women in general merit means less number of seats taken from women quota which means more seats available to be filled from women reserved seats. I take back my words that 1-2 % seats of women will increase but now i can safely claim that women seats are approximately 20-25 %. Usually 10%-15% women get allocated on general seats and apart from that further 10 % in women quota.

Its a high time that we male candidates also demand a quota because we never have been assigned one on the basis of gender.

Regards,


PS : I am grateful to all those who thanked me even though my comment was just aimed at creating some lighter moments in these days of uncertainity. Thank you all

[QUOTE=zbaloch_204;210428]Itne Information Share karnay baad bhe log shukria ada nahein Kartay.[/QUOTE]
:mellow:Becoz ur Information though apparently correct but is a bad news for most of the members who may lose chance of allocation.

Here i want to ask a question . Is it possible that seats announced for CE-2009 may change in order to give place to women of CE-2008 . Plz reply me if u have some information regarding this...............

@Mr.Honey,
No they will not be adjusted from seats of CE-2009.

whatever the reason maybe, the decision is taking lot of time

Welcome to the world of Bureaucracy where every thing is in the shape of file which moves up and down till the time it is rusted out.

This is the first step towards the reality. I hope you are enjoying it. We are experiencing the same which is experienced by the common people when their files get stuck due to procedural road blocks and this is basically because no body wants to accept responsibility.

When you join Civil Service please take into account their misery.

Allocations are expected immediately after eid or may be within a few days. lets hope for the best.

Query
 

@ Zbaloch and RAZ

Under this new scheme of quota distribution who will be the last girl from Punjab to be allocated?

Regards

@esmeralda
 

Sorry,

Cant predict that i was interested more in timely announcement of allocations.
Anyways, best of luck for your allocation.

wat are the updates regarding allocation ??

[QUOTE=samiullah shaikh;212725]wat are the updates regarding allocation ??[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Today's update from FPSC sources:[/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana] [/FONT][/COLOR]
[COLOR=black][FONT=Verdana]Our allocations are still in pending status not because of absence of FPSC Chairman but due to disputed CE-2008 allocation. Though case was decided on 25th August but FPSC, Establishment, and court have not yet arrived on mutually agreed allocation. Due to this uncertainty FPSC source was not in a position to predict the expected date of CE-2009 allocations. FPSC management seemed in a fix.[/FONT][/COLOR]

I congratulate all the ce-2009 qualifiers. As their training has started since 15-06-2010 followed by 18-06-2010 change. This pre-CSA training can be titled as "HOW THE GOVT PROCEDURES ARE DELAYED AND WHAT WILL BE THE CONTRIBUTION OF NEW BUREAUCRATS TO STRENGTHEN THIS SYSTEM AT LATER STAGE WHEN THEY WILL BE IN POWER".:))

God this wait is killing me!!!!!
 

Plz FPSC this wait is totally excruciating. Announce the allocations!!!!!!!!!!!!:hurt
@Sultan Rahi
Yeah u r right. We have definitely had sum idea how much painful it is for ordinary ppl who have to wait for ages till their files get through, thnx to our laziness and red tapism.We can count it as a lesson learnt n remember not to put others through this ordeal once we reach that place.
Regards.

Dear Friends,

That the allocations have been delayed owing to litigations is correct information......The 2008 case judgement on 25th Aug, was initially a problem as the female was to be adjusted with 2009 CTP. But establishment division is about to announce an extra seat for that candidate.........

Secondly, 2009 candidate's litigations are also a factor in delay of allocations......

