Basant
 

The story of basant is taught in every school of india and now is celebrated by muslims of pakistan.almost two hundred years ago, Haqaeeqat Rai a hindu student,studying in lahore,abused the prophet (saw).

According to hindus, it started when a muslim student abused Lord Rama,in reaction Hindu student abused the holy prophet(saw). the qazi of the mughal empire sentenced him to death.the king of the time Aurangzeb,was appealed to the kings judjement, that if Haqeeqat Rai embraced islam,he will be set free.Haqeeqat Rai preffered dying a hindu,rather than live as a muslim. this "Grand Sacrifice" of Haqeeqat was labelled as Basant and is celebrated throughout india by flying kites.

This kaifr was hanged near "Ghora Shah" lahore,in an open ground behind Sikh National College,now part of engineering university,lahore.a great Basant temple was raised at the site of the hanging that was there till 1950. hindus from all over india gathered here and celebrated basant.

The hindus have left our motherland, but the pakistani muslims have taken charge of discharging islam by celebrating basant.

Is there a more shameful act than what muslims of pakiastan act proving today?

plzzzz in the name of Allah,let us not anger Him,and avoid His curse.let us not wait for next year and from now on boycott all un-islamic acts.:nono


wat do u people think about it.should the govt. ban this act or allow it.as it becomes a cause of god's anger and a loss of many innocent lives???

plz share ur valueable comments.
regards.

yeh offcourse you are right we should not celebrate these un islamic shameful acts . May God give a stright path to all muslims to go on right path

[QUOTE=xavier]yeh offcourse you are right we should not celebrate these un islamic shameful acts . May God give a stright path to all muslims to go on right path[/QUOTE]

[B]Ameen.....[/B]

An event that curse the human life is not an event but a disaster
i think it should not be celebrated,the government ban it or not people should not involve themself in this activity as its causing a big loss of lives

@ xaiver, khayal ,sonia rajpal
thanks for replying and sharing ur views.
yes u all are very true, we should not celebrate such events.by celebrating these events parents are loosing precious lives of their children, the young children run blindly on busy roads to catch the kites, and many of them face deadly accidents. some children fall down from the roofs tops.apart from this the dorr which is made of sharp materials is also becomming a cause of life loss.dozens of incidents hav happened in lahore where people travelling on bikes loose their children when the dorr cuts of their necks.but still no steps taken. the highcourt bans it for some day, but agains allows this unislamic act.
last but not the least people spend a lot of their money and time on this useless and unislamic event.
i wish the govt. may ban this event permanently, coz unless it is strictly banned & the law breakers are heavily punnished log baaz nahin aien gain.

Your are extremely right Prieti. When an act is unislamic Muslims should avoid that act. If we think simply as humans not as Muslims then also this act is not applicable because this act is htreatning for life of humans especially for the life of innocent children.So all people especially Muslims should avoid this painful act.Am I right?

Yeah i agree that Basant should not be celebrated.

Rubbish
 

[FONT="Courier New"][SIZE="4"]GUYS....

I don't think these kind of stories are true & if they are then provide us the source of getting them. I think it is like fake stories that are being spread all around.

The [B]BASANT[/B] is only a festival. In our life we have only few moments to celebrate and I think we should not miss them by believing these kind of unproven sayings.

Ya there is one thing in which i agree is that we should make this festival an enjoy for all. That we should not fly kites by "Dati Tar" etc. that may hurt the people moving around.

It is a festival by which our government earns a lot of money and our business in these days go on its' full swing. We should make some rules and regulations for this. [B]Not BAN it[/B]. There are hundreds of families engaged in this business.

BE COOL MINDED AND THINK...[/SIZE][/FONT]

@ashanghalib

I love kite flying, thats not a big deal. If u wannna enjoy kite flying, u can enjoy it but don't call it basant because this sort of stories can be untrue but all and sundry think so that we are celebrating it for Hindus.

