[QUOTE=white leopard;241980]For making decisions in religious matters our first guidance is Quran and Sunnah.
Second guidance comes from sahaba. And in both of these we found a lot of examples regarding this situation. Prophet Muhammad(PBUH) himself send a sahbi to kill a jew of khabir who used to "Bark" like these people does today.
So if you don't know about these its your lack of knowledge.

We get this country because we want to practice Islam freely if we want to live in liberal state there was no need to get separated. If we don't get separated then 550 millions(In sub-continent) Muslims is not a small figure while there is 800 millions Hindu resides in India.[/QUOTE]
I don't know what the issue is with this leopard, but he has some of the most bigoted thought process i have ever seen.

Nobody doubts that the Prophets (SAW) abuser should be shown no compassion, but can you at least differentiate between a fair trial and an abuse of blasphemy laws? The Quran says nothing about killing blasphemers, and there are too many instances of compassion and mercy in the prophets (SAW) life to neglect them and start killing people at will.

Do you at least have the guts to admit that this Asia Bibi's trial was not fair? Or at least admit that if anybody's trial is not fairly held then he deserves the benefit of doubt? I guess not.

And forget it that Pakistan was made so that you could go to a mosque and sit there and plan which church to burn down and which Christian to butcher. This is all crap fed to us. Pakistan was supposed to be more of a home for any minorities than India would have ever been. Unfortunately, it has never been so.

[QUOTE=Saad Qaisrani;241985]I don't know what the issue is with this leopard, but he has some of the most bigoted thought process i have ever seen.[/QUOTE]

Regarding such issue a Muslim should possessed such bigoted thoughts. And i am proud to have such thoughts.

[QUOTE=Saad Qaisrani;241985]
Nobody doubts that the Prophets (SAW) abuser should be shown no compassion, but can you at least differentiate between a fair trial and an abuse of blasphemy laws? The Quran says nothing about killing blasphemers, and there are too many instances of compassion and mercy in the prophets (SAW) life to neglect them and start killing people at will.[/QUOTE]

Please give me one such example with reference.

[QUOTE=Saad Qaisrani;241985]
Do you at least have the guts to admit that this Asia Bibi's trial was not fair? Or at least admit that if anybody's trial is not fairly held then he deserves the benefit of doubt? I guess not. [/QUOTE]

Asia bibi admits herself in court that she has said such words but in anger. And asked for mercy as she did this non intensionally.

[QUOTE=Saad Qaisrani;241985]
And forget it that Pakistan was made so that you could go to a mosque and sit there and plan which church to burn down and which Christian to butcher. This is all crap fed to us. Pakistan was supposed to be more of a home for any minorities than India would have ever been. Unfortunately, it has never been so.[/QUOTE]

Pakistan was made so that if someone tries to burn down mosque, as Babri Mosque was burnt down by Hindus, we can punish that person or group of people by government or in other words by constitution.

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Please give me one such example with reference.[/QUOTE]

the Holy Prophet (PBUH) when he forgave his worst enemies and offenders like Hinda. Almost everyone knows the story of the old woman who would throw garbage daily on the path that the Holy Prophet (PBUH) took. When she fell ill, the Holy Prophet (PBUH) went to visit her and nursed her back to health. Less known is the story of another old woman who the Holy Prophet (PBUH) helped by carrying wood to her house. Along the way, not knowing the identity of her helper, she began to speak about the “trouble maker” of Makkah. It was only after their journey was at an end that the Holy Prophet (PBUH) told her that he was the same Muhammad (PBUH) she had spent the greater part of the journey abusing. This was the Holy Prophet’s (PBUH) character. This is why he is referred to as Rahmatul-lil-Alameen or the mercy for all worlds.

[U]The lady must have been beheaded by holy prophet(p.b.u.h) if your theory is right.[/U]


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Asia bibi admits herself in court that she has said such words but in anger. And asked for mercy as she did this [SIZE="3"][U]non intensionally[/U][/SIZE].

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have we become too ruthless to forgive?[/B]

Well frnds, plz be careful on writing the issue, its a very serious issue and let it be leave for the concerns.

its not an examination hall where u filling the sheets for obtaining more marks...

