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PM Gillani has seriously offended the top military brass and accused ISI chief and Army chief's statemenrs to SC unconstitutional.ISPR has issued a press release denouncing the allegations by chief exucutive..well it is obvious that the gulf b/w both institutions is increasing immensely and looks like relationship has reached to the point of no return.It looks like civilian govt can collapse any time as it has burdened it self with unlimited load..

ISPR has warned of '' serious remifications ''

what does it mean ? Will army wait and bear more undeserved humiliation or will do SOME THING REALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL (I hope u know what I mean )?....Plz share your comments.
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PM Gillani has seriously offended the top military brass and accused ISI chief and Army chief's statemenrs to SC unconstitutional.ISPR has issued a press release denouncing the allegations by chief exucutive..well it is obvious that the gulf b/w both institutions is increasing immensely and looks like relationship has reached to the point of no return.It looks like civilian govt can collapse any time as it has burdened it self with unlimited load..

ISPR has warned of '' serious remifications ''

what does it mean ? Will army wait and bear more undeserved humiliation or will do SOME THING REALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL (I hope u know what I mean )?....Plz share your comments.
army would have taken this unconstitutional step a long ago, had this proactive judiciary be not there. simply army knows it very well that its unconstitutional steps are no longer going to be validated by the superior courts. otherwise, it deosnt fear of civilian govt.

what the PM has done, is tremendous. it is his power to appoint or remove any secretary of any ministry let alone defense ministry. so what wrong has he done by sacking the defense secretary. if Chief of the army staff cant swallow this step, let him do what ever he wants, including activating brigade 111.
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army would have taken this unconstitutional step a long ago, had this proactive judiciary be not there. simply army knows it very well that its unconstitutional steps are no longer going to be validated by the superior courts. otherwise, it deosnt fear of civilian govt.

what the PM has done, is tremendous. it is his power to appoint or remove any secretary of any ministry let alone defense ministry. so what wrong has he done by sacking the defense secretary. if Chief of the army staff cant swallow this step, let him do what ever he wants, including activating brigade 111.
The fired secretary is a retired Lt.Gen and an army loyalist, but was seen as a bridge b/w civilian and military leadership..he is now replaced with a bureaucrat close to PM Gillani…..he was fired coz of his role in submitting Kayani and Pasha’s statements to SC…..PM Gillani fired him for causing misunderstanding b/w both institutions….well PM Gillani always finds novel ways to back track from his statements..This time he made defence secretary a scape goat….his ouster by PM Gillani at this crucial time is an ominous sign coz look at the timing…its time to narrow down the bridges but our govt is just widening the gulf..its just worsening the ties…or may be it really wants a head on collision to turn herself into a political martyr or some thing….for me its moves look deliberate..
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PM Gillani has seriously offended the top military brass and accused ISI chief and Army chief's statemenrs to SC unconstitutional.ISPR has issued a press release denouncing the allegations by chief exucutive..well it is obvious that the gulf b/w both institutions is increasing immensely and looks like relationship has reached to the point of no return.It looks like civilian govt can collapse any time as it has burdened it self with unlimited load..
ISPR has warned of '' serious remifications ''
what does it mean ? Will army wait and bear more undeserved humiliation or will do SOME THING REALLY UNCONSTITUTIONAL (I hope u know what I mean )?....Plz share your comments.
Army has been going with the policy of wait and see, and had been swallowing lot of allegations. The rift is being intensified by the current political regime, which are trying to get an early exit to become democratic martyred because they have put the country in a position of cow, which can neither be milked nor its meat would be useful in case of its slaughter...

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army would have taken this unconstitutional step a long ago, had this proactive judiciary be not there. simply army knows it very well that its unconstitutional steps are no longer going to be validated by the superior courts. otherwise, it deosnt fear of civilian govt.

what the PM has done, is tremendous. it is his power to appoint or remove any secretary of any ministry let alone defense ministry. so what wrong has he done by sacking the defense secretary. if Chief of the army staff cant swallow this step, let him do what ever he wants, including activating brigade 111.
MLCG officer might have extended his point of view . Dear just analyze the current issues with cool mind and anybody can feel that what is being played on by the democratic government. Today the issue was not only of removal of Secretary Defence, but of the statement given by the Chief Executive that the reply on Memo by COAS and DG ISI are illegal! .... The army is not just fearful of Supreme Court, there is a strong media, political parties of the country do not want any military intervention and army itself is already engaged in a number of operational issues that it cannot go with any venture... The government wants to have an exit ....

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The fired secretary is a retired Lt.Gen and an army loyalist, but was seen as a bridge b/w civilian and military leadership..he is now replaced with a bureaucrat close to PM Gillani…..he was fired coz of his role in submitting Kayani and Pasha’s statements to SC…..PM Gillani fired him for causing misunderstanding b/w both institutions….well PM Gillani always finds novel ways to back track from his statements..This time he made defence secretary a scape goat….his ouster by PM Gillani at this crucial time is an ominous sign coz look at the timing…its time to narrow down the bridges but our govt is just widening the gulf..its just worsening the ties…or may be it really wants a head on collision to turn herself into a political martyr or some thing….for me its moves look deliberate..
Defence Secretary is just removed, he has not been replaced yet. Nargis Sethi is just given additional charge of Ministry of Defence... they want to be political martyr....
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The army is not just fearful of Supreme Court, there is a strong media, political parties of the country do not want any military intervention and army itself is already engaged in a number of operational issues that it cannot go with any venture... The government wants to have an exit ....
Army will not take over...well its quite obvious now..this time Apex court will give this govt a constitutional death which it badly wants BTW...decision of apex court will pave the way for snap polls and this is what PPP & PML.N wants...n Imran khan needs a serious awakening..its time to speed up or PML.N is looking in a move to hijack the present situation in its favour...but what i like this time is that Supreme Court is emerging as the ultimate dispute resolutioner...its quite unlike the past trends...but its really healthy..at least we have somethin other than the army to be proud of now..we r proud of SC.
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