Regards,

the problem with us pakistanis is that in trying to be MUSLIMS, we have started acting like ARABS...........we have lost our heritage and our culture and have always tried to adopt the ways of the ARABS..........we have our own culture and BASANT is the festival of the SUB-CONTINENT...........i think there is no harm in promoting the culture of the sub-continent, provided that we do it in a civilised manner............BASANT should be celebrated as a festival................look at the IRANIANS, they are muslims but they are also proud of their PERSIAN heritage................BASANT is not a hindu festival.............and it should not be considered as one too.............BASANT should be celebrated but with the necessary precautions............

[QUOTE=ahsanghalib][FONT="Courier New"][SIZE="4"]GUYS....

I don't think these kind of stories are true & if they are then provide us the source of getting them. I think it is like fake stories that are being spread all around.

The [B]BASANT[/B] is only a festival. In our life we have only few moments to celebrate and I think we should not miss them by believing these kind of unproven sayings.

Ya there is one thing in which i agree is that we should make this festival an enjoy for all. That we should not fly kites by "Dati Tar" etc. that may hurt the people moving around.

It is a festival by which our government earns a lot of money and our business in these days go on its' full swing. We should make some rules and regulations for this. [B]Not BAN it[/B]. There are hundreds of families engaged in this business.

BE COOL MINDED AND THINK...[/SIZE][/FONT][/QUOTE]


@ashanghalib

well mr.ahsanghalib. i think that we hav many other festivals to celebrate.gog almighty has bestowed upon us 3 eids. eid-ul-fir


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@ashanghalib

(conti)..............................eid-ul-azha and eid miladunnabi.there are also many other national events which we can celebrate like 23 march, 14 aug 6 sept.. i am not against kite flying, but to celebrate it as a collective event as a specific time is not propriate.individual kite flying is a gud sport and a source of entertainment,but to celebrate it at the arrival of spring truely reflects the folllowing of hindu rituals....hope u will understand..

regards

now u asked for the source.
here it is

[url]http://www.albalagh.net/food_for_thought/basant.shtml[/url]

[COLOR="Red"]The Kites of Blasphemy[/COLOR]
By Syed Mohammad Anas

Basant is celebrated in Pakistan with great fervor and the interest in celebrating it seems to be increasing every year. The celebrations have reached the point that invitation cards are printed out. It is celebrated on different days in the country so that "the spirit of Basant" is kept alive nationwide and people can participate in it on a national scale. The night of Basant is reminiscent of 'Qiyam-ul-Layl', in the sense that people do not sleep on this night. But the 'ibadah' is of a different kind. Reputed hotels have their rooftops booked for the whole night. The whole night is spent in flying kites, merry-making, with Indian music blaring on loudspeakers in the background.

Like many of our rituals, its origins remain largely unknown to the majority of people. But there is no denyng that this is a dangerous activity. It causes severe damage to life and property. Many lives are lost and the country suffers damages going into hundreds of thousands of rupees every year in accidents related to it. A few years ago three grid stations caught fire on this occasion because of short circuits caused by metal wires used in kite flying. Yet, the government promotes the celebration of Basant with an almost religious intensity.

If people ever do stop to think about how Basant originated, they assume it was a Hindu festival to mark the change of seasons. That Muslims should be participating in a pagan celebration would be bad enough. But the reality is starker than that. Are you ready for this? Here is an account of its origin from Dr. B.S. Nijjar's book, "Punjab Under the Later Mughals." According to him, when Zakariya Khan (1707-1759) was the governor of Punjab, a Hindu of Sialkot, by the name of Hakeekat Rai Bakhmal Puri spoke words of disrespect for the Prophet Muhammad and his daughter Fatima, Radi-Allahu anha. He was arrested and sent to Lahore to await trial. The court, acting according to the law, gave him capital punishment. The non-Muslim population was stirred to request Zakariya Khan to lift the death sentence given to Hakeekat Rai but he did not accede to their request. Eventually the death penalty was carried out and the entire non-Muslim population went into mourning.

