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The commas were inserted in the english version of the MCQ not the urdu version. If the sequnce was asked by the examiner then the commas must have been inserted in the urdu version also. But, in the urdu version the complete arabic phrase is written which means Muhammad Allah key Rasool Hain (MuhammadurRasulullah).
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@ Ayezza
From the beginning till now, my emphasis was on the words stamp is comprised of and you laid all your stress on how it is read. Of course everyone knows how to read it but the question is not about it. Neither have they asked about its meaningful interpretation. Anas (RA) reports that “The carving on the Prophet’s ring was in three lines: Muhammad in a line, Rasool in another, and Allah in a line.” (Related by Al-Bukhari, Muslim, Abu Dawood, and Al-Nassaie.) This is further clarified by a report mentioning that the name of God, Allah, was in the top line, and the Prophet’s name, Muhammad, was in the bottom line. This is because the Prophet did not wish his name to be above God’s name. This is what the stamp is comprised of. The questions isn't about the signature, interpretation, or how it is to be read.
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@!last island.
yes it was MOHAMMAD-the prophet ov ALLAH...i cant teach you arabic..nw end this all... ywhy didnt they use the commas in urdu version?and i knw this hadeeth as well.y dont u say anything about this k wat that mohar was which u narrated in the last ov ur replies.?hw abt that.? i bid adieu to all strife@usman thanks a million brother atleast someone understands..im missing edward saed today!these ajamis are vry hard to handle...in urdu version the ans was vivid-MUBARAK alfaz on the stamp.in arabic ALLAH rasool MOHAMMAD has no meaning and nothing ov my prophet was without reason... @black coffee... once i asked it from an aalim...what was written on the mohar?..he said the same as you write wen you use ur dad,s stamp-name then his designation in services-our PrOPHET s.a.w.w didnt use his name first so it was written in the "counter patern" but read and deemed in the same way Mohammad THE PROPHET OF ALLAH..they were supposed to ask the sequence in earnest..for aalims there is no doubt abt it,i just asked it again frm smeone much learned than us all. @last island...im answring as i dnt knw if i was vivid in narrating the hadith number to you all in the last msg-"baab number 375-jild-2 sahi bukhari."..mohar wasnt composed ov words.it makes no stark difference even if i was wrong, but you need to knw about mohar-e-nabuvat in a vivid way.thx. |
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.هذا هو الفرق بيني وبينكم. انظر لنفسك. الكلمات التي اتسمت الغرور كما لو أننا جميعا أميون تماما
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sherry.j (Monday, March 15, 2010) |
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@ usman khalid
before attempting anything in this paper I used to read the English and the Urdu both the statements, there were many things that meant (slightly) different in english from what was asked in urdu. anyways the question was about "Muhra-e-Nabuwat ki tahrir in alfaz par mustamil ha." It meant sequence not how it is read. And more over it is useless to keep discussing it here. What ever ans has already been feed in the computer is the ultimate ans. So quit this topic, bro.
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And more over it is useless to keep discussing it here. What ever ans has already been fed in the computer is the ultimate ans. So quit this topic, bro.
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It could simply mean the words not the meanings.
If it had been about the meaning of the words than it would have been Muhammad Rasool Ullah. But the question was notmuhr-e-nabuwat par darj alfaaz ka mafhoom kya tha but Muhr-e-Nabuwat kin alfaaz par mushtamil ha Now I would like to quetion about the arrangment of the words: ALLAH, RASOOL, MUHAMMAD. Why the Prophet (P.B.U.H.) set this arrangment and not Muhammad Rasool Ullah as it is in ARABIC "La Ilaha Il'L Allah Muhammad Ur Rasool Ullah" (Allah forbid if I wrote this with any mistake). Please the learned arguers should reply... |
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courage! i kinda like agree with you, the way the question was asked. about your query "Last Island" has already answered that previously...
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AoA,
Logic behind the sequence of words to write as – Allah, Rasool, Muhammad was solely aimed at to keep the name of Almighty Allah above all. The Holy Prophet (PBUH) intentionally placed the name of Allah on the top of the stamp, so as to ensure dignity and glory of Allah (SWT). The Holy Prophet (PBUH) did not want to place his name above the name of Allah. As a Muslim and staunch follower of the Holy Prophet, we must follow the acts of the Holy Prophet (PBHU) and the Holy Prophet (PBUH) preferred the name of Allah on the top of the stamp. Thus by first look at stamp we get these words – Allah, Rasool, Muhammad. regards,
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