Implementation of SC verdict on women’s quota.
LAHORE: The Federal Public Service Commission (FPSC) has asked the Establishment Division to adjust 14 probationers from the 2008 batch who would stand removed from their CSS allocations in the wake of a Supreme Court decision calling for the implementation of 10 per cent quota for women before September 10.
A senior FPSC official told The Express Tribune that the FPSC had clarified that if the Establishment Division failed to comply, the commission would itself make changes in the CSS 2008 allocations list. This, he said, would affect not just the 14 probationers in question, but also all others who have already completed the one-year 37th common training programme (CTP) at the Civil Services Academy (CSA).
The official said that following the SC verdict 14 more women would be accommodated in the CSS 2008 (37th CTP) and 17 in CSS 2009 allocations.
He said that the FPSC would likely send the allocations list for CSS 2009 to the Establishment Division in two days.
The Supreme Court directed the FPSC in the last week of August to change the manner in which it allocated the women candidates in CSS. It ordered the FPSC secretary to implement the SC ruling within 15 days – by September 10, 2010.
The federal government had announced, on May 22, 2007, the reservation of a 10 per cent quota for women in all federal jobs. The quota was in addition to the posts they would secure on open merit.
The FPSC, however, denied seats to 13 successful women candidates from the Punjab in 2008. These candidates first moved the Lahore High Court and later the Supreme Court.
Nargis Shazia Chaudhry, one of the 13 petitioners, had requested the court to change the method of allocation. She had argued that first the general merit seats should be filled, on the basis of the provincial formula, and then the 10-percent women quota should be applied to the remaining women candidates.
She had also requested that the open-merit seats vacated by women, who moved to better groups under the quota, be filled by women only.
The FPSC criteria earlier allowed filling up the open-merit seats vacated by women by whoever happened to be next on the merit list. This, the petitioner argued, resulted in less women getting CSS allocations which was not declared policy.
After the SC ruling, an FPSC official said, a seat vacated by a woman can only be filled by another woman.
He said that Nargis, who would get a better group under the quota, would now be replaced by another woman. He said that the FPSC had submitted a review petition but it was unsuccessful.
In the wake of the verdict, he apprehended, several candidates allocated seats in 2008 would get affected as there would be no vacancies to adjust them. Keeping this in mind, he added, the FPSC had requested the Establishment Division to make room for the 14 male candidates by creating new vacancies.
Several probationers, who are currently completing their CTP at the CSA and may be affected by the SC ruling, told The Express Tribune that they would move the SC if they are not accommodated.
They held that next year they would no longer be eligible for taking the FPSC exam (on account of age restrictions) and after getting a year’s training it would be very hard for them to adjust in any profession other than civil service.
Of the 14 probationers, 12 belong to the Punjab and two to the Khyber-Pukhtunkhwa. There occupational groups are information, railways and postal services.
Published in The Express Tribune, September 6th, 2010.

Source:[url]http://tribune.com.pk/story/46939/fpsc-asks-govt-to-adjust-css-discards/[/url]

Now what? and when?:sad:

[QUOTE=zbaloch_204;213817]Implementation of SC verdict on women’s quota.
LAHORE: The Federal Public Service Commission (FPSC) has asked the Establishment Division to adjust 14 probationers from the 2008 batch who would stand removed from their CSS allocations in the wake of a Supreme Court decision calling for the implementation of 10 per cent quota for women before September 10.
A senior FPSC official told The Express Tribune that the FPSC had clarified that if the Establishment Division failed to comply, the commission would itself make changes in the CSS 2008 allocations list. This, he said, would affect not just the 14 probationers in question, but also all others who have already completed the one-year 37th common training programme (CTP) at the Civil Services Academy (CSA).
The official said that following the SC verdict 14 more women would be accommodated in the CSS 2008 (37th CTP) and 17 in CSS 2009 allocations.
He said that the FPSC would likely send the allocations list for CSS 2009 to the Establishment Division in two days.
The Supreme Court directed the FPSC in the last week of August to change the manner in which it allocated the women candidates in CSS. It ordered the FPSC secretary to implement the SC ruling within 15 days – by September 10, 2010.
The federal government had announced, on May 22, 2007, the reservation of a 10 per cent quota for women in all federal jobs. The quota was in addition to the posts they would secure on open merit.
The FPSC, however, denied seats to 13 successful women candidates from the Punjab in 2008. These candidates first moved the Lahore High Court and later the Supreme Court.
Nargis Shazia Chaudhry, one of the 13 petitioners, had requested the court to change the method of allocation. She had argued that first the general merit seats should be filled, on the basis of the provincial formula, and then the 10-percent women quota should be applied to the remaining women candidates.
She had also requested that the open-merit seats vacated by women, who moved to better groups under the quota, be filled by women only.
The FPSC criteria earlier allowed filling up the open-merit seats vacated by women by whoever happened to be next on the merit list. This, the petitioner argued, resulted in less women getting CSS allocations which was not declared policy.
After the SC ruling, an FPSC official said, a seat vacated by a woman can only be filled by another woman.
He said that Nargis, who would get a better group under the quota, would now be replaced by another woman. He said that the FPSC had submitted a review petition but it was unsuccessful.
In the wake of the verdict, he apprehended, several candidates allocated seats in 2008 would get affected as there would be no vacancies to adjust them. Keeping this in mind, he added, the FPSC had requested the Establishment Division to make room for the 14 male candidates by creating new vacancies.
Several probationers, who are currently completing their CTP at the CSA and may be affected by the SC ruling, told The Express Tribune that they would move the SC if they are not accommodated.
They held that next year they would no longer be eligible for taking the FPSC exam (on account of age restrictions) and after getting a year’s training it would be very hard for them to adjust in any profession other than civil service.
Of the 14 probationers, 12 belong to the Punjab and two to the Khyber-Pukhtunkhwa. There occupational groups are information, railways and postal services.
Published in The Express Tribune, September 6th, 2010.