As a tribute to the memory of this blasphemer, a prosperous Hindu, Kalu Ram initiated the Basant 'mela' in (Marrhi) Kot Khwaja Saeed (Khoje Shahi) in Lahore. (This place is now known as Baway di marrhi.) It is the last stop on the route of Wagon no. 60 from Bhati Gate. Dr. B.S. Nijjar states on Page no. 279 of his book that the Basant 'mela' is celebrated in memory of Hakeekat Rai.

The ignorant crowds and their equally ignorant vocal advocates may ask "Hey, what's wrong in a little fun?" But should they continue to fly the kites of blasphemy?

(References taken from Salim Rauf's "Waah re Musalmaan.")


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@ amjad gujjar


i totally agree with u brother.Muslims should avoid this painful act.u r 100% right!!

Basant and Kite-Flying; completely Islamic,ethical and legal
 

I've heard a lot of stories like this. By quoting a narration from history one cannot prove the illegality of this festival.Here is another one:

In the subcontinent legend of the 12th century saint Nizamuddin Aulia of Delhi has it, that he had been grieving the death of his nephew Taquiddin Nooh. His close friend and disciple Amir Khusro [both are buried within the shrine of Nizamudin in Delhi] decided to cheer him up.
Khusro met some village women on the road dressed up in yellow colors of the mustard that was in bloom at the time of spring. On finding that they were celebrating spring and offering flowers to their gods, Khusro also dressed himself in yellow and went with these women to Nizamuddin. Nizamuddin on recognizing Khusro started to smile. That started the rest of the disciples to sing Persian verses and offer flowers on the grave of Nooh.
The Basant festival is still celebrated in Nizamuddin shrine by a ritual collection of mustard flowers from a village in Harayana followed by offering the flowers to the shrines in Mehrauli, and Naseeruddin Chirag-e- Delhi.

Secondly, one should not mix "Basant" with "Kite-Flying". Basant might be the festival but Kite-flying is a sports.origin of kite-blying is from China and was always celebrated as a sports.History of kite-flying is more old than the fabricated event of blasphemy.If for a moment we suppose that, this event did happen, even then it is going to be very dangerous for us, coz Hindus can make all of our Halal activities Haram by connecting it to such fabricated events. So I think u need to rethink this matter.

Basant is celebrated at the advent of spring in punjab and other states of India just to celebrate this season.And even if this is a hindu festival, how come one can say that muslims are not allowed to take part in the festivals of other religions. All of our Marriage rituals are studded with the hindu rituals, what do you think about that. Isn't the marriage more important event than the arrival of Spring.

If we should think like banning all non-muslim activities then start thinking about banning cricket coz it is not an islamic activity, waste of time,and the whole generation is after it. And also ban the other sports which have no islamic roots.Ban celebrating the birthdays and also ban celebrating the weekends and weekly holidays.

There is not even a single Fatwa declaring Basant as an Unislamic festival. Even the hardline mullah like Mufti Munib-ur-Rahman refused to call it uninslamic. Rather said that it is not unislamic.

As far as the security is concerned, it is absolutely right that there should be strict rules and regulations to conduct this festival.

Therefore I'm totally against the ban of Basant as kite-flying.

[B]God knows the truth but As i know The Festival of basant triggered so many catastrophes .MAny ppl face the serious injuries because of distinguished reason of kitting.I have heard last year a child has been expired because his neck cutted out through thread and So many childs fall down from buildings while kitting.At any case , This festival indicates toward loses rather than any gain.As far as i think we should not celebrate those event whose harmful for mankind. [/B]

People of pakistan need new ways to entertain them selves. Kite flying has it's origin from china. Even in normal days if you engage your self in kite flying this doesn't mean you are offending Islam or any of it's practise. Involving our practises to a hindu custom has no grounds to debate. We light firecrackers in Shab-E-Barat. The origin is from China but it's the hindu culture that brought firecrakers to a happy event , I agree to the fact that many lives are lost but if we control the threads used there would never be a single death. It's up to the athority to handle the situation by punishing the culprits rather then issueing a ban on kite flying .

woa,
dear we have to take this decision of "celebration of basant" by a father whose child's neck cut&fall in his lap...

