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Muzzamil Friday, December 20, 2013 10:32 AM

Critics raise objection to FPSC exams credibility-The News
 
[CENTER][B][SIZE="5"]Critics raise objection to FPSC exams credibility[/SIZE][/B][/CENTER]
[B][FONT="Book Antiqua"][CENTER]Shakeel Anjum-The News (December 20, 2013)[/CENTER][/FONT][/B]
[SIZE="4"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]Echo of objections over the CSS Examination-2013 is being raised from different quarters all over the country, creating ambiguity in the course of the credible competitive examination, probably, for the first time in the history of the country.

The resound of the criticism over the competitive examination, could be heard in the corridors of the Parliaments House and the lawmakers are thinking to address the matter.

The people raising objections are of the view that on one hand the state of Pakistan faces acute scarcity of brilliant minds in districts administration, police and revenue departments on the other hand the result of CSS-Examinations, 2013 does not only raise the eye brows of many but also, it badly damages the credibility of FPSC and educational institutions in the country.

“Even during British rule, the competence and objectivity of superior civil servants was invariably considered the only criterion for their selection so that they can deliver justice, eradicate crimes and maintain law and order all over British domain. After Pakistan’s independence, the superior civil servants were primarily supposed to be competent and nationally as well as humanly spirited souls to ensure good governance and better future to the new sovereign nation. History of nearly seven decades of misrule in Pakistan out rightly negates this prerequisite for selection of CSP Officers through FPSC.

Recently announced result of CSS-Written Examinations, 2013 produces extremely depressive conclusion, perilously damaging our national cohesion in the future, which is already under emerging constraints. According to it, out of 11,480 candidates appeared in the written CSS-Exam, 2013, only 238 candidates have been declared as qualified, which is 2.7 per cent of the total candidates. Although, the CSS written exam held in February, 2013 was initially infested with notorious scandal of Faisalabad centre where the examination-papers were leaked in connivance of examiners, custodians and overseers, yet the main characteristics of the long-awaited, controversial too, result nullifies tall claims of honesty, secrecy, transparency and accountability FPSC usually brags off,” the people, raising objections, maintained.

Originally, 15,998 applied but 11,406 actually appeared in the written exam, however, only 172 male and 66 female candidates qualified the exam, totalling only 238. Some failed candidates on CSS Forum have posted alarming data, which has not so far been rebutted by FPSC, according to which 98 qualified candidates belongs to Lahore, 36 Islamabad, 14 Faisalabad, 15 Rawalpindi, 12 Multan, 1 Sargodha and 1 Sialkot, numbering as much as 165 from Central Punjab and only 12 from entire South Punjab. Similarly, among the qualified candidates of Sindh, 12 belong to Karachi, 2 to Larkana and 2 to Sukkhar. Only 8 qualified candidates appearing on Balochistan domicile belong to Quetta while the entire province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) has only 3 lucky candidates who belong to Peshawar and Abbottabad.

In nutshell, the entire province of Sindh finds no representation in the future civil bureaucracy except 12 from Karachi while 2 each from Larkana and Sukkhar, which makes negligible impact. The entire Balochistan, except Quetta, finds no room in the slot of the future ruling elite and the same is with the KP that has 3 successful candidates belonging to Peshawar and Abbottabad.

Even if the candidates have been selected on merit, the ultimate outcome of the result shall cost grave impact on the minds of the unemployed but educated youth of the under-developed area having no educational facilities at par with Lahore, Rawalpindi, Faisalabad, and Karachi. However, this is not the case of natural deprivation because the standard FPSC applied for marking and selection of the candidates evidently shows many loop-holes, showing vital discrepancies in the system and standard of marking as it is gravely self-contradictory. For instance, the candidates who obtained more than 650 marks have been declared failed but those who have secured only 600 marks being passed in all subjects are declared passed.

Likewise, a large number of the unsuccessful candidates are passed in “Essay” are failed in “Précis” and those who are passed in “Précis” but failed in “Essay”. It is appalling to note that the components of “English Précis and Composition” paper not only include ideas summation but also idea expansion. It further includes language skills test encompassing vocabulary and grammar test. Evidently, if a candidate passes this paper while failing essay, it is indicative of the fact that either the language skills were not properly tested in “Précis” paper or the essay paper was not effectively marked. Not only that but also the sequence of the passing candidates according to their Roll Nos. is amazingly interesting. Out of 617 from Roll No.1 to 617, only 4 candidates are passed but 4 candidates out of only 33 candidates from Roll No.618 to 667 are passed while the result of three more candidates having Roll No614, 638 and 667 has been held up. Despite sequential scepticism in the passed candidates, there are some mysterious pairs. For instance, Muhammad Imran and Muhammad Irfan Roll No.618 and Roll No. 619, respectively are among the passed candidates. Another pair of the lucky candidates having roll no.11216 and 11217 are among 238 candidates declared qualified.