Source:[url]http://tribune.com.pk/story/46939/fpsc-asks-govt-to-adjust-css-discards/[/url][/QUOTE]

Dear as per my information dated 20 Sep 2010(Mon/today), no allocation list has been forwarded to Estab Divn, so far. FPSC is still working on CE-2009 allocations, it will take time.
Regards

Today I wrote to Secretary, FPSC
 

To,
The Secretary,
FPSC, Islamabad.
Sir,
It is submitted that 10% women quota in public/civil services was promulgated by the Govt of Pakistan with the view to make women a part of public policy. It was started when the literacy rate of women was not so good. But the scenario is quite different now. In all universities there are 50-70% female students while rest of the 30-50% are the male.
Forgoing in view, it is requested to please abolish 10% women quota in public/civil services and turn all the vacancies to open merit.
Yours truly,
---Sd---

[QUOTE=Sultan Rahi;213855]Dear as per my information dated 20 Sep 2010(Mon/today), no allocation list has been forwarded to Estab Divn, so far. FPSC is still working on CE-2009 allocations, it will take time.
Regards[/QUOTE]

[B]Vacancies[/B]
The Establishment Division reported 289 fresh vacancies. After inclusion of 99 carried over vacancies, the total
vacancies increased to 388. Over and above 388 regular vacancies, eight fresh and one carried over vacancies are
reserved for Armed Forces Officers for Competitive Examination 2009. Calculations/distributions of these vacancies
on the basis of Merit, Provincial/Regional quota and 10% reserved for women quota, have been worked out. [B]These
have been forwarded to Establishment Division for confirmation/approval. On receipt of approval, these vacancies will
be announced in the press for information of the candidates.[/B] Subsequently allocations will be made on the basis of
their merit, domicile and preferences.

source:[url]http://fpsc.gov.pk/icms/admin/documents/publications/Newsletter%2013th%20edition.pdf[/url]

to deadly doctor
 

FPSC has already publically announced the number of vacancies. Same are available on fpsc website.

[QUOTE=Sultan Rahi;213857]To,
The Secretary,
FPSC, Islamabad.
Sir,
It is submitted that 10% women quota in public/civil services was promulgated by the Govt of Pakistan with the view to make women a part of public policy. It was started when the literacy rate of women was not so good. But the scenario is quite different now. In all universities there are 50-70% female students while rest of the 30-50% are the male.
Forgoing in view, it is requested to please abolish 10% women quota in public/civil services and turn all the vacancies to open merit.
Yours truly,
---Sd---[/QUOTE]

Dude i endorse your view fully. However, I dont think that anyone could do anything now. cuz if govt. tries to retract this back, all these women will make such unprecedented uproar. It is true for them that when i comes to take the privileges, they make an innocent face and try to carve our for themselves more than what they deserve. They do this on the plea of them being weaker gender and being unable to perform at par with stronger counter part.
However, when they realize that something is going in male's way due to their weakness, their attitude suddenly changes. The previously weak woman now start claiming that they can do everything equally good as man or sometimes even better. The receive all those relaxations and perks on the basis of this hypocritical attitude. :shy

Khush Rahye
Dr. Ali

The friends, who agree my view point, are requested to second me, unanimously, in writing to all those who are at the helm of affairs, particularly the FPSC and Estab Divn.
Regards

@sultan rahi

bro! i did not post to tell vacancies.it was about forwarding to establishment.
[B]Calculations/distributions of these vacancies
on the basis of Merit, Provincial/Regional quota and 10% reserved for women quota, have been worked out. These
have been forwarded to Establishment Division for confirmation/approval. On receipt of approval, these vacancies will
be announced in the press for information of the candidates.[/B]

the vacancies have already been approved by the establishment division and available on fpsc website and notified thru press as well.

hell o everyone
 

Hello


Anybody, have you any clue about allocations announcement. Don't you think it is too much late, without notifying anything, as reason for delay. Does it not seem kind of unfair, rather humiliating to the waiting/suffering candidates.
One tends to think, this is the worth of our time in their eyes.

