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Dear friends, I am slightly disagree with you people as I firmly believe that jobs must be for those who deserve for. However, I also warmly welcome these recommendations done by the central cabinet of Pakistan as such 5% quota for minorities and 6% for those people who keep Balochistani domicile. I may consider that this is a best step taken by the crown towards inter provincialism and harmony as it makes a sort of guarantee for them to be a part of this system, however, they must work hard to get more jobs rather than to await for further quota system fixed by the government.

In sum, they must struggle for open merit to be a civil servant of Pakistan.

I hope, you may disagree, but this is what I fairly think.

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According to jurists the behaviour of the criminal should be examined as per the situation that evoked someone to act in a specific manner at specific times. Similarly, the claims for open merit should be laid down after the provision of identicle situation to all the countrymen.

Bother, I also 'slightly' disagree with your stance, for the reasons described below.
1) access to quality education throughout the country is not uniform.
2) every individual of a certain nation, belonging to any province, has equal rights to be a part of decision making machinery, rather than being governed by the outsider.
3) facilitate everyone on equal footings, provide them with the well established infrastructure and then induce the candidates on all-open-merit because one cannot expect a fair contest while providing few soldiers with mere swords and their opponents with advanced artillery.

Moreover, the people of minority provinces are not your slaves. They deserve not to be administered by the people coming from far flung areas and deciding for the former's destinies.
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Dear friends, I am slightly disagree with you people as I firmly believe that jobs must be for those who deserve for. However, I also warmly welcome these recommendations done by the central cabinet of Pakistan as such 5% quota for minorities and 6% for those people who keep Balochistani domicile. I may consider that this is a best step taken by the crown towards inter provincialism and harmony as it makes a sort of guarantee for them to be a part of this system, however, they must work hard to get more jobs rather than to await for further quota system fixed by the government.

In sum, they must struggle for open merit to be a civil servant of Pakistan.

I hope, you may disagree, but this is what I fairly think.
My dear bro,i am not going to start a policy debate over the said topic,what i meant to say was that the prevalent quota had been rendering a significant loss to the aspirants here,for it is perceived to be discriminatory, given the small number of qualifiers who barely manage to come up to the standards. Similarly the galloping population,educational backwardness,dearth of quality institutions,lack of educational counseling and couching, growing sense of deprivation and sense of alienation are other factors,which can be taken into consideration,before doling out positions!Moreover,do you really think,that, since the baloch candidates are incompetent and thereby should improvise their caliber?if are of the same notion,then you should voice your concern to invite the attention of the the government to install/establish quality institutions throughout the province.In addition,if the quality/quantity on all fronts including education is any yardstick to treat the people,then why we lose the sight of natural resources being contributed by balochistan?then why dont you recommend the federal government to give it 80% out of the revenues being generated by sendak project instead of giving it A KHAIRAT OF 2 %?Do suggest those who are sitting at the helm of affairs to provide it 50 billions annually in terms of its gas contribution, which accounts for $1.4 bn?Let alone its overwhelming majority,almost 70% which is living below the poverty line and the growing mass deprivation,which are other factors to be aggrieved,the way we seek education till metric is another CSS;owing to nonavailability of infrstructure and acute shortage of quality together with the secondary sufferings,get it confirmed!Thus it would be unsafe to assume that 6% is enough to nudge the provincial harmony rather it should be at least 10%. So often,10 or 13 positions are allocated to the qualifiers ,which leaves the majority frustrated.
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My dear bro,i am not going to start a policy debate over the said topic,what i meant to say was that the prevalent quota had been rendering a significant loss to the aspirants here,for it is perceived to be discriminatory, given the small number of qualifiers who barely manage to come up to the standards. Similarly the galloping population,educational backwardness,dearth of quality institutions,lack of educational counseling and couching, growing sense of deprivation and sense of alienation are other factors,which can be taken into consideration,before doling out positions!Moreover,do you really think,that, since the baloch candidates are incompetent and thereby should improvise their caliber?if are of the same notion,then you should voice your concern to invite the attention of the the government to install/establish quality institutions throughout the province.In addition,if the quality/quantity on all fronts including education is any yardstick to treat the people,then why we lose the sight of natural resources being contributed by balochistan?then why dont you recommend the federal government to give it 80% out of the revenues being generated by sendak project instead of giving it A KHAIRAT OF 2 %?Do suggest those who are sitting at the helm of affairs to provide it 50 billions annually in terms of its gas contribution, which accounts for $1.4 bn?Let alone its overwhelming majority,almost 70% which is living below the poverty line and the growing mass deprivation,which are other factors to be aggrieved,the way we seek education till metric is another CSS;owing to nonavailability of infrstructure and acute shortage of quality together with the secondary sufferings,get it confirmed!Thus it would be unsafe to assume that 6% is enough to nudge the provincial harmony rather it should be at least 10%. So often,10 or 13 positions are allocated to the qualifiers ,which leaves the majority frustrated.