Generally, FPSC blames the universities in its annual reports for poor results of the candidates but it considers itself far beyond scrutiny and accountability. If audit of the performance of their chosen ruling elite, FPSC shall be the national institution giving the nation the army of incapable, arrogant and dishonest superior civil servants who have led this country in unending peril.

The spokesman for the FPSC, Rameez Ahmad, when contacted by this scribe to seek his comments, rebuffing the objections raised by the critics, said that paper marking was not job of FPSC and the FPSC could not evaluate it. He said that the FPSC selects the panel of examiner with tough criteria who check papers. “We cannot ask the examiners to increase the marks of any candidate,” the spokesman said adding, “This is a subjective approach, not objective.” Responding to a question, Rameez said that the standard of graduation has transformed and now the graduates have degree of equal to masters as they get degree after 4 years instead of two years. “Doctors and engineers are graduates too,” he maintained.

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usmanwrites Friday, December 20, 2013 11:46 AM

This is sheer injustice rather crime against southern punjab. If sindh can be divided in rural and urban why can't punjab? :(
Who will present 6 points for southern punjab or relegated sraikis:mad:
Thr abundance resources of fertile land of Southern punjab are sucked by elite leeches of upper punjab almost same was the case with Bangladesh.
Almost 3 crore people speak sraiki but it doesn't show up neither in CSS or PMS optionals :o
What the government want us to do ? Form a SLA sraiki liberation army ????

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abdul.rauf Friday, December 20, 2013 02:49 PM

My opinion
 
Some discrepancies in data / conclusions drawn by author:

1. Although 238 is an all time low and discouraging (as well as condemnable) number, one needs to keep in mind that there are usually less than 200 vacancies filled up by this exam every year. So, this discouraging number does not mean that lots of slots will go unfilled - except in case of Balochistan and Sindh-Urban whose number of qualifiers are speculated to be very few.

2. Candidates appearing (and qualifying) from exam centres set up in any metropolis does not necessarily mean that all of them belong to that urban city. As, due to limited number of exam centres, candidates select the venue as per their convenience. For example, a person belonging to less privileged areas such as Noshki, Lakki Marwat, or Ghotki may appear from any of the major cities - viz Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi etc. Similarly a candidate with domicile of Peshawar city might appear from Sargodha or Sukkur (among other options), if he resides (temporarily) or works there. Thus, one can not plot the correct demographic distribution of qualifiers on national map at this stage unless domicile of each qualifier is known.

3. A total number of 17 candidates have qualified from the examination centres of Southern Punjab. Break-up: Multan 12, Bahawalpur 2 and DG Khan 3. Again, as per the preceding point (# 2) this number is not true reflection of South vs Central plus Northern Punjab comparative.

4. A total number of 21 candidates have qualified from examination centres of Sindh province (Karachi 12, Hyderabad 7, Larkana 1, Sukkur 1). Once again, point number 2 limits us to accurately predict rural-urban divide here.

5. The instances that candidates with contiguous roll numbers have qualified is merely a matter of incidence and in no way undermines the credibility of the said examination. Apply any international exam assessment parameter and statistical probailty rule here.

Having said that, I do agree that there lies a huge room at FPSC's disposal to make the CSS examination a competitive and credible one in its true literal sense.

