Benefits for Pakistan in a Peaceful Afghanistan

[rose_pak]

Let us discuss Why Pakistan should seek peace in Afghanistan or What benefit Pakistan would get due to stability in Afghanistan

Please be precise and to the point

[marilatif]

pakistan really need peace in afghanistan as india want peace in pakistan for her economic developement. paksitan wil get a lot of benefits if true peace is prevailed in afghanistan.

here are some benefits.

terrorism will most probably end in our country as it was before the US occupation.

trade with central asian countries will improve.

paksitan can import gas from central asia through pipeline if there would be peace.

paksitan will not need to line up her military along Durand line at the heavy cost.

there might be an end to insurgency in balochistan as being happened due to indian influence.

pakistan's tourism industry will boom

many more indirect benefits pakistan may avail if peace is restored in afghanistan

[waqaskayani]

AFGHANISTAN has turned in to a goose tht lays golden eggnow its not just PAKISTAN bt every country is eyeing on the natural resources of her.since now it is quiet open to everyone in political ring the reason of USA to infilrate afghanistan.But bad luck pakistan becoz the story is named now ALI BABA AND FORTY THEIVES

[Big Bang]

the greatest resource of Afghanistan is her natural suitability to become a geo-political theater and perfect volatile internal environment to make this continue. Unfortunate Afghans has blessed with many fortunate neighbours like Iran, pakistan, old Soviet states and Russia and china. Americans are of the view, inspired by the paradigm of influence states, if any possibility of cooperation emerge between Russia, china and Iran, then the government in Afghanistan will be vital. So they see people in Afghanistan whome they can trust.
Under this complex scenario, which i have made so brief, every country is striving to be part of this geo-political equation perhapes at the expense of Afghan future.
Now comes what pakistan gains in the peace scenario.
First make clear.....if peace prevails in Afghanistan....it will take some compromise and promises with it and it needs a long struggle not only to satisfy external forces but also to settle internal disputes. Pakistan will gain benefits only when it streamlined her voice with the government present in Afghanistan( that is the reason pakistan is reluctant to loose all her links in Taliban) whether it is Karazai or any other group.
Pakistan can utilize the China' s development initiatives in Afghanistan for her own purposes.
pakistan can create an environment of harmony and brotherhood with pushtoon belt and it will help us to normalize insurgency in our part.

[ali emraan]

There r certain questions;

1)what if peace prevails in afghanistan but through indian led administration?

2)if southern afghanistan gets stability then how would we be able to manage the full fledged trade through gwadar. Since iran and india have their designs to bring halt to c.asiatic trade through pakistan.
Once the chaos ends in the south, it would create a fertile ecology for iran and india to approach c.asia far easily inorder to dash gwadar and enhance cheh bahr port of iran alongwith bandar abbas.

3)if peace comes through the following alliance:
Dostum+abdullah abdullah+karzai

4)how can pakistan get assurence of security from the current imperial forces in afghanistan?

5)is this practical to imagine that insurgency of afghani militants in para chanar, gilgit and d.i.khan can be reduced whether any kind govt. Comes to power in afghanistan?

6) %age of possibility of departure of 'muhajreen'?

7)according to the chronicle figures, the cultivation of poppy and production of opium alongwith other drugs has increased since the fall of kabul. The socalled liberal peace lovers in afghan political bevy r fond of drug_wealth.
Any non religious element if comes to power on afghan soil would ultimately mushroom the drug_trafficking in pakistan.

________peace should prevail in our neighbourhood. But my point is if it does at the cost of our interests, then ?????

[ali emraan]

i agree wiyh you.

we should work for peace in afghanistan . but not at the cost of our own country.

[Big Bang]

Pushtoon are the major ethnic group in Afghanistan. so any peace initiative without participation of these people is not practical. we have smart card than india and iran in this scenario. the point is how we use them as we have close ties with pushtoon leadership, warlords like karazai.

[Faseeh Muhammad]

Originally Posted by marilatif

pakistan really need peace in afghanistan as india want peace in pakistan for her economic developement. paksitan wil get a lot of benefits if true peace is prevailed in afghanistan.

here are some benefits.

terrorism will most probably end in our country as it was before the US occupation.

trade with central asian countries will improve.

paksitan can import gas from central asia through pipeline if there would be peace.

paksitan will not need to line up her military along Durand line at the heavy cost.

there might be an end to insurgency in balochistan as being happened due to indian influence.

pakistan's tourism industry will boom

many more indirect benefits pakistan may avail if peace is restored in afghanistan

@marilatif,
Dear here my opinion differs a bit from that of yours. As we have all studied Pakistan Affairs, I am doubtful about the claims that if Afghanistan became peaceful it will be a good omen for Pakistan. As far as i know, Afghanistan has never ever favoured Pakistan. Since inception, they ploted to destablize Pakistan by playing the Pukhton Card in NWFP. They are reluctent to recognize the Durend Line.