@wound healer,
[I]the problem with us pakistanis is that in trying to be MUSLIMS, we have started acting like ARABS...........we have lost our heritage and our culture and have always tried to adopt the ways of the ARABS..........we have our own culture and BASANT is the festival of the SUB-CONTINENT...........i think there is no harm in promoting the culture of the sub-continent, provided that we do it in a civilised manner............BASANT should be celebrated as a festival................look at the IRANIANS, they are muslims but they are also proud of their PERSIAN heritage................BASANT is not a hindu festival.............and it should not be considered as one too.............BASANT should be celebrated but with the necessary precautions............
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Basant is a punjabi culture and not pakistani culture, this is promoted by govt of punjab to promote tourism for his province,,,,,,,,,, i am not against celebrating basant,,,,, but we should not call it pakistani culture,,,,it is as regional as bangra,,,,,,,,,,and hence cannot be called our culture,,,,,,,,,,, pesonally speaking, it is a hindu culture

Basant is not not our festivle but also it is source of entertainment to our people, at it has verious evils but it has advantegaes also, so we shoud not discurage busant but it evels, by adopting certain measures we can overcome and control those evels. first i wolud strongly prefer that here should be education and proper knowledge of those evels to lahories people. specially use of Dhati tar.............

Thanxx to all who have supported kit-flying, and...:thinking . also to those who are against it... coz, at last they are the ones who have started this discussion.
So keep it up; supporters of kite-flying, we've got some support and acknowledgement:)

[QUOTE=bitlovable] also to those who are against it... coz, at last they are the ones who have started this discussion.

ur most welcome dear!!!


we've got some support and acknowledgement:)[/QUOTE]


true!! at least u hav got [B]"some" [/B]support.


anywayx thanks for sharing ur views
regards

[QUOTE]Basant is a punjabi culture and not pakistani culture, this is promoted by govt of punjab to promote tourism for his province,,,,,,,,,, i am not against celebrating basant,,,,, but we should not call it pakistani culture,,,,it is as regional as bangra,,,,,,,,,,and hence cannot be called our culture,,,,,,,,,,, pesonally speaking, it is a hindu culture
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@thinking
dear, i never said that basant or kite-flying is a pakistani culture..........i said that it had become a part of the culture of the SUB-CONTINENT............as u have said that it is a punjabi culture,well isnt punjab a part of pakistan and if celebrating basant attracts tourists then thats another point in its favour............if u can celebrate VALENTINE'S DAY which finds its origin in the western culture then why cant we celebrate basant whose origin is in the sub-continent culture

as MR.SALEEM MALIK has made a very emotional statement about a child's head being cut and falling in his father's lap..............well to this i would say that the nacessary precautions should be taken(as i have mentioned earlier)and this is where the role of the police comes into action............all the people who make these kind of TAIZ DHAAR DHAGA should be put in jail but banning basant or kite-flying is not the answer..............[B]its as if u ban driving cars or trucks because of all the road accidents taking place[/B]............the police have to play a crucial role here in finding the real culprits who supply kids with these strings or threads or whatever u call them...........

[B]We have already many events to celebrate but we are still seeking for more.is int stupid.As compared of other progressive countries we are already backward.I think we have dozens of Islamic Festivals which we celebrate.But now time is changing by and by,western ppl have rarely time for entertainment because they know value of time.We still hanging around that what remain to do for entertainment.Anyhow,Nothing gonna change by our argument because last year it has planned to avoid basant because of aggrandization in accidents but no one had acted upon it.Atleast,We ought to take our every step toward success rather than entertainment.However,Decision is completely yours that how u prefered to live yr life.No one can ceorce
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[QUOTE=Wounded Healer]@thinking
dear, i never said that basant or kite-flying is a pakistani culture..........i said that it had become a part of the culture of the SUB-CONTINENT............as u have said that it is a punjabi culture,well isnt punjab a part of pakistan and if celebrating basant attracts tourists then thats another point in its favour............if u can celebrate VALENTINE'S DAY which finds its origin in the western culture then why cant we celebrate basant whose origin is in the sub-continent culture
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One of the purpose of the creation of was to keep islamic culture safe from the domination of hindu culture.
If a culture is sub-continental, it does not mean it should be adopted in pakistan. Holy is also a sub-continental culture, should we adopt it?