Bilal Hassan Friday, December 20, 2013 03:53 PM

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“Even during British rule, the competence and objectivity of superior civil servants was invariably considered the only criterion for their selection so that they can deliver justice, eradicate crimes and maintain law and order all over British domain. After Pakistan’s independence, the superior civil servants were primarily supposed to be competent and nationally as well as humanly spirited souls to ensure good governance and better future to the new sovereign nation. History of nearly seven decades of misrule in Pakistan out rightly negates this prerequisite for selection of CSP Officers through FPSC.[/FONT][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
[COLOR="blue"][B]I agree, there is dire need to reform the CSS exam and CE-2013 paper pattern was a step in right direction. Such a paper must be set that tests the real logic, analysis, intellect and comprehending abilities of candidates, rather their cramming abilities. [/B][/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Muzzamil;681235]
[SIZE="4"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]Recently announced result of CSS-Written Examinations, 2013 produces extremely depressive conclusion, perilously damaging our national cohesion in the future, which is already under emerging constraints. According to it, out of 11,480 candidates appeared in the written CSS-Exam, 2013, only 238 candidates have been declared as qualified, which is 2.7 per cent of the total candidates. Although, the CSS written exam held in February, 2013 was initially infested with notorious scandal of Faisalabad centre where the examination-papers were leaked in connivance of examiners, custodians and overseers, yet the main characteristics of the long-awaited, controversial too, result nullifies tall claims of honesty, secrecy, transparency and accountability FPSC usually brags off,” the people, raising objections, maintained.[/FONT][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
[COLOR="blue"][B]I'm sorry to say but how can tough result put the national integrity in harm's way? And Faisalabad issue must not be taken as an argument for that result, it is not relevant. FPSC cannot have its own employees to conduct CE throughout 22 centres, it has to outsource personnel as invigilators and postal services, although delivery system can be streamlined, they can increase the fee but it will be a safe bargain for the potential applicants. If FPSC had not not told people that such an incident took place in Faisalabad, was there any way for the critics to have any wind of that news? NO, they did so to ensure merit, FPSC could have saved its reputation by simply keeping mum on that matter but they didn't. So they must not be criticized for that. [/B][/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Muzzamil;681235]
[SIZE="4"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]Originally, 15,998 applied but 11,406 actually appeared in the written exam, however, only 172 male and 66 female candidates qualified the exam, totalling only 238. Some failed candidates on CSS Forum have posted alarming data, which has not so far been rebutted by FPSC, according to which 98 qualified candidates belongs to Lahore, 36 Islamabad, 14 Faisalabad, 15 Rawalpindi, 12 Multan, 1 Sargodha and 1 Sialkot, numbering as much as 165 from Central Punjab and only 12 from entire South Punjab. Similarly, among the qualified candidates of Sindh, 12 belong to Karachi, 2 to Larkana and 2 to Sukkhar. Only 8 qualified candidates appearing on Balochistan domicile belong to Quetta while the entire province of Khyber Pakhtunkhwa (KP) has only 3 lucky candidates who belong to Peshawar and Abbottabad.[/FONT][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
[COLOR="blue"][B]If people from Central Punjab are more capable then others then is it their fault? If I remember, that happens every time, out of qualifiers every year roughly 65-70% belong to Punjab and out of qualifiers from Punjab almost 80% belong to central Punjab, it happens every year, nothing new about it.[/B][/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Muzzamil;681235]
[SIZE="4"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]In nutshell, the entire province of Sindh finds no representation in the future civil bureaucracy except 12 from Karachi while 2 each from Larkana and Sukkhar, which makes negligible impact. The entire Balochistan, except Quetta, finds no room in the slot of the future ruling elite and the same is with the KP that has 3 successful candidates belonging to Peshawar and Abbottabad.[/FONT][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
[COLOR="blue"][B]Then what? They have every opportunity to compete and take whichever slot they want. Does the writer forget when a person from Punjab on Merit number 140 is not allocated at all while people from Sindh and Balochistan get DMG and PSP on merit num 400? [/B][/COLOR]

