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ProfessorX Friday, January 01, 2016 11:09 PM

How much time required to prepare for Accounting, if one has no prior experience
 
Dear members,

As is clear from the topic name, how much time does a so-called 'newbie' needs to invest to get 150+ marks in the accounts paper.

Anyone here with prior experience?

zaaraqutab Saturday, January 02, 2016 01:47 AM

[QUOTE=ProfessorX;899927]Dear members,

As is clear from the topic name, how much time does a so-called 'newbie' needs to invest to get 150+ marks in the accounts paper.

Anyone here with prior experience?[/QUOTE]
truly speaking two months not less than that.

ProfessorX Saturday, January 02, 2016 04:33 AM

I see, even though it is high-scoring but it requires time. One can never be too sure, especially if one has no background knowledge relating to the subject, although I have concluded from the FPSC annual reports that it can prove to be a fruitful subject, even if you are not familiar with the subject matter.

zaaraqutab Saturday, January 02, 2016 09:23 PM

[QUOTE=ProfessorX;899990]I see, even though it is high-scoring but it requires time. One can never be too sure, especially if one has no background knowledge relating to the subject, although I have concluded from the FPSC annual reports that it can prove to be a fruitful subject, even if you are not familiar with the subject matter.[/QUOTE]

200 marks preparation is a big deal.you must invest your best potential.As far as familiarity is concerned,i dont think its necessary for success but your hard work is ...Best of luck

Mazhar Ali Khokhar Saturday, January 02, 2016 11:00 PM

You should not opt accounts if you don't have commerce background.
I got 119 even if I have 2 successive commerce degrees.

Rest is up to you.

ProfessorX Wednesday, January 06, 2016 10:45 PM

Dear Mazhar,

Thank you for your advise but barring a couple of subjects most of us don't have experience with the other optional subjects either, no?

zaaraqutab Wednesday, January 06, 2016 11:19 PM

Ecactly it is impossible to have background for every optional subject

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khanbaba512 Thursday, January 07, 2016 03:40 AM

Accounting is basically a technical subject as compared to other optionals. I myself opted for this subject without prior experience in the last attempt but i invested my time fairly in this subject. If you are a newbie, consider investing atleast 3+ months in this subject alone. It consumes fair amount of your time because it need practice.

zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 03:51 AM

I tought it ll take upto one and a half month but now im feeling it needs a lil bit more than what i have planned

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khanbaba512 Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:00 AM

[QUOTE=zaaraqutab;901597]I tought it ll take upto one and a half month but now im feeling it needs a lil bit more than what i have planned

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Yes. This is not even enough time for revision. You have so much to cover from various fields. It is like whole syllabus of I.COM, B.Com

zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:01 AM

But question are a bit tricky in past papers some times examener asks simple things you just get confused how to handle the question.it needs a lot of practice

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khanbaba512 Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:06 AM

just try to understand the concept of each topic..familiarize yourself with different entries and terminologies and you are good to go

zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:07 AM

Im still confused about scoring trend of this subject

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zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:08 AM

Looks like no one has ever opted it before.

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khanbaba512 Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:10 AM

This is a technical subject. If you attempt a question in right manner, you can secure full marks not like other theoretical subjects. So one can secure good marks (140+ ) if he can manage to control his nerves during examination. Rest is luck.

zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:13 AM

Phr b any score you know someone got from it?

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khanbaba512 Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:15 AM

i forgot my score of the last attempt. But as i said 140+ marks are achievable . My score was i think in the line of 130+ but i am not sure

zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:17 AM

I hv just started from final accounts but not able to define right approach which topic to cover or not still every thing is opaque specially about topics.
Can you please share your method to handle this?

