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Hrstar Friday, November 06, 2020 11:44 PM

Question Regarding the application of Hobbes in modern day political systems or polic
 
Hello, I am preparing for the CE-2021. I wanted to know if anyone could guide me regarding the application of hobbes in modern day policy making or political systems. I am rather confused by the question.

Cheers!

SikanderAbbasi Saturday, November 07, 2020 09:32 PM

I also need to know how Hobbes's and Locke's political philosophy hold relevance today:mellow:. Kindly share useful links if anyone has

omerakram22 Sunday, November 08, 2020 12:21 AM

[QUOTE=SikanderAbbasi;1117769]I also need to know how Hobbes's and Locke's political philosophy hold relevance today:mellow:. Kindly share useful links if anyone has[/QUOTE]

Aoa Sikander, can you guide me regarding CLaw? How can i prepare it? and some specific paper attempting technique for it?

ayyiamus Thursday, November 19, 2020 05:45 PM

Hobbes is one of the modern forefathers of the idea of socialism. His work suggests two ways of planning over the human action: first, it establishes an indirect mechanism that intervenes before the action takes place by manipulating the own mechanisms of motivation, say, replacing the moral assessment with the imposture of law (the notion of ideological control over the motivation of individual action). Secondly, it establishes a more direct way to determine human action, in which coercion is a threat for those who try to avoid what the State expects (the coercive modeling of individual and social human action by the Leviathan-State, and as an effect of this, of the economic dimension). To justify this systematic way of ideological and social planning Hobbes puts together three basic concepts: first, the idea that the State is the only one capable of conceding property - and at the same time of taking it away -, second, the ideological control, and third, the notion that the State must attend the deprived and defenseless as part of its program of legitimacy of the practice of absolute power. In his works we find already the justification of the State as a despotic institution that plans the ideological factor for the human being, showing him what religion must he profess, which books can and cannot read, which ideas are pernicious and which ones must be banned, abducting the imaginary of the individual, giving him a series of particular deliberations on what is good, beautiful, and admirable, as well as what is ugly, disgusting and reprehensible. Likewise, it can be found in his work the idea that the State is the one in charge of giving to each according to their needs, say, of determining the ways of appropriation of the results of work, of establishing property as a prerogative of the sovereign (who does not comply with any pre-establish right of the individuals), and the distribution of incomes and recognitions. Likewise, his totalitarian concept of ruling out the individual as a relevant political entity represents a novelty: stripped from his freedom, ideologically controlled by a tutor who makes all the decisions about his believes, acceptable ideas, or religion through a more geometrico kind of argumentation.

SikanderAbbasi Thursday, November 19, 2020 10:46 PM

[QUOTE=ayyiamus;1118043]Hobbes is one of the modern forefathers of the idea of socialism. His work suggests two ways of planning over the human action: first, it establishes an indirect mechanism that intervenes before the action takes place by manipulating the own mechanisms of motivation, say, replacing the moral assessment with the imposture of law (the notion of ideological control over the motivation of individual action). Secondly, it establishes a more direct way to determine human action, in which coercion is a threat for those who try to avoid what the State expects (the coercive modeling of individual and social human action by the Leviathan-State, and as an effect of this, of the economic dimension). To justify this systematic way of ideological and social planning Hobbes puts together three basic concepts: first, the idea that the State is the only one capable of conceding property - and at the same time of taking it away -, second, the ideological control, and third, the notion that the State must attend the deprived and defenseless as part of its program of legitimacy of the practice of absolute power. In his works we find already the justification of the State as a despotic institution that plans the ideological factor for the human being, showing him what religion must he profess, which books can and cannot read, which ideas are pernicious and which ones must be banned, abducting the imaginary of the individual, giving him a series of particular deliberations on what is good, beautiful, and admirable, as well as what is ugly, disgusting and reprehensible. Likewise, it can be found in his work the idea that the State is the one in charge of giving to each according to their needs, say, of determining the ways of appropriation of the results of work, of establishing property as a prerogative of the sovereign (who does not comply with any pre-establish right of the individuals), and the distribution of incomes and recognitions. Likewise, his totalitarian concept of ruling out the individual as a relevant political entity represents a novelty: stripped from his freedom, ideologically controlled by a tutor who makes all the decisions about his believes, acceptable ideas, or religion through a more geometrico kind of argumentation.[/QUOTE]

Could you please exemplify any state in today's politics where aspects of Hobbe's political philosophy are adopted

Hrstar Wednesday, December 02, 2020 09:01 AM

Hello Sikander, I have made my note on both of these if you still require them.

SikanderAbbasi Wednesday, December 02, 2020 04:23 PM

[QUOTE=Hrstar;1118273]Hello Sikander, I have made my note on both of these if you still require them.[/QUOTE]

Earnestly required. Please send them to my email: [email]sikander.kalhoro.92@hotmail.com[/email]. thanks in anticipation:D


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