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Much awaited recommendations of a bipartisan parliamentary committee on Pakistan’s national tasked to compile recommendations for new terms of engagement with US in the aftermath of US raid on Pakistani posts that killed 24 soldiers , have been tabled in the joint session of the parliament.
Head of the Parliamentary Committee on the National Security and Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) stalwart Senator Raza Rabbani tabled the report consist of 40 recommendations in the session chaired by Senate Chairman Nayyar Hussain Bukhrai on Tuesday.
The PNSC report call for end to drone attacks as it proved counterproductive, fanning anti-American sentiments and inflicting colossal financial losses to Pakistan.
It also said that there would no US boot on ground in Pakistan and any operation on its territory would not be tolerated without prior consent of the parliament.
The report said that taxes be levied on Nato supplies, adding that the supplies routes should not be opened before an agreement is reached in this regard.
It also calls for US to render unconditional apology for cross-border attack on Pakistani posts that killed 24 soldiers.
The PNSC report said that any covert or overt operation on Pakistani soil would need parliament’s approval.
It said that the US-India civil nuclear deal affected regional balance of power and called for US to help Pakistan in the same manner so that it could get rid of energy crises.
Improving relations with Russia.
Take steps to resolve the Kashmir issue in accordance with the UN resolutions.
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Much awaited recommendations of a bipartisan parliamentary committee on Pakistan’s national tasked to compile recommendations for new terms of engagement with US in the aftermath of US raid on Pakistani posts that killed 24 soldiers , have been tabled in the joint session of the parliament.
Head of the Parliamentary Committee on the National Security and Pakistan People’s Party (PPP) stalwart Senator Raza Rabbani tabled the report consist of 40 recommendations in the session chaired by Senate Chairman Nayyar Hussain Bukhrai on Tuesday.
The PNSC report call for end to drone attacks as it proved counterproductive, fanning anti-American sentiments and inflicting colossal financial losses to Pakistan.
It also said that there would no US boot on ground in Pakistan and any operation on its territory would not be tolerated without prior consent of the parliament.
The report said that taxes be levied on Nato supplies, adding that the supplies routes should not be opened before an agreement is reached in this regard.
It also calls for US to render unconditional apology for cross-border attack on Pakistani posts that killed 24 soldiers.
The PNSC report said that any covert or overt operation on Pakistani soil would need parliament’s approval.
It said that the US-India civil nuclear deal affected regional balance of power and called for US to help Pakistan in the same manner so that it could get rid of energy crises.
Improving relations with Russia.
Take steps to resolve the Kashmir issue in accordance with the UN resolutions.
The dialogue between a lion and deer cant be considered a 'Dialogue'. I dont expect much from this spineless Parliament.
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The dialogue between a lion and deer cant be considered a 'Dialogue'. I dont expect much from this spineless Parliament.
If this spineless parliament can restore the constitution, if this spineless parliament can make the military answerable, if this spineless parliament can for the first time draft reccomendations on foreign policy, then I will prefer this spineless parliament over other so-called spine-full institutions.
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Constitution is a worthless piece of paper if not implemented in letter in spirit. (A couple of amendments cant make it use of)

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if this spineless parliament can make the military answerable
Really? They have been trying unsuccessfully through Memos' etc but they wont be able to attain anything unless they deliver on governance ground.

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if this spineless parliament can for the first time draft reccomendations on foreign policy, then I will prefer this spineless parliament over other so-called spine-full institutions.
Had things started getting better by just making a 'Draft', We would have been living in a far better place. "Honesty of Purpose is a term unknown to them."

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Constitution is a worthless piece of paper if not implemented in letter in spirit. (A couple of amendments cant make it use of)

"""""If constitution is worthless piece of paper then nothing in this country has any worth. """""""

Really? They have been trying unsuccessfully through Memos' etc but they wont be able to attain anything unless they deliver on governance ground.

"""""""MEMO is a myth, can u describe its reality?"""""""""

Had things started getting better by just making a 'Draft', We would have been living in a far better place. "Honesty of Purpose is a term unknown to them."