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khanbaba512 Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:22 AM

i was actually blessed with the opportunity to have guidance of a teacher of who was able to feed me with the concepts. Basically he starts with first explaining different terminologies and theory and then moves on to the numerical portion. In this way i was able to cover the syllabus without any difficulty. I can only advise you to consult a professional who can help you with the problems. Accounting is not a subject where one can just buy books and read the instructions to solve the questions. Guidance from an authority is compulsory who can supervise you

zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:28 AM

I have accounting background a bit but b.com level doesnt seem sufficiant for conceptual questions
Im studing megis an meigs right now along with sohail afzaal for numericals
Topics i have selected for accounting right now are as follows
FA
Ratios
Partnership
BRS
Depriciation
These are for numericals
For theory im studing from all most every topic.
Problm arises like i.e Q 2 from 2009 if im not wrong
Not getting what examiner is asking in that question
Similarly with other pprs problm is same
Please also add if any topic for numerical is omitted from above mentioned.
Thanks

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zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:31 AM

An these are just for 50 marks accounting portion(part b cost obviously not included yet)

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khanbaba512 Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:40 AM

[QUOTE=zaaraqutab;901608]I have accounting background a bit but b.com level doesnt seem sufficiant for conceptual questions
Im studing megis an meigs right now along with sohail afzaal for numericals
Topics i have selected for accounting right now are as follows
FA
Ratios
Partnership
BRS
Depriciation
These are for numericals
For theory im studing from all most every topic.
Problm arises like i.e Q 2 from 2009 if im not wrong
Not getting what examiner is asking in that question
Similarly with other pprs problm is same
Please also add if any topic for numerical is omitted from above mentioned.
Thanks

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That perticular question can be solved if you have mastered ratios. Those blanks can only be filled if you know the ratio topic..Topics that i will cover for Paper 1 (Part 1)

1. Final Accounts
2. Provision for Bad Debts
3. Accounts of non- trading concerns
4. Depreciation
5.Adjusting, closing, reverse entries to supplement the above topics
6.Woksheet
7. Merchandizing transactions
8. Ratios
9. Partnership

zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:43 AM

One more question plz

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khanbaba512 Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:43 AM

[QUOTE=zaaraqutab;901609]An these are just for 50 marks accounting portion(part b cost obviously not included yet)

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for cost accounting you have to prepare
1.Cost of goods manufactured and Cost of Goods sold statement
2. variance analysis (Standard costing: Material, Labour, and Overheads)
3.Process costing (Cost of production report),
4. inventory valuation methods,
5. EOQ.
6. For theory cover different types of costs, and difference between financial accounting and cost accounting.

zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:47 AM

Q no 2 paper 2012

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zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:48 AM

Please guide me regarding this question

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zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:50 AM

Is it a trial balance given in statement form
How to prepare trial balance from it?

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khanbaba512 Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:51 AM

[QUOTE=zaaraqutab;901613]Q no 2 paper 2012

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i don't have this question paper with me..kindly quote the question or share rough scheme

zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:53 AM

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zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 04:54 AM

It also requires a balance sheet and owners equity

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khanbaba512 Thursday, January 07, 2016 05:00 AM

Income statement question.. 3rd chapter miggs and miggs..Seperate balance sheet items from income statement items. and prepare an income statement only

zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 05:02 AM

So you say that we can generate all the requirements from this statement?

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zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 05:04 AM

Will you please check my solution? tomorrow i ll try to share it in the same thread

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khanbaba512 Thursday, January 07, 2016 05:05 AM

[QUOTE=zaaraqutab;901620]So you say that we can generate all the requirements from this statement?

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We only need Revenue and Expenses items for income statement. commission earned is revenue while depreciation is an expense.

zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 05:08 AM

And the point
In addition furniture worth 50000 is purchased amount ll be paid in next year
What does it mean?

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khanbaba512 Thursday, January 07, 2016 05:12 AM

this is a balance sheet item

for income statement u need revenues and expenses take this sample

ABC
Income statement
for the year ended...

[U]Revenue[/U]

Commision earned xxx

[U]Expenses:[/U]

rent expense xxx
salaries xxx
depreciation [U]xxx[/U] [U]xxx[/U]

Net income xxx

zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 05:14 AM

Im asking what ll we do with it in balance sheet?how we ll write the mentioned 50000 purchase on cradit in blnce sheet

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zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 05:15 AM

Is it our liability?
Bills payable?

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zaaraqutab Thursday, January 07, 2016 05:19 AM

One more thing.
Plz plz plzzzzzzz suggest me a good book for auditing plzzzzzz

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khanbaba512 Thursday, January 07, 2016 05:19 AM

yes..it is listed in assets as well as liabilities.


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