Kaya aap mai sai koi :-

'MUFTI', AALIM, Teacher of FIQA, HADITH and SUNNAH. Koi degree hai kisi k pass ???

have any degree??

yeh khailstan ilmi behs hai. Apni suni sunaii deeni, maslki or mazhabi maloomat ko quote karnay sai pehlay yeh zaroor sochain k aap kis mozoo pr likh rahay hain...Thanks

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the Holy Prophet (PBUH) when he forgave his worst enemies and offenders like Hinda. Almost everyone knows the story of the old woman who would throw garbage daily on the path that the Holy Prophet (PBUH) took. When she fell ill, the Holy Prophet (PBUH) went to visit her and nursed her back to health. Less known is the story of another old woman who the Holy Prophet (PBUH) helped by carrying wood to her house. Along the way, not knowing the identity of her helper, she began to speak about the “trouble maker” of Makkah. It was only after their journey was at an end that the Holy Prophet (PBUH) told her that he was the same Muhammad (PBUH) she had spent the greater part of the journey abusing. This was the Holy Prophet’s (PBUH) character. This is why he is referred to as Rahmatul-lil-Alameen or the mercy for all worlds.

[U]The lady must have been beheaded by holy prophet(p.b.u.h) if your theory is right.[/U]
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We will found a lot of cases in which holy prophet forgive his enemies. But give me such example which is similar to the present case(and holy prophet forgive such person) while there is a lot of examples what we should do in such case.

[QUOTE=Invincible;242219][B]
have we become too ruthless to forgive?[/B][/QUOTE]

After killing someone, the killer says that he has done that non intensionally. Should we give him any punishment or not.
And who knows she is right about her intention. She might be doing this to get an escape from execution.

@Invincible

In first video it is told that from 1927 to 1986 only 7 cases were came into notice. Don't forget that Natho Ram who was killed by Abdul Qauym Saheed was also treated under that law and he finally get escape.

[COLOR=Red]@ Ahmed Cool[/COLOR]

Few days ago you complained about a member who gave you red with a couple of foul words. What you want me to do with him?

Without going into the controversy of whether blasphemy is punishable or not, it is beyond debate that the Blasphemy Laws (Section 295 of CrPC) in the present form are not just and full of lacuna. What is being proposed is to improve these laws so that they cannot be misused for personal objectives:

- The British (Section 295-A) introduced these laws to maintain communal harmony in a multi-religious society and gave importance to "malicious intention". The concept of 'intention' while committing blasphemy is missing by Pakistan's introduced (295-B and C) laws. Therefore 'intent' should be established before awarding any punishment to a blasphemer rather than simply charging anyone committing the same out of ignorance. While we Muslims can be very particular about respect to Prophet Muhammad or Holy Quran, the same level understanding should not be expected from non-Muslims. Unless some non-Muslim does so deliberately to inflame a Muslim, a benefit of doubt be given to him/her.

- While we are quick to punish anyone who (nauzbillah) disrespects Prophet Muhammad and Qur'an with the harshest possible sentence, by implication we concede that same level of respect is not due for prophets and books of other religions. Interestingly Muslims themselves should be treating ALL prophets with equal respect.

- It is also being proposed that one who accuses anyone of blasphemy should have convincing solid proofs to charge the accused. In case he is not able to prove the crime, a reverse case should be launched against the accuser. This shall deter him from making false accusations.

- In Pakistan mis-carriages of justice are fairly routine phenomenon. Precisely for these reasons, the current regime has put a halt on capital punishment and converted them into life imprisonments. Should we be awarding death to people on spurious claims where buying witnesses and intimidating police and prosecution services is not difficult. Thus it is being proposed to convert that punishment from death to imprisonment.

- It is also being proposed that such cases should be run in High courts, which are relatively free from mob pressure and miscarriages of justice are less.

[QUOTE=Last Island;242408][COLOR=Red]@ Ahmed Cool[/COLOR]

Few days ago you complained about a member who gave you red with a couple of foul words. What you want me to do with him?[/QUOTE]

I would just like to know who it was that felt so angry that he had to stoop to that level (that also for the sake of his God). Generally speaking, people who directly hurl abuses at other users on online forums are given infraction points.

But I definitely don't want him hanged lol...