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[/SIZE][/FONT] [FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Solution is very simple. A true Islamic State can give woman and man complete rights without any discrimination of gender in the specified fields of life. That period of Muhammad (S.A.W) and the reigns of first four Khalifas were purely Islamic and Role of Justice was at peak. Therefore, woman of that time could participate in practical fields keeping her within the limits of Islam.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Now see, where is Islam, of that period, in the world. Have we the justice & judges like of Islamic period. So called proprietors of Woman’s Rights and Justice are still on the footpath. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Watch around you, how many men and women are passing their lives according to Islam? Do they know their duties & rights, rights of others? Every one is struggling to get more and more ones rights. Where are duties? Is a man paying his duties and a woman vice versa? Just a war of rights? What is our so called civilization, a kingdom of beasts? Have we learned from the nature and its creatures, how they are passing life? How much the birds and animals are saving food, making properties etc. for their mortal life? I never see an eagle to go for a prey after having its food. If we realize ourselves, we are still beasts, having a lust for mortal life. [/SIZE][/FONT]
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[FONT=Verdana][SIZE=2]Dear, an Islamic State is mandatory for the whole mankind where Muslims & Non‑Muslims, woman & man, husband & wife, sister & brother etc. would have the equal rights & justice. If you want to get your full rights & justice than first struggle for Islamic State.[/SIZE][/FONT]
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@fawadkhan
no doubt ur solution is the best.but u r talking abt the perfection w/h comes with the passage f time n after consistent pursuit f that goal.what cn b the most primitive efforts???

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I hope u through some light.regards[/QUOTE]

well, here i am thoughing light, despite loadsheding in pakistan:pipe

what i meant by revolution is in social arena of our country. If you just reflect over the position of women in todays society as compared to two-three decades back, you will comeup with a positive shift. social processes of such kinds take time. as it is more or less connected with a mindset, and this mind set will hopefully be changed in the coming years.

@Black avenger.

well, why to put all pressure on individual feminests. Civil society, (particularly the media compaing) is doing enough for women emancipation. one should not take individual cases. Individuals and individual cases are not the yard sticks for measuring success. we should take broader view, whether any substantial step has been taken for women rights or not?

And a substantial step has been taken today as the Bill against the harassment of women at work place is passed today by the National Assembly of Pakistan ! :pipe Congrats all.

[QUOTE=Sabah Hunzai;165285]well, here i am thoughing light, despite loadsheding in pakistan:pipe
what i meant by revolution is in social arena of our country. If you just reflect over the position of women in todays society as compared to two-three decades back, you will comeup with a positive shift. social processes of such kinds take time. as it is more or less connected with a mindset, and this mind set will hopefully be changed in the coming years.[QUOTE]

thats called optomism.we need both optimism as well as activism.

doing things according to the schedule f loadshedding :)) O thats what we call adoptation.
good luck Pakistan.

[QUOTE=Sociologist PU;165287]And a substantial step has been taken today as the Bill against the harassment of women at work place is passed today by the National Assembly of Pakistan ! :pipe Congrats all.[/QUOTE]

congrats.we hp for the best,eventhough we know we are good in making laws n policies but poor in execution.regards

bill
 

the positive aspect of this bill, in my opinion, is security of women in workplaces will be insured, and hesitatant families or women will be motivated for doing various professions, which once considered to be insecure. Aparently, the dark side of the bill seems in its actual excuation Judiciary is not that much fast in our country. cases will remain unsolved for years and years.

[QUOTE=Sabah Hunzai;165295]the positive aspect of this bill, in my opinion, is security of women in workplaces will be[FONT="Arial Black"] insured[/FONT], and hesitatant families or women will be motivated for doing various professions, which once considered to be insecure. Aparently, the dark side of the bill seems in its actual excuation Judiciary is not that much fast in our country. cases will remain unsolved for years and years.[/QUOTE]

insurance is something we cannot n should not seek.ya but of course it would encourage her!

well, why to put all pressure on individual feminests. Civil society, (particularly the media compaing) is doing enough for women emancipation. one should not take individual cases. Individuals and individual cases are not the yard sticks for measuring success. we should take broader view, whether any substantial step has been taken for women rights or not?


Lol did u even read my posts? I dont think that u did cuz if u had u wudnt have said so.And I do not need to clear my self as I stated the facts not just random admiration.

ok talk about revolution

tell me how many revolutions have changed the status of ppl(notice the word people) in world?

start from the first one
American,French,Iranian,feminist,communist,socialist.Revolution is just another name of killing old masters and creating new masters.revolutions just create new slaves.A revolution is insignificant unless change starts from within. and as I said before change is a gradual process.Doesnt come easy.Because everyone has his/her own definition of important things such as education,emancipation,liberty,feminism,chauvinism and stuff. You cannot just put the label of *backward* on a few people and leave them because *YOU THINK SO*. The mentality like this does not bring any change ,just creates conflicts.

If a social revolution is necessary,who will bring that,Do you have a leader who can help all people and take all people with him...can solve the issues of all of them and treat them equally?...I do not see any.

So the situation comes back to the household.A woman no matter how subjugated she is,has the power to change the mentality of her children,or make them respect certain stuff.She can create an equity based environment in her home.She can teach her sons that its ok for a girl to ride a bike and can teach her girls that its ok for guys to cry.No biggie about that.Small things like that go a very long way.When we start respecting the equality of both genders in small things,we automatically start a process of recognizing the ultimate strength of both genders.

Fighting will never solve nothing,respect and interest in the matter might do so.

so the burden is back on her shoulders."She can change the mantality of her children"thats somethng most desired but thats where the very problem begins,how she would think of doing something she never imagined.she is contended with what she is "taken",no amount of brutality and no extent of violation f her rights has jolted her ever.
we need to give her tasks thats what cn be done to invoke her participation,n once she is in more can b done to awake her conscience.

@Black Avenger.
I couldn't get anything new in your thread except your misconception about my approach. Dear, I am not ignorant of contextuality, which you have identified. I know, perceptions vary from context to context. what I expressed about the gradual process has been rephrased by you. well, I was not judgemental about all sort of revolutions, I just pointed out, for women emancipation we cannot expect any revolution. I think, one should not stick with a particular side, because, each issue has two dimentions. we should see its both dimentions.
@Kawish
just wait, before putting burden on women for reorientation of children's mind, we should keep this in our minds that a women cannot break the very fibre of a culture, for it she must be educated enough. just one example, tell, how many mothers became happy when they give birth to a baby girl. why most of the women if not all, wish for a baby boy. these are some of the unthought questions we should think about.