[QUOTE=Muzzamil;681235]
[SIZE="4"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]For instance, the candidates who obtained more than 650 marks have been declared failed but those who have secured only 600 marks being passed in all subjects are declared passed.[/FONT][/SIZE][/QUOTE]
[COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="3"][B]Hahaha! I am amazed at writer's spying abilities.[/B][/SIZE] [/COLOR]
[COLOR="DarkRed"][SIZE="3"][B]First of all I would like to enlighten that people even with 775 marks in written are failed, to pass the exam you have to pass all these subjects even securing 600 marks. And as far as those with 650 score as failed is concerned, they would have failed a subject or two for sure.
[U]But the point is that how does the writer know that those who have passed have exactly 600 marks? :thinking Marks of qualifiers are not disclosed yet. [/U]This is bad, to criticize FPSC that person is leaving no stone unturned![/B][/SIZE][/COLOR]
[QUOTE=Muzzamil;681235]
[SIZE="4"][FONT="Book Antiqua"]Likewise, a large number of the unsuccessful candidates are passed in “Essay” are failed in “Précis” and those who are passed in “Précis” but failed in “Essay”. It is appalling to note that the components of “English Précis and Composition” paper not only include ideas summation but also idea expansion. It further includes language skills test encompassing vocabulary and grammar test. Evidently, if a candidate passes this paper while failing essay, it is indicative of the fact that either the language skills were not properly tested in “Précis” paper or the essay paper was not effectively marked. Not only that but also the sequence of the passing candidates according to their Roll Nos. is amazingly interesting. Out of 617 from Roll No.1 to 617, only 4 candidates are passed but 4 candidates out of only 33 candidates from Roll No.618 to 667 are passed while the result of three more candidates having Roll No614, 638 and 667 has been held up. Despite sequential scepticism in the passed candidates, there are some mysterious pairs. For instance, Muhammad Imran and Muhammad Irfan Roll No.618 and Roll No. 619, respectively are among the passed candidates. Another pair of the lucky candidates having roll no.11216 and 11217 are among 238 candidates declared qualified.
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[COLOR="blue"][B]In essay you need to write on a topic, you may not be having original data and cramming may get your job done, which is not given credit by FPSC. But in Precis and composition you have to solve every question out of given options, if both papers had same abilities to gauge, there was no need to have two papers when one was enough, both have different things to measure.
The other things he pointed out are trivial and below the standard of being published in a news paper such as qualified candidates with names Muhammad Irfan and Muhammad Imran etc, this may make you skeptical but this is a case of coincident. If you take such things into account then three siblings qualified CSS-2012, they three appeared and all of them passed. [/B][/COLOR]
[QUOTE=usmanwrites;681246]This is sheer injustice rather crime against southern punjab. If sindh can be divided in rural and urban why can't punjab? :(
Who will present 6 points for southern punjab or relegated sraikis:mad:
Thr abundance resources of fertile land of Southern punjab are sucked by elite leeches of upper punjab almost same was the case with Bangladesh.
Almost 3 crore people speak sraiki but it doesn't show up neither in CSS or PMS optionals :o
What the government want us to do ? Form a SLA sraiki liberation army ????

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Brother keep calm, don't try to make a fuss out of that issue. You have same opportunities as are enjoyed by Central or Northern Punjab. You yourself tell me, if there are only 12 qualifiers then having separate quota would increase your share? The seats will go wasted, we all know that there are always very small number of qualifiers from Southern Punjab. Now what are you asking for? You want FPSC to pass more people from Southern Punjab? Brother, if you pass the written then comes the quota, so separate quota won't simply mitigate grievances, there must be enough written qualifiers to allocate on quota seats. You must have concrete view about something with logical solutions. If that was a publicity stunt then a bad one I must say. We have to stay united dear, don't tear apart that land of ours.[/B][/COLOR] :)

usmanwrites Friday, December 20, 2013 04:16 PM

[COLOR="blue"][B]If people from Central Punjab are more capable then others then is it their fault? If I remember, that happens every time, out of qualifiers every year roughly 65-70% belong to Punjab and out of qualifiers from Punjab almost 80% belong to central Punjab, it happens every year, nothing new about it.[/B][/COLOR]

Yes there is nothing new about it . They are not capable because they don't have opportunities. In competition starting line should be same.
How on earth one can compare the education level of Southern and upper punjab? Have you ever visited southern punjab. Have you ever heard of district Rajanpur? Literacy rate is almost zero over there.
Yes you can proudly chant that the people of upper punjab are more capable only if you provide the same infrastructure and environment in which they people of upper punjab nurture.






Brother keep calm, don't try to make a fuss out of that issue. You have same opportunities as are enjoyed by Central or Northern Punjab.
You must be kidding same opportunities :eek:

yourself tell me, if there are only 12 qualifiers then having separate quota would increase your share?
No it won't but it will make sure that those 12 candidates are allocated they deserve this because they competed and passed the exam with pathetic academic background in pathetic environment.

