Like any sensible AND meaningful academic debate, faisalraza, this too has its share of enunciation. Of course no one is forcing you to accept his perspective at gun point. Nor can we give a shut-up call to another member when we dont feel like hearing them I usually appreciate being shut-up only through the power of logic and rationale and when one can prove me wrong using only these premises.
If you're looking for member's views on this or any subject- there can only be so many broad views. Seldom will anyone disagree wrt Balochistan's crisis. It is the nitty-gritties of such posts from where people generally learn, as I have learnt so much. Everyone knows the general views, its the details that matter.

Arrivederci!

@ Riaz Ahmed Alizai
Thanks for your comments. I think you have rightly elaborated the issue and suggested meaningful measures.

@aphrodite
I just wanted to have views from other members.Your views are always welcome.

I made my point with logic, that militeary operation will be counter productive, because its a Political problem. As we saw military operation proved chaotic in case of Bengal.Mr Riaz have rightly said that Balochistan is charecterized in terms of security perspective.We must analyse Balochistan in terms of economic and political perspective.

If we carefuly analise, Target killikg of Punjabis started after the murder of Akbar Bugti, before that there were attacks on either gas pipelines or railway lines.Local militants cant reach hard targets like military personnel easily so they took it other way.

The killing of Akbar Bugti agrevated the problem instead of solving it.That is what we need to understand.Military operation will lead us to a point of no turn.We are already fighting war on terrorism in KPK and we cant afford so many fronts. Its a sever threat to our National security.

We must give economic and political atonomy to provinces because of diverse characteristic of this country.It would increase integrity.We need to accept that there lives more than one nation in this country.And we cant bind all just because of similar religious belives.We as a nation must have concluded and accepted this at the Fall of Dhaka.

We need to accept the right of provinces over their natural resources. And the people of concerned province must benefited from their resource before anyother.Their people must be employed in projects being taken on their soil.Currently there is only one federal secretary from Balochistan, we need to be fair in terms of job opportunities.There has never been a Chief of Army from balochistan.

The removel of cuncurrent list through 18th amendment must be appreciated.18th ammendment also recognises the right of provinces over natural resources.It increased the share of provincs in NFC award.The share of federal has been reduced.The criteria of distribution has changed from jusat population to poverty,backwardness,revenue generation and poulation.The up coming Joint Chief of Staff Committee is from Balochistan who understands Balochistan deeply. All these measures are bound to bring harmony among provinces.PPP deserves appreciation and others too.


I would endores as Mr Riaz said that integrity means will of the people to live together.There are diverse cultures, traditions and languages. we need to be fair in distribution of economic resources and be accomodating to eachother.

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CHILE’S remarkable rescue operation of 33 trapped miners enhanced the image of the country as a responsible state. Pakistan and Chile have many similarities — from copper and gold exploitation to a history of military rule, human rights violations and enforced disappearances.
But over the past few years Chile has moved ahead, undoing the damage caused by a military dictator. Human rights violations, including enforced disappearances and military rule is now a part of that country’s history.

Unfortunately, Pakistan’s political and human rights image remain incredibly bruised. The country comes across as one where state agencies forcibly ‘disappear’ political opponents, prominent leaders are killed, the people’s wealth is exploited, the country’s assets is sold for a song and disregard for human and political rights is rife.

Gen Augusto Pinochet, Chile’s former military ruler, was indicted for human rights violations and charged for a number of crimes before his death in 2006. In 1990, Patricio Aylwin — Chile’s first democratically elected president following the dictatorship — created a commission for truth and national reconciliation, which for the first time officially recognised the existence of missing detainees.

Compensation, pensions and scholarships were given to the families of victims of human rights violations recognised by that institution. And now the Chilean government has achieved another humanitarian landmark by rescuing 33 miners and promising to address the plight of miners in the country.

In contrast Pakistan’s human rights situation is going from bad to worse. Disappearances are common, political assassinations are the order of the day, economic and ethnic discrimination is on the rise and exploitation and looting of natural wealth is routine.

