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PPP seems to have decided to play openly against judiciary by ridiculing it in public so that questions may be posed to judiciary and honourable judges on their credibility and public opinion may be customized in favour of PPP by enraging public anger against judiciary. The most unfortunate thing along with several others is that all this drama is being staged just to provide shelter to corruption of $ 50 million.
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This Faisal Raza Abdi thing is totally a drama and he is planted to speak against the judiciary. Everyone in PPP wants to be the political martyr . its like "har ghar say gilani, Raja and Abdi niklain gay, tum kin kin ko maro gay ".
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This Faisal Raza Abdi thing is totally a drama and he is planted to speak against the judiciary. Everyone in PPP wants to be the political martyr . its like "har ghar say gilani, Raja and Abdi niklain gay, tum kin kin ko maro gay ".
Whether the conference was planted or not. The way of asking questions from the CJ is wrong but there is logic in the info given by the PPP stalwart senator. There is truth and the SC, in my opinion and observation, has been biased.

The ongoing tug of war will, eventually, bring a positive change in determining the demarcations of the institutions. Conflicts and arguments will lead towards a better conclusion, I think.
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ppp has done a good job from removing faisal raza abidi from central executive committee and has barred him from entering presidency. Also have demanded from the so called fireband senator to quit from presidentship of karachi.
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PPP seems to have decided to play openly against judiciary by ridiculing it in public so that questions may be posed to judiciary and honourable judges on their credibility and public opinion may be customized in favour of PPP by enraging public anger against judiciary. The most unfortunate thing along with several others is that all this drama is being staged just to provide shelter to corruption of $ 50 million.
Dear, No court has has decided about the fate of $ 30 or 50 million. It is still to be proved. As earlier stated the SC has been biased and there is truth in the info presented by the senator. The way of presenting opinion was against the rules.

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ppp has done a good job from removing faisal raza abidi from central executive committee and has barred him from entering presidency. Also have demanded from the so called fireband senator to quit from presidentship of karachi.
Faisal was removed from KHI presidentship two months ago.

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This Faisal Raza Abdi thing is totally a drama and he is planted to speak against the judiciary. Everyone in PPP wants to be the political martyr . its like "har ghar say gilani, Raja and Abdi niklain gay, tum kin kin ko maro gay ".
Almost every conference is planted. Nothing wrong in it. It is way of responding allegations and presenting one's stance and position. The use of language shall be under the gamut of ethics and moral and presentation of data with reliable sources. For instance, Recently Khawaja Asif did press conference and alleged IK. The conference was planted too.
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Dear, No court has has decided about the fate of $ 30 or 50 million. It is still to be proved. As earlier stated the SC has been biased and there is truth in the info presented by the senator. The way of presenting opinion was against the rules.
Brother as far as the biased behaviour of SC is concerned I think it is not far from reality as many cases against Sharifs are not being processed. But in the embezzlement of $60 million, both zardari and benazir had been convicted but their penalties were suspended on appeals.
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Almost every conference is planted. Nothing wrong in it. It is way of responding allegations and presenting one's stance and position. The use of language shall be under the gamut of ethics and moral and presentation of data with reliable sources. For instance, Recently Khawaja Asif did press conference and alleged IK. The conference was planted too.
By planted I mean that the PPP is actually using Abdi to speak against CJ. Allegations are right or wrong this is another debate. on the one hand PPP is supporting him and on the other hand they are playing the drama of suspending him from the core committee etc.
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Both parties must share the burden of blame. PPP must implement courts verdict irrespective of its reservations.One thing must be kept in mind that judges sin SC are not angels and being humans are expected to commit mistakes either wittingly or unwittingly. Their courts decisions must be respected not by the virtue of their rightness but for the authority lent to court from the constitution. Respect of this authority is mandatory for survival of system. A fromer Amercian Chief Justice had said "

"We(the Courts) are right because we are ultimate but we are not ultimate because we are right"

What will happen if other authorities follow the suit and start disobeying the court orders? Naturally if it happens so the entire structure of state is bound to fall.

However the court has not also applied the restraint it should have done.It now seems that court has some personal interest in this case where as millions of people are suffering in search of justice. Court has closed its eyes towards cases of opponents of PPP. These issues lend some weight to the arguments of PPP's supporters. Even Jurists of international standings have criticized the conduct of our higher judiciary.

I think both the parties must change their stance for the interest of System.
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Is judiciary deliberately ridiculing ppp?
yes i think and facts proving that judiciary ridiculing the ppp. if not then why cj is silent on these quires of imran khan. actually faisal raza abidi was right that Iftikhar chudry is biased with ppp.. look these facts against SHREEF BRADRAN

1. Raymond Baker, an international renowned author, wrote in his book that Nawaz Sharif did corruption worth $417 million. The book says that Nawaz Sharif took a commission of $160 million from Daewoo for the motorway which was recently made. If Baker had made a false allegation, then why did you not initiate a case against him?

2. You bought four apartments in Mayfair worth more than Rs1 billion. Now their value has gone up to Rs 4.5 billion. Where did you get the money from?

3. In 1994, you stated your income as Rs150, 000 and you gave a tax of Rs14, 000. If this is your income, then how did you buy a property in Mayfair?

4. You took a loan from Al Taufiq Bank worth $30 million and then you defaulted it. They took you to court and attached your property. From where did you get the money to pay back those $30 million?

5. Ishaq Dar gave an affidavit saying that Nawaz Sharif did money laundering by opening a fictitious account by the name of Qazi family in London. The BBC made a film on that too.

6. You took a loan worth Rs6 billion from Pakistani banks and you had them defaulted. Did you return back the loan?

7. You have a 1,700 acre land in Raiwind. Where did you get the money from to buy that land?

8. Where did the people’s tax money go? How much of the tax money was put into Raiwind?

9. Your whole family has properties in London. You want to do government in Pakistan but your children’s properties are lying abroad. You should own it like I owned it right now.

10. You planted a steel mill in Jeddah of $150 million. Your tax return does not show that you have enough income to plant a mill.

11. You froze your foreign accounts in 1998, but tell us, how much money did you transfer abroad the night before?

cj is silent because of his master is involved in these cases.... best of luck iftikhar chudry
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