Borders of Pak-Afghan has been a constant source of drug trafficing & the area under Afghan control is a safe heaven for Terrorists that escape from Pakistan. In such a Case a stablized Afghanistan mean "A more equipted & organized enemy".

Originally Posted by Big Bang

the greatest resource of Afghanistan is her natural suitability to become a geo-political theater and perfect volatile internal environment to make this continue.....Americans are of the view..any possibility of cooperation emerge between Russia, china and Iran, then the government in Afghanistan will be vital. So they see people in Afghanistan whome they can trust.

@Big Bang
What did you mean by geo-political threater? To me its a satrie for they (Afghans) have never thought above the level of mercineries, they are not intrested in building Afghanistan, nor they are interested in creating a democratic govt. The govt. of Mr. karzai can't stand for a day without the help of US & it is certainly not an adventage to be the board of practise.

@ali emraan

1)what if peace prevails in afghanistan but through indian led administration?

Pakistan will loose the so called Strategic depth, Pakistan will have to have forces on both of its western & eastern borders.

2)if southern afghanistan gets stability then how would we be able to manage the full fledged trade through gwadar. Since iran and india have their designs to bring halt to c.asiatic trade through pakistan.
Once the chaos ends in the south, it would create a fertile ecology for iran and india to approach c.asia far easily inorder to dash gwadar and enhance cheh bahr port of iran alongwith bandar abbas.

You have given answer by yourself.

3)if peace comes through the following alliance:
Dostum+abdullah abdullah+karzai

Peace can never come this way(in my humble openion), because if they get setteled US will have to leave Afghanistan & it will mean to leave the booty of Mineral resources that they have got after 10 years of war.

4)how can pakistan get assurence of security from the current imperial forces in afghanistan?

In my opinion, gaurantees made by afghan govt. are not made by afghans themselves. they speak for what US assures them. so any thing that might not come in conflict with US interests can be expected from them.

5)is this practical to imagine that insurgency of afghani militants in para chanar, gilgit and d.i.khan can be reduced whether any kind govt. Comes to power in afghanistan?

The govt. so far in rule have control over such mercenaries, so if in case the coalation govt. if formed in future contains representatives of all groups this might come true. but for me formation of such a govt. is actual issue that appears impossilbe.

6) %age of possibility of departure of 'muhajreen'?

7)according to the chronicle figures, the cultivation of poppy and production of opium alongwith other drugs has increased since the fall of kabul. The so called liberal peace lovers in afghan political bevy r fond of drug_wealth.
Any non religious element if comes to power on afghan soil would ultimately mushroom the drug_trafficking in pakistan. peace should prevail in our neighbourhood. But my point is if it does at the cost of our interests, then ????

It is the same irresponsible attitude afghans have ever shown, Cant they cultivate Zafran or similar products that values equal to opium?? Afghans are not sincere with theirselfs. This is both a blessing and a curse for us.

If Afghanistan gets stablized there are two possibilites:
1. It ends its hostalites with Pakistan and became a friend.
2. It turns into a more organized enemy...so far it has always shown a Pro-Indian Attitude.

[Big Bang]

Originally Posted by Faseeh Muhammad

@Big Bang
What did you mean by geo-political threater? To me its a satrie for they (Afghans) have never thought above the level of mercineries, they are not intrested in building Afghanistan, nor they are interested in creating a democratic govt. The govt. of Mr. karzai can't stand for a day without the help of US & it is certainly not an adventage to be the board of practise.

I think, i and you are producing same facts but in a different styles.
Geo-political theater means a place in which you have possibilities to play politics. As Afghan are not interested in building Afghanistan(Volatile internal environment) so it is easy for world to play their cards. USA is of the view to place people of her own interest in Kabul.

[Sociologist PU]

There is no chance of peace in Afghanistan in near future due to its multi-ethenic population, bakwardness, and geographical position. The only sloution of afghan problem is the division of this country into Northren afghanistan and southren afghanistan.
The south for pashton population with a Taliban type of gov. while north for other ethenic groups with a secular type of gov. Sooner or later it has to happen and this is the only way of peace.
But no super power wants peace in Afghanistan as it will close their arms and amiunation factories.