Deep in the remote and rugged highlands and deserts of Balochistan and southwest of Quetta lies Chagai, a vast region whose name became well-known after Pakistan’s nuclear tests in May 1998.

Beneath the rugged mountains and golden sand, Chagai holds remarkable wealth: there are copper, gold, iron, marble, high-quality granite and precious and semi- precious stones. But as in the other Baloch territories of Dera Bugti, Gwadar and other parts of the province, the population in Chagai suffers from discrimination and neglect and has yet to reap the fruits of this mineral wealth.

The strategic exploitation of Chagai started in the 1980s when the Pakistani establishment started digging costly tunnels in the Rasko hills to carry out nuclear tests. Since the Baloch people do not meet the criteria of being ‘trusted citizens’ in Pakistan, the contractors, suppliers, labourers and technicians all came from other provinces.

The worst exploitation of Chagai’s copper and gold de posits began in March 2002, when military dictator Gen Pervez Musharraf signed an unfair deal concerning the Saindak copper-gold project with China’s Metallurgical Construction Company (MCC). Based on early estimates the project was expected to generate about $65m annually. But a sharp increase in the demand for copper and gold raised the value of the project three-fold.

Unilaterally signed by the centre, the project’s terms are appalling. MCC Resources Development Company Ltd, a subsidiary of the MCC, is running the project in return for 48 per cent of the total revenue. Islamabad will receive 50 per cent of total profits, including the annual rent of $0.5m; however Balochistan will receive only two per cent of the net profit ($0.7m) per year as royalty.

According to the Ministry of Petroleum and Natural Resources, with regard to social and community development only three steps have been taken: a) establishment of a Saindak Model School at the project site (this school is situated in the fortified compound of Saindak and provides education to the Saindak staff, not to locals); b) establishment of a 50-bed hospital and dispensary to provide health services to the staff and c) the lessee is providing potable water to the locals, which is scarce in the area.

Since the start of the project no initiative has been taken for human resource development either in gas-rich Dera Bugti or the copper-gold heaven of Chagai. Not a single technical or vocational training institute was established to develop human resources in the area. Islamabad did not bother to establish a polytechnic or cadet college in the district headquarters or provide special scholarship schemes for the locals. Thus the social, economic, unemployment, health and education scenario of the copper-gold region is very grim.

Today the habitants of the area are left with deep environmental and economic wounds. In Chagai, features resembling the Grand Canyon are a reminder of the ruthless mechanical surgery of the land for copper and gold extraction.

Another group of giant multinational companies is reportedly getting ready to exploit the world’s second largest copper and gold deposits in Balochistan: Reko Diq copper and gold deals are being discussed in Islamabad’s cosy drawing rooms, ignoring the masses and their needs.

Copper, gold, gas, iron, coal, lead, zinc, ports and bases worth billions of dollars have brought countless social, cultural, environmental and developmental problems and pain for the Baloch people, rather than ushering in development. ¦

http://epaper.dawn.com/ArticleText.a...0_2010_007_007

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all my rnds vave viewed towords emabarassing situation of balochistan and the concerned post and they did not lesve any stone unturned .

as for as the writ of state and raised arms are concerned . who got the people to raise their hand ? WHO MADE PEOPLE to chellenge the writ of govt >? it abvious the public raises ThEir hand and cheLlenge the writ of staet when they become the disaPPointed frOMm the PoLicies of state when the gaP takes PLce < when state does Own their own PeoPLe < the army is Protection of their PeopLe and defensive figure for his terrotries < the same army when kiLl torch and lynche his own PeopLe and PLaces his fLag in his terrotry in the revnge of Political sologons the buLLets are fired < when a *) years oLd man Leaves his house for poLiticaL rights and he is assissanted when a Presidant of state raises his hand in the air threatens his peoPLe that we wiLL kill in such a way that you wiLL not come to kno you were kiLled etc in theses circumtances the PeopLe do not chellenge the writ of state shat shouLd they do when the state cLOses all doors .