no doubt it is a kind of discriminatory approach towards the people of balochistan, who need immediate attention regarding their real deprivation. after all, shehryar baloch is right, that there must not be such a policy in which they feel as if they are minorities.

therefore, besides increasing their quota, there must be a different set of formula for the distribution of seats among the different communities of the province. for example in sindh, seats are divided to sindh rural and sindh ruban candidates considering the level of education, like wise considering the backwardness of baloch as compared to pakhtoons and hazaras of balochistan there must be reservation of seats for baloch candidates only.

this is my personal opinion. may be i am wrong but i posses right to express my point of view.
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My dear bro,i am not going to start a policy debate over the said topic,what i meant to say was that the prevalent quota had been rendering a significant loss to the aspirants here,for it is perceived to be discriminatory, given the small number of qualifiers who barely manage to come up to the standards. Similarly the galloping population,educational backwardness,dearth of quality institutions,lack of educational counseling and couching, growing sense of deprivation and sense of alienation are other factors,which can be taken into consideration,before doling out positions!Moreover,do you really think,that, since the baloch candidates are incompetent and thereby should improvise their caliber?if are of the same notion,then you should voice your concern to invite the attention of the the government to install/establish quality institutions throughout the province.In addition,if the quality/quantity on all fronts including education is any yardstick to treat the people,then why we lose the sight of natural resources being contributed by balochistan?then why dont you recommend the federal government to give it 80% out of the revenues being generated by sendak project instead of giving it A KHAIRAT OF 2 %?Do suggest those who are sitting at the helm of affairs to provide it 50 billions annually in terms of its gas contribution, which accounts for $1.4 bn?Let alone its overwhelming majority,almost 70% which is living below the poverty line and the growing mass deprivation,which are other factors to be aggrieved,the way we seek education till metric is another CSS;owing to nonavailability of infrstructure and acute shortage of quality together with the secondary sufferings,get it confirmed!Thus it would be unsafe to assume that 6% is enough to nudge the provincial harmony rather it should be at least 10%. So often,10 or 13 positions are allocated to the qualifiers ,which leaves the majority frustrated.
No doubt that Balochistan is facing injustice because they are being given merely 1% more seats than the minorities.The Baloch youth are already feeling frustrated and deprived.Inspite of coming from background where they have very few facilities like low education standard etc,they are competing with the candidates from rest of the country so they deserve to be encouraged and appreciated by providing them with increased quota.government should not provide them another cause for feeling a sense of deprivation.I agree with you Riaz bhayya that government can’t improve the conditions of Balochistan or remove the legitimate grievances of Balochs over nightly.But at least such little steps like increasing their quota they can make for some loss.Moreover it will also help to bring stability in the province when Baloch people will have DMG and PSP officers from their own province as they don’t feel comfortable with the officers from outside Balochistan. Marilatif’s suggestion is also good in this regard.
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