CSS or Pak Navy ? (help me decide)
 

Dear members,

Last Sunday I saw the add for recruitment in Pak Navy as sub-lieutenant in logistics branch. Now I am confused as I want to appear in CSS 2010 for which I am preparing to the best of my abilities. But at the same time I don't want to let go the Navy opportunity as it would be my last chance to join any of the armed forces due to my age.

CSS is my passion, obsession and junoon and I really want to do it but at the same time Navy is also very attracting. Therefore all members peculiarly seniors are requested to throw some light on this matter please.

Career in civil services and in Armed forces differ as much as their preparation and selection criteria.In order to join navy u have to qualify Issb tests and interview,while for selecton in civil services require lengthy and cumbersome competitive examination comprising of twelve papers.Only psychological tests of civil services relate in some way or other with psychoogical test at Issb.Thus I think u can easily opt for both choices.But dear selection procedure of Armed forces is much speedy in comparison with selection procedure of civil services.If u get selected in Navy it will be much earler than march,2010 when C-E 2010 will take place.Therefore u would not be able to take C-E 2010.But still my suggestion to u would be to apply for Navy and see whether u get selected or not.But u should at least apply and take drastic decision only when u qualify Issb between Css and career in Navy.CHEERS

Thank you brother.:rrolleyes Your suggestion is really encouraging. I'll let you know if i clear/fail the navy test.

As per the best of my knowledge, you can attempt css while being a part of any armed services. But the process of CSS from armed forces is little bit different and easy. If you are member of any armed forces, you have to attepmt only one written paper of General Knowledge type and after that psychological test and interview process is left. So if you are 26 years old it is a best opportunity for you to join navy, taste it and reap the benefits of navy to be the part of civil services.

I am not confirmed that the process of moving into civil services is same in navy too as I have mentioned above because the source through which I
have come to know about this information is of Pak-Army. But I would recommend you to consult this interpersonally with any armed forces personnel. And I think that person can lead you to the finale conclusion that either you are going for navy, or not.

Regards and Reverence

@shah110

Thank you shah sb for your kind input. Your comments are motivating and i would definitely consult with some Navy officer regarding CSS. But certainly I would appear for the Navy test while at the same time preparing for CSS as well.
Navy is an opportunity at the right time but CSS is a dream of life time.

dont choose navy
 

[B]dear salam
it is better to choose css because i also applied for navy commission till last everythng was right but suddenly i was shocked to heard that my name is not in those who selected,reason i have no family member in force.
i think u understood that wht i m going to clear obviously(nepotism).
another thing, that in navy you should work under the officer but in css officers work under you,remember one thing that we have age to appllied another time for navy but have limited age for css.now decide that what you want ..........[U]as boss or as follower[/U].
sunny[/B]

@ sunnyali
Armed Forces selection is one of few institutions which are based purely on merit............. Do you think all who are selected for commission has mates in the armed forces then perhaps you may not sound wise.
Some wise once said:-
" You cannot see the picture until you are inside the frame "
Selection is tough in armed forces for example e.g. in PMA long course 113 around 40000+ candidates applied and do you know how much selected????? 357 only. Hence commission in Pak army or armed forces is not every one's job.

@ floydian
Brother, post this query again when you have the Joining Instructions of Pakistan Naval Academy for commission in your hand....(after clearing intial written, medical, interview then ISSB & AFMB-Armed Forces Medical Board Examination).
Concentrate only on your preparation of CSS and of Naval initials & ISSB. If luckily you'll be selected then post this query on forum.

And lastly dont compare armed forces & civil services.... it depends on one's passion aptitude and lots of other factors.

As for coming into civil service from the armed forces is concerned... Let me tell you brother they never release the man who is right for the job(or usefull in his/her service)..... and at least you need a 3-5 years of service before being released for any other service.

best of luck,
regards,

[B]@sunnyali[/B]

Thanks Mr. sunny for sharing your experience and useful comments. My dad is an army officer and i know the selection criteria of armed forces very well. To be honest I have no passion for Pak Navy whatsoever. The only reason I want to apply for it is that it would be my last chance to join any of the armed forces. I respect Navy, Air Force and Pak Army to death and that is it.

[B]@Noman[/B]

Quote "As for coming into civil service from the armed forces is concerned... Let me tell you brother they never release the man who is right for the job(or usefull in his/her service)..... and at least you need a 3-5 years of service before being released for any other service."Unquote

Very rightly said. This is what I confirmed with a Naval Officer just 2 days ago. And now perhaps due to this reason I have made the decision to concentrate only on my CSS preparation and forget about the distractions. Inshallah I am planning to top the CE 2010 atleast in Sind(urban). Thank you sir for your valuable comments.

regards and respect,
floydian

Dear u have a both option of option of choosing the profession.But i have also applied for the commision in Pak navy as a sub leitinent.My age is almost 25 years and this is my last chance of issb. but after that i have concentrare on the css prepartion.

Dear,

I would say appear in Naval tests, no problem, it won't take much of your time.
Apart from Pak Navy, you can appear in PAF as well until age of 26 yrs in ADWC or Logistics etc.

And just go for it, as far as CSS prep is going you are already doing it...
So lets see what would be the results of Naval Logistics Branch.
Secondly, do let me know is it a permanent commision through ISSB or is it direct select through NHQ (Naval HeadQuarters)?

ISSB is interesting, you would love the experience ;) I bet!

[QUOTE=floydian]Dear members,

Last Sunday I saw the add for recruitment in Pak Navy as sub-lieutenant in logistics branch. Now I am confused as I want to appear in CSS 2010 for which I am preparing to the best of my abilities. But at the same time I don't want to let go the Navy opportunity as it would be my last chance to join any of the armed forces due to my age.

