CIA & RAW successful in destablising Pakistan.

[Muhammad T S Awan]

Current news;

- Baluch leaders assassinated
- Agreement denounced by Taliban leaders in Swat
- Political instability, law and order situation, highest ratio of taxes etc
- Hike up of suicide bombing

The above conditions imply that;

- CIA and RAW in consonance to MOSAD and KHAD are considerably successful in maneuvering for destabilization of our homeland

Government has failed in implementing any effective foreign and interior policies....

[Zirwaan Khan]

What makes you so sure that CIA and RAW are behind the assassination of Baloch leaders ?? What is your source of information??

[Islaw Khan]

well ofcourse all these are correct

but as we all know that the whole mess started during the time of G.musharraf...... when he responded positivly to the US telephonic call and uptill now we have to bear the brunt.

If ve observe.... we find a hostile regime in afghanistan in all time is one form or the other..... it was only the TALIBAN regime which was friendly to pak.

by sidelining with US we lost that also and uptill now suffering the consequences....and will have to see many more...

well as for as Pakistan foreign policy is concernd..... if u study the book PAK FOREIGN POLICY A REPRAISAL BY SHAHID m AMIN.... U WILL COME TO KNOW that pakistn foreigh policy is always after the decesions of politicainz at the helm of affairs.... no doubt we are facing a leadership vacume since 1948... after JINNAH....

we want to write more and more but i think of no use..... pakistan is at the mercy of our corrupt politicaianz and the generla masses well suffer and suffer and suffer......

islah...

[Khakan]

Today in Quetta the hooligans alongwith protestors made the life of the citizens hell. Whosoever is involved in the killings of politicians we are not concerned with them we want peace and a stable federations (Pakistan). It is confirmed reporst that some people have links with RAW and MOSAD in Balochistan situation. Those who are demanding freedon, live in fools paradise.

I am concerned with the security of the citizens who are suffering every day. The are numerous parties who call for strike, shutter down and wheel jam. We are tired of that. Govt must start operation to punish the rebels who want to divide the federation and free the citizens from the clutches of pirates. It is not a war for liberatin but it is for wealth. You can see the hooligans and protestors, all are uneducated and illeterate because of the Nawabi and Sardari system and the are mere tools they don't know what they are doing.




I Love You

[Lord AvaLon]

Originally Posted by Khakan

Today in Quetta the hooligans alongwith protestors made the life of the citizens hell. Whosoever is involved in the killings of politicians we are not concerned with them we want peace and a stable federations (Pakistan). It is confirmed reporst that some people have links with RAW and MOSAD in Balochistan situation. Those who are demanding freedon, live in fools paradise.

I am concerned with the security of the citizens who are suffering every day. The are numerous parties who call for strike, shutter down and wheel jam.

I totally agree with Khakan, though i am not in a liberty to pity the citizens who are the ultimate sufferers of this destabilized condition of Quetta. Being one of them we had to close our offices and conceal our vehicles to avoid being the victims of aggressive attacks by the protestors. Everyday we have to suffer due to devastating news which not only affects our lives but the thousands of people whose only motive is to support their families.

Tabassum Shabbir Awan: How would we justify the involvement of CIA and RAW This time? As those leaders of BNM were arrested from the office of a local Lawyer by our own Agency.


Regards,

[Silent Spectator]

Asslamulaikum,

No, matter, What sort of leader one is, none has the right to kill, harrase him or her!! It is completely injust, but a Question also arises,wether, who killed them?
Our intelligence agencies are upto this extent Weak, that they can't find out the kidnappers?
Obviously after the Assassination of leaders, their fans will become miscreanst and Demonstrators.
But we Strongly condemn the role of RAW and MOSAD along with KHAD here in Quetta.
May Allah guide us the right path!!

Regards....

[Khakan]

Originally Posted by Silent Spectator

Asslamulaikum,

Obviously after the Assassination of leaders, their fans will become miscreanst and Demonstrators.

Regards....

This is the matter which I wanted to point out. Peaceful demonstration is an essential feature of democratic norms but not setting on fire the vehicle, public property especially banks, governmental vehicles, pelting stones on the peaceful citizens and blocking the roads.. Our economy further cannot bear such incidents in future. It is too hard for working clas to survive in this situation.

[Muhammad T S Awan]

I am extremely sorry for belated reply, actually I am having tough schedule so couldn’t further the comments. In follow-up of discussion, it is stated that:

i). After 9/11, Musharraf provided support and intelligence to USA. He allowed CIA and FBI to recruit agents in FATA and other places and to establish their outposts. The focus of ISI and other agencies was shifted towards checking terrorists all over country, in monitoring army officials and political wheelings. CIA acquired all links, which ISI and MI had and CIA gradually took most agents within its fold. Since, it was having better technology and resources, it was able to take over intelligence acquisition and dissemination system. Consequently the troops operating in FATA became entirely dependent upon CIA inputs. Taking advantage of complete liberty of action, CIA succeeded in buying loyalties of many tribal chiefs and notables in FATA, who did not agree were got killed.