Or perhaps this is due to our unreal expectations!

what are other friends thinking about it, kindly share...:unsure:

[QUOTE=Sultan Rahi;213855]Dear as per my information dated 20 Sep 2010(Mon/today), no allocation list has been forwarded to Estab Divn, so far. FPSC is still working on CE-2009 allocations, it will take time.
Regards[/QUOTE]

Hi all,

Can some body explain to me in simple lay man's language that how this verdict of SC would affect on women quota as well as the allocation procedure??

I shall be highly obliged...


Regards,

results of candidates with merit number 228-242 will be affected with new formula and it will open a new Pandora box

latest news is that 15 students from merit number 212 to 242 will be affected.
Raz can you give us the allocations guess once again with new formula as you have once given us in the form of excel file?
allocations will be announced in the first week of October.

can anyone please tell how will the SC verdict affect both top and bottom merit male canditates?

[QUOTE=mussaa;216300]results of candidates with merit number 228-242 will be affected with new formula and it will open a new Pandora box

latest news is that 15 students from merit number 212 to 242 will be affected.
Raz can you give us the allocations guess once again with new formula as you have once given us in the form of excel file?
allocations will be announced in the first week of October.[/QUOTE]

These are the candidates as mentioned in your post. Will these not be selected at all-OR- only their groups will be affected?
6167 212 Naveed Ahmad Punjab 873
803 213 Fareeha Lal Punjab 873
4222 214 Maria Rasheed Punjab 872
5090 215 Rana Yasir Arfat Punjab 872
3659 218 Duriya Aamir Punjab 872
3875 219 Hammad Ur Rehman Qaiser Punjab 872
877 220 Nosheen Imtiaz Punjab 872
5016 222 Qaiser Abbas Rind Punjab 871
4245 223 Mazhar Hayat Punjab 871
5554 224 Syed Shoaib Raza Punjab 871
3947 226 Hussain Abbas Khan Punjab 871
4039 227 Jahanzeb Pitafi Punjab 871
3804 228 Ghulam Farid Punjab 870
3492 229 Asad Ali Chaudhary Punjab 870
6163 232 Naila Kanval Punjab 869
4366 233 Muhammad Adnan Khan Punjab 868
3372 234 Ali Ahmed Punjab 868
5807 235 Zeeshan Ghous Punjab 868
4504 236 Muhammad Fiaz Gul Punjab 868
635 237 Muhammad Zeshan Nadeem Punjab 868
5104 238 Raza Hassan Punjab 867
1727 239 Malik Muhammad Nasir Ayyaz Punjab 867
4688 240 Muhammad Saleem Punjab 867
5106 241 Razwan Nazir Punjab 866
4581 242 Muhammad Kashif Punjab 866
Moreover these are 25 Candidates instead of 15, as mentioned in your post. Please clarify the situation, as I am at 223 position :-)

most probably tomorrow evening allocations will be annouced.

@mussa
 

Is this a hunch or did you get any tip from a credible source?

[QUOTE=mussaa;216772]most probably tomorrow evening allocations will be annouced.[/QUOTE]

Do they continue official activity on off days? Tomorrow is Saturday. :shy

Boss merit list revise bhi Saturday ko hi hui thi.I have read it from a Newspaper. I don't know how authentic the news is but my own sources say that it will announced in the next week.

[QUOTE=mussaa;216812]Boss merit list revise bhi Saturday ko hi hui thi.I have read it from a Newspaper. I don't know how authentic the news is but my own sources say that it will announced in the next week.[/QUOTE]

No Dear..!!! Merit list was revised on Friday 18th June..!!!! Saturdays are off and its nearly impossible for FPSC to announce on off days.!!!! Can you please share the newspaper name and story..?

Did we make any mistake???
 

Hello everyone!!!
I just want to ask one simple question that did we make any mistake by appearing in css and then clearing it with some hardwork :bow
I mean hadd hoti hai yar... first written result was announced 5 1/2 months later, interview was taken after 6 months (19th april) of declaration of result and now more than 100 days have passed but still no news of allocations. People have been asking about my group and I have been answering them k next week or 10 days main pata chal jaey ga.
If anyone has got any trustworthy source with commission or establishment then please let us know that when will we receive our groups' allocation???

According to my information, the allocations are likely to be announced this coming week. Having said that, I am not confirming this information as it has been passed on to me from a friend. Lets see what happens. This week can be pivotal for our future careers. Good Luck to all CSS 2009 candidates.