CSS is my passion, obsession and junoon and I really want to do it but at the same time Navy is also very attracting. Therefore all members peculiarly seniors are requested to throw some light on this matter please.[/QUOTE]

Salam,
Brother just Go For Navy.
" JOIN PAK NAVY SEE THE WORLD".

There is nothing like source in Forces. All depends upon your abilities. I myself being a son of a Primary School Teacher had cleared the Navy ISSB 2006-A Term in 18 Grading (The Highest ever grading for passing out any ISSB Test, which then allows you to join any of the Armed Forces), with no family background of Forces, yet i qualified. Although i was only left out coz of my Knee-Knock Problem in Final Medical and Yet I was offered to join with a condition that i would retire as Lt-Commander (Major). But Then i Said Good Bye to it.
Navy Life is very charming than all other forces and even the Civil Services.
You Are also BOSS here in NAVY coz u r a commisioned Officer and you are saluted by all of ur juniors .
One intresting thing that u will see the World, What else u require.
And the forces are getting nowadays twice the pay what a civil servant get.

During My Preparation of ISSB my Moto Was " JOIN PAK NAVY , SEE THE WORLD.

" HIMAT KA AALAM, ALLAH KA KARAM, MOJON PE QADAM "

[QUOTE=Janas]

Secondly, do let me know is it a permanent commision through ISSB or is it direct select through NHQ (Naval HeadQuarters)?

ISSB is interesting, you would love the experience ;) I bet![/QUOTE]

Dear Janas

Yes it is a permanent commission through ISSB. Written Test will be held on 13 July 2009.

@Sky Is Thy Limit

Thank you brother for sharing your experience. That was interesting but in the end Allah must have had much better plans for you. And yea Navy life is charming and logistics branch (thand program) is even sweeter. But I believe my destiny lies in Civil Services.

regards,
floydian

[QUOTE=floydian]Dear Janas

Yes it is a permanent commission through ISSB. Written Test will be held on 13 July 2009.

@Sky Is Thy Limit

Thank you brother for sharing your experience. That was interesting but in the end Allah must have had much better plans for you. And yea Navy life is charming and logistics branch (thand program) is even sweeter. But I believe my destiny lies in Civil Services.

regards,
floydian[/QUOTE]

Its good. Coz I am also now searching my future in Civil Services. I was too intended to Join The Logistics Group.
Hope we may both achieve our Goal in Civil Services (Aameen).

There is no comparison between CSS and a service in Pakistan Navy. The simple fact is that while many navy officers at some stage in their career would want induction in civil services, NO CSS officer would ever wish to join the navy.

Regards,

[QUOTE=Adil Memon]There is no comparison between CSS and a service in Pakistan Navy. The simple fact is that while many navy officers at some stage in their career would want induction in civil services, NO CSS officer would ever wish to join the navy.

Regards,[/QUOTE]

Very well said Mr. Memon. But I guess CSS officers in Pakistan Post, Military lands and Pak Railways would love to switch over :haha .

[quote=floydian]Dear members,

Last Sunday I saw the add for recruitment in Pak Navy as sub-lieutenant in logistics branch. Now I am confused as I want to appear in CSS 2010 for which I am preparing to the best of my abilities. But at the same time I don't want to let go the Navy opportunity as it would be my last chance to join any of the armed forces due to my age.

CSS is my passion, obsession and junoon and I really want to do it but at the same time Navy is also very attracting. Therefore all members peculiarly seniors are requested to throw some light on this matter please.[/quote]
Dear as per your above quoted statement it seems you like both professions, well as far as the navy is concerned as you have mentioned that their recruitment has almost started and if i am not wrong the navy sellection test doesn't involve very hard written exam preparation, in navy's sellection some other traits like intelligence, mental strenght and effeciency is seen where as in CSS apart from Interview its all academic game.

So, my advice would be to appear in both exams as for navy tetst you 'll not have to devot much of time and once you are over with the navy test you can always re-join your CSS preparation.

Best of Luck and may you get what you want..(Ameen)

[quote=floydian]Very well said Mr. Memon. But I guess CSS officers in Pakistan Post, Military lands and Pak Railways would love to switch over :haha .[/quote]
I dont think so...atleast there is no such example in the history of our country...!!!!

[B]@Red.Hawk[/B]

Thanks for the input. I appreciate it. Yes I like Navy but my obsession is CSS. I was really confused just few days ago but after getting feedback from Naval Officers my instincts are compelling me now to shrug off the distractions (Navy in this case) and go for the ultimate tests.

And yea CSPs are not allowed to join armed forces and that is why there is no such example in the history of our country.

regards,
floydian

floydian:

I don't think so there is much left to say as you have already been given suggestions from our prestigious members but i would like to add something. It totally depends upon you to decide which profession suits you and where you are needed to serve at your best. A number of officers from Army appear in the competitive exam but i have never heard of any CSP, no matter if belong to the aforementioned groups have ever tried to switch thier jobs. Even there are a number of CSP's who resigned in order to take part in politics, though i don't remember well but most of them are briefly discussed in another thread. So simply its only the matter of interest rather than the tag name and incentives you are given along with the job you are going to opt for.
No matter if Navy or Css, only think what you have to offer these honourable services.

[QUOTE=Lord AvaLon]
No matter if Navy or Css, only think what you have to offer these honourable services.[/QUOTE]

The best advise so far. And its true that both Navy and Civil Services are prestigious careers.

regards,
floydian.