We have to stay united dear, don't tear apart that land of ours.[/B][/COLOR] :)[/QUOTE]

Unity is leisure term used by those who have financial security, but unfortunately people of Southern punjab do not even know what the word security means:mad:

The abundance cotton and wheat produced by southern punjab is wasted on metro project in lahore when the childrens of sraiki people are dying of hunger and diseases

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usmanwrites Friday, December 20, 2013 04:19 PM

Tell me one thing the population of sraiki people is around 30 million then why we dont have sraikis as an optional in CSS or even PMS. When Balochi sinddhi pashtu punjabi why not sraiki:confused:
Punjabi dominance is doing same thing as they did with Bengalis and the result would be the same

Bilal Hassan Friday, December 20, 2013 05:07 PM

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Yes there is nothing new about it . They are not capable because they don't have opportunities. In competition starting line should be same.
How on earth one can compare the education level of Southern and upper punjab? Have you ever visited southern punjab. Have you ever heard of district Rajanpur? Literacy rate is almost zero over there.
Yes you can proudly chant that the people of upper punjab are more capable only if you provide the same infrastructure and environment in which they people of upper punjab nurture.[/Quote]
[COLOR="Blue"][B]What do you mean by opportunities? Let me discuss that misconception today. For CSS you need Books only and nothing else. And You need no books for Essay, Precis & composition, Islamiat and Current Affairs because these are general papers, to attempt these papers you must have intellect and Good English, and both these things are made of hard work and commitment, that is free and readily available.

For optional papers you need one book for every subject brother, and I thing that one can easily afford. I know a person who purchased no book for even a single subject, he had few books with him that he studied in Intermediate and Graduation and he opted only those subjects so that he doesn't need to purchase any book, you know why? He had no money to afford a single book even, not to ask of any tuition or academy. He had been to petty govt schools throughout his academic career, Yet he managed to qualify the exam. Because he had potential and nothing else, and that's what you need.

Brother if CSS is done with facilities then rich had easy access to bureaucracy owing to their ability to afford everything but this is not the case, majority always belongs to middle or lower middle class. There is nothing else you need but Allah's blessing and your hard work as well as your real intellect.
[QUOTE=usmanwrites;681283]Tell me one thing the population of sraiki people is around 30 million then why we dont have sraikis as an optional in CSS or even PMS. When Balochi sinddhi pashtu punjabi why not sraiki:confused:
Punjabi dominance is doing same thing as they did with Bengalis and the result would be the same[/QUOTE]

[COLOR="Blue"][B]Brother all these languages are regional languages, 4 languages = 4 provinces. Punjabi is our language and Saraiki is mere a dialect of Punjabi and nothing else.[/B][/COLOR]

Brother I know that there are many deprivations of our brothers from Southern Punjab and I know their grievances are genuine, my sympathies are with you and all those. But my dear such slogans as you chanted is against the integrity of our country.
I wish you luck in your endeavors. May Allah help you.[/B][/COLOR]

usmanwrites Friday, December 20, 2013 05:51 PM

Bilal your definition of opportunity reminds me of a story: once a rich a girl was asked define a poor girl and her definition sounds similar to you although the context is different .
She said a girl who owns old model of iphone an old car and old house is poor
My dear to appear for exam one must be graduate do you know how many graduates are in southern punjab? How many colleges or even school are there? If one can't have food to eat do you think he will go to school?
The case you mentioned is exception thus irrelevant.
What I was trying to say is that when a person belongs to repressed and relegated area should be encouraged through quota.

I was introduced to English language and I literally learned ABC when I was in 6th class .I know you won't believe this. Although I am the one who you people call Wadeery ka beta ;)

If such is the condition of one whose father is wadera think about others :rolleyes: who are poor what would be their comprehension level. Its like you pick a boy who is the student of 8th class and say chal beta ab CSS ka exam dy.

Im not fighting for myself as I have resources to pursue my career in different fields but what about others who dont have resources? Don't they deserve a quota? If someone comes from such pathetic background

People sitting here in upper punjab cannot define the word opportunity until they visit the southern punjab. Don't take it personal:p

People of Southern punjab are not begging for quota it is their right because they contribute to GDP which no other part of country contributes still they are deprived of education health. You won't believe but in some areas there is no drinking water they drink river water:mad: you people simply don't have the capability to understand the issue.

Ps: My father is wadera but it doesn't mean he is to b blamed for this mess there are other ground realities:p


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usmanwrites Friday, December 20, 2013 06:08 PM

There is no power on earth who can stop formation of the Sraikistan. These so called lions and bats soon will be history and would be condemned in the history of Sraikistan. Stay tuned :)

Enough crimes have been committed in the name of integration and democracy soon we will throw off the yoke of punjabi domination

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waaqar Friday, December 20, 2013 07:02 PM

fpsc would never change its stance over result of 2013. while it is sad the people who have more than 750 marks , even fail. but what ridiculous is that why in screening test math portion is compulsory, it must not be there at any cost.:blink


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