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who is real founder of slave dynasty ..Aibak ,illtutmish or balban ????
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Since you have put this question up, main apni aik confusion dour karwa loon Why Balban as well as Aibak are not considered the real founders?
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Since you have put this question up, main apni aik confusion dour karwa loon Why Balban as well as Aibak are not considered the real founders?
pehly kaunce confusion the apko

isko prove be to karen atleat 2-4 lines he keh dalen but khaley kholey name cee kiya khta he.phir me share karun ge
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isko prove be to karen atleat 2-4 lines he keh dalen but khaley kholey name cee kiya khta he.phir me share karun ge
Okay if you insist to phir let me quote;

What makes him the real founder:

i- Organized the state, gave it its nascent form.
ii- Organized the finances, gave its currency and economic measures
iii- Organized Chilghani (corps of the Forty) to control the Nobles.
iv- Punitive actions against the Rajputs, nobles like Yildoz and Qubachah.
v- Initiated land reforms, like the mansabdari system.
vi- Gave the Muslim state in India its first capital Delhi.

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I was thinking of starting Indo Pak history..Plz suggest me books
Gurl I assume you are planning to appear in the next year which gives you ample time so buy K.Ali and read it inside out ye khatam ho jaye to ask again, we will tell you the next one.(But this one is the most comprehensive book on Indo pak)
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Okay if you insist to phir let me quote;

What makes him the real founder:

i- Organized the state, gave it its nascent form.
ii- Organized the finances, gave its currency and economic measures
iii- Organized Chilghani (corps of the Forty) to control the Nobles.
iv- Punitive actions against the Rajputs, nobles like Yildoz and Qubachah.
v- Initiated land reforms, like the mansabdari system.
vi- Gave the Muslim state in India its first capital Delhi.

AB YAE headings ap ne qasim ke de ,farq sirf etna tha wa pe "not" tha .. Iltutmish KA PVS YEAR clear cut ans he question me .ke wo real fouder he but kasiy ye prove krna he .. ab balban q nae??waisy to nasir-uddin.alla-ud-din,razia sultan ,kekbah and bughra aur be bht ce king guzrey but ye 3 slaves q dominant hen and un me IL tutmish he q real fouder he.. ye mujy in heaidngs me nae mil ra he.. ya mery nazer ka chasma kamzoor he

bagawat to her koe khtam karta he.tutmish ne kiya naookah kiay and forty banaey ke elave keo qaam aisa ne jo baqe kings na kia ho
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AB YAE headings ap ne qasim ke de ,farq sirf etna tha wa pe "not" tha .. Iltutmish KA PVS YEAR clear cut ans he question me .ke wo real fouder he but kasiy ye prove krna he .. ab balban q nae??waisy to nasir-uddin.alla-ud-din,razia sultan ,kekbah and bughra aur be bht ce king guzrey but ye 3 slaves q dominant hen and un me IL tutmish he q real fouder he.. ye mujy in heaidngs me nae mil ra he.. ya mery nazer ka chasma kamzoor he

bagawat to her koe khtam karta he.tutmish ne kiya naookah kiay and forty banaey ke elave keo qaam aisa ne jo baqe kings na kia ho
well wo baaqi sub kyun nahin(balban, nasir-uddin, allauddin, razia sultana ,kekbah and bughra), yahi to meri confusion hai, this was your part of the deal Balke ab meray answer ki ye critique daikh kar to Iltutmish kyun tha real founder, ye bhi aap hi bata dijiye
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well wo baaqi sub kyun nahin(balban, nasir-uddin, allauddin, razia sultana ,kekbah and bughra), yahi to meri confusion hai, this was your part of the deal Balke ab meray answer ki ye critique daikh kar to Iltutmish kyun tha real founder, ye bhi aap hi bata dijiye
You have good sense of humor.

1.qutub din aibak
2.Ilutmish
3.aram shah
4.Allaudin --?
5.razia sultana
6.Nasir ud din
7.Giyas ud din balban
8.bughra and kekbah

1. Aibak good admin to tha mgr vo bht jald chal basa. Bechara
2. Aram shah ko aram ke bht adat th so umra ne usko aram ce kingshp c exclud kr dya.

3. Razia sultana rahe women aur phr abysinan ke ishq ne usko takht ce mehrom krdya.

4. Nasirudin tha to pious bt vo kath putli tha .so kbe kath putlian be achy lafzo me yad ke jaty.

5. Bughra tha to intazam ke qabil mgr usne king shp leny ce inkar krdya.
6. Kekbah ko mastyo and azady ne mafloj krdya .balban ne us pe bht sakhty ke th so he was a great womenizer and drunkard.

Ab baqe 2 reh jaty hen wo Iltutmish and balbon.

Pehly hazrat to wali ULLAH th. Unko true successor kahen g .
1. Justice. Hstory me insaf ke misalen kum he. He was precursor of sher shah in matter of justice. Khawjazz tak court me aye jub khawja muin.ud.din pe tuhmat lagy.

2. A true diplomat.
Nascant ce empire larae ce mazid tot jaty so bht chal ce taj ud din yldoz ko baz rakha. Khawazam shah ke sath dealing iske diplomacy ke maya naz misal.

3. Forty band bnaya jo ke acha tha .but iske negative asrat be th.

4. Nasir ud din qabacha ce larae tb ke jb changez mara so wo ek wise person tha.

5. Frontier pe check post qaim ke. .taky mangol ce bacha jae.

Balbon
1. Racial discrimnation
2. Destruction of forty
3. Prostration ke rasum ka agaz usne kya.
Ye points uske achy kam ko zail kr daity.qk usky marny ke bad slave dynasty ka khatma hwa
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Why was Iltutmish consider as real founder??
buddy ! it has been proved .put your query so I can answer wel
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Hey Sadia I couldn't find enough material on religious reforms/policy of Sher Shah Suri. Can you give me some pointers please?
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how do you remember the dates?
i forget them.
found histroy hard.
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