Nek Muhammad was first cultivated and provided support by CIA, when he entered into a peace deal with Pakistan Army, he was killed in 2005 using precision guided missile. Abdullah Mehsud, an Afghan war veteran who had also fought the Northern Alliance in October-November 2001 was captured and brainwashed during his detention in Guantanamo Bay, he was released when he agreed to work for CIA. Subsequently he tookover leadership role and later killed by Pakistani security forces. It was a loss for CIA.
Once ISI was freed from wild goose chase and came under pressure on account of missing persons, it started to concentrate on its primary task in the troubled spots. To its horror it found too many militant groups and criminal gangs operating under the guise of religious militants and cultivated by foreign agencies.
Both Baitulah Mehsud and Maulvi Fazlullah did not taken part in Afghan jihad. Mulla Omar of Afghan Taliban movement had never shown any interest in establishing links with Pakistani Taliban and warned Nek Muhammad not to operate under the brand name of Taliban. It is questionable as to how Baitullah, Fazlullah and their spokesmen desperately wanted by Pakistan security forces have escaped the hawk eyes of USA, particularly after they have been seen giving detailed interviews to media and using their cell phones? Why drone planes don’t go to their hide outs?
Subsequently, the CIA used benefit of deprivations caused by federation in Balochistan and made its links in the province. This was a way to keep monitoring in Pakistan as well as in neighboring Iran. Most of pro-Pakistan groups had either been purchased or neutralized and those not coming to terms were eliminated by groups sponsored by CIA. Things had gone topsy-turvy and ISI found itself at a loss how to differentiate between friends and foes.

ii). Around 10,000 Indian troops were stationed in Afghanistan under the garb of supervising construction of road project Jalalabad-Port Chahbahar. The troops had a score of Indian Intelligence elements, who penetrated into Balochistan for making conditions against Pakistan.

India officially declared presence of its 14 Indian consulates in Afghanistan. Factually, there are around 107 consulates, wherein 20 intelligence units are maneuvering to destabilize Pakistan.

iii). In July, 2008, Indian embassy was bombed in Kabul, in retaliation of this bombing, Karachi received trail of seven bombings in Karachi. The CIA Director secretly came to Pakistan on tracing elements of involvement of ISI in Kabul bombing. After about some days the story leaked out that he confronted Government and military officials and gave them evidence of ISI involvement in Kabul bomb attack. Rightly at that moment, CIA director was given response and evidence of involvement of RAW in FATA and Balochistan.

iv). In January 2009, the leading newspaper of Sri Lanka, Daily Mirror, in its editorial criticized ‘role, Indian intelligence agency (RAW), is playing in the regional countries to destabilize them. The editorial has specially referred to Pakistan.” It said, “ Among its (RAW’s) most ambitious operations that are currently underway, is the move to separate Balochistan province from Pakistan …….”

v). In March, 2009, “Some American officials say the [drone] strikes in the tribal areas have forced some leaders of the Taliban and Al Qaeda to flee south toward Quetta, making them more vulnerable. In separate reports, groups led by both Gen. David H. Petraeus, commander of American forces in the region, and Lt. Gen. Douglas E. Lute, a top White House official on Afghanistan, have recommended expanding American operations outside the tribal areas in Balochistan, if Pakistan cannot root out the strengthening insurgency.” They intended to establish roots in the province through intelligence units.

vi). On April 10, 2009, Lahore Capital City Police Officer (CCPO), Pervez Rathore suspected that Indian Intelligence agency, RAW, is behind attacks on Sri Lankan cricket team and Manawa Police Training Academy. He further said that initial investigations have pointed all fingers at India. Similar attacks in Pakistan have further strengthened the suspicion of RAW trying to destabilize Pakistan by promoting terrorist activities in Balochistan and tribal areas. Such activities not only kill military personnel & cut off supply line but also kill local people and arise hatred against other federating units of our country.


To sum up, involvement of RAW and CIA in Balochistan is an open secret. But silence in government circles (both Federal and Balochistan Governments) is adding fuel to fire and its high time for the government to take corrective measures lest the Balochistan becomes another Bengladesh. Everybody knows involvement of India in separation of East Pakistan, but it was also our fault to not listen and favourably respond the grievances of Bengalis.

Dear fellows, government and establishment do not mean only Punjab. Presently, the President is from Sindh and its PPPP have roots in Balochistan as well. So every body in government sections –including in Balochistan Government - is linked with the worsened conditions. They think for their fringe benefits and facilities and remember the masses only during elections.

The worsening situations in Balochistan are not only sad for Balochis [including people living in Balochistan] but it is our issue. Issue of Pakistan, we all are Pakistanis and I – by God- consider Balochis as my brother and any atrocity being done to them is atrocity being done to every Pakistani whether living in Northern Area, or Punjab, or Sindh or NWFP.

Currently, there is election campaign is ongoing in India and every party is gaining scores by maligning our country.

In my thinking instead of blaming each other, we should work together for progress of the country …..