""""""""life of nations is altered in due course of time... betterment is a process and we are passing through it. "Nations are created in centuries not years", as our Quaid said, we are passing through the phase of becoming a nation as America did it in 150 years and English did it in 200 years, the only thing worth consideration is that "If you learn from past as an evolving nation or not?" """"""""""
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"""""If constitution is worthless piece of paper then nothing in this country has any worth. """""""
Please pay heed to the word "Implemented".




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MEMO is a myth, can u describe its reality?"""""""""
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First of all ' Nation and Parliament' are not synonyms. I don't mind even if it takes 500 years but it must be moving in right course of action; unfortunately the ground reality is quite contrary. The scale of malpractice in recent Senate election is anecdotal evidence of it which reminds us that we are heading towards an insignificant place.

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Let the SC decide.




This is proving to be a flop drama. Nothing would come out of the nothing.


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First of all ' Nation and Parliament' are not synonyms. I don't mind even if it takes 500 years but it must be moving in right course of action; unfortunately the ground reality is quite contrary. The scale of malpractice in recent Senate election is anecdotal evidence of it which reminds us that we are heading towards an insignificant place.

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No doubt it is still in evolutionary process.
senate elections in Punjab were perfectly good.
There was election and people voted according to their will and that was the reason that mohsin lagari triumphed.
In balochistan also there was election and people voted on their discretions.
and such malpractices occur.
This parliament 's power given Election commission is now much free and independent. This independent proved itself in the case of Wahida shah. Now there would be fair interim set up , thanks to 20th commandment by this parliament. And election commission and its members have been given shelter of parliament



This parliament is not that much toothless either. It was the power derived from this parliament that in the wake of Slala attack , the govt was able to vacate shamsi air base , a gift handed over by a dictator. It was the power of parliament that Nato supplies were interrupted and it was the power of parliament that operation in north waziristan has not been let started.
It is not that much toothless. It is this excuse that parliament would decide which our govt and security apparatus has put forward before the mighty of mightiest and took these initiatives . At least now parliament cant be blamed for inefficiency . During these years it has shown its worth and maturity. And this would history prove as one of the most brighter chapter in our history.
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This is proving to be a flop drama. Nothing would come out of the nothing.




No doubt it is still in evolutionary process.
senate elections in Punjab were perfectly good.
There was election and people voted according to their will and that was the reason that mohsin lagari triumphed.
In balochistan also there was election and people voted on their discretions.
and such malpractices occur.
This parliament 's power given Election commission is now much free and independent. This independent proved itself in the case of Wahida shah. Now there would be fair interim set up , thanks to 20th commandment by this parliament. And election commission and its members have been given shelter of parliament



This parliament is not that much toothless either. It was the power derived from this parliament that in the wake of Slala attack , the govt was able to vacate shamsi air base , a gift handed over by a dictator. It was the power of parliament that Nato supplies were interrupted and it was the power of parliament that operation in north waziristan has not been let started.
It is not that much toothless. It is this excuse that parliament would decide which our govt and security apparatus has put forward before the mighty of mightiest and took these initiatives . At least now parliament cant be blamed for inefficiency . During these years it has shown its worth and maturity. And this would history prove as one of the most brighter chapter in our history.
If parliament is really not that much toothless then whats about the drone attacks???

Parliament is really efficient in order to safeguard the interests of his corrupt leader, the most simple logical question an ordinary pakistani can have in his mind about the swiss cases is "whats wrong with the letter writing?" It is this parliament which is fully ready to pass resolution to protect its leaders against the justice.
In my point of view it is the darkest period of our national history when the powers vested by pakistanis into parliament are used to guard the corruption.

whatever good the parliament has done must be appreciated but it is also very much evident that whenever it comes to the choice between the personal and the national interest, the present leaders had proved themselves to be self centered.
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Pity the person who appreciates a parliament which is senseless to the the ridicule being made to judiciary!
At first you have to decide which sort of system you want for your country?
if you want parliamentary democracy then parliament is supreme my brother.
17 judges who are not elected by people of Pakistan can not be above the representative parliament of Pakistani people.
and by the way what ridicule is being made to judiciary????
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