@ All
 

I WAS at Lahore a few years ago and i saw a lil girl's neck separated from her body due to a thread of a kite. she was on a bike with her father. can you imagine that? i cant. at that time i felt i lost my little sister :-( is basant justified? according to a study, every family at lahore spends Rs 25,000 averagely only on basant night(one single night). population of lahore is 7.5 mln. if we suppose that one family consists of 7.5 people (Just a rough idea) then this amount is: 25000 mln rupees if i am not wrong (multiply 25000 with 1 mln families) we can do anything with that much amount.
2ndly, our dear president and top slot people enjoy this day by actively participating in basant, nagating the fact that one fourth population of this country eat only one meal per day.
these are hard facts of life and the establishment can only say "if people dont have bread, why dont they eat cake?" they try to show that the economy is growing, but for how many people? even basic commodities are costly enough to buy.
May God bless us and send a person from within us who can vigorously pursue the right path.

@ rabdimarzi
Its really unimagineable to see a neck seprated from the body just coz of basant. and all the figures u quoted i agree with ur statistics and reasoning.
But still cant we just take it a lil lightly its just a festivle. we as a nation do so many things which are bieng adopted from other cultures.. Just like we spend millions of rupees on marriages tht mehndi and maklawa type things. we proudly follow gora saab in so many things... so wat if our ppl just get a small chance once in a year to hang around and enjoy for a lil while...

[QUOTE=rabdimarzi]I WAS at Lahore a few years ago and i saw a lil girl's neck separated from her body due to a thread of a kite. she was on a bike with her father. can you imagine that? i cant. at that time i felt i lost my little sister :-( is basant justified? according to a study, every family at lahore spends Rs 25,000 averagely only on basant night(one single night). population of lahore is 7.5 mln. if we suppose that one family consists of 7.5 people (Just a rough idea) then this amount is: 25000 mln rupees if i am not wrong (multiply 25000 with 1 mln families) we can do anything with that much amount.
2ndly, our dear president and top slot people enjoy this day by actively participating in basant, nagating the fact that one fourth population of this country eat only one meal per day.
these are hard facts of life and the establishment can only say "if people dont have bread, why dont they eat cake?" they try to show that the economy is growing, but for how many people? even basic commodities are costly enough to buy.
May God bless us and send a person from within us who can vigorously pursue the right path.[/QUOTE]

Every one has the right to enjoy even if it's the president. Talking about low income and high inflation is injust. Don't you see the high living standards of people ?
If a person can't get food it's not necessary that the government is to be blamed even if you take the super powers you will find people living below the poverty line.
The government has done a lot no doubts ! but things get stable with time.

I just cannot understand what’s the real point of difference here between the supporters of basant and kite-flying, and the opponents.

No one can oppose kite-flying or basant “in principle”. Coz neither kite-flying nor basant is against Islamic principles; or ethically or morally wrong. So the only point of discussion should be “how it should be celebrated?” so those who are opposing kite-flying and Basant should oppose the way it is celebrated. They should not waste their energies in proving kite-flying and basant wrong and unislamic. If the discussion is focused on that particular area, that would be more fruitful.

[QUOTE]I just cannot understand what’s the real point of difference here between the supporters of basant and kite-flying, and the opponents.[/QUOTE]

This Discuss is triggering the Issue that basant should be or not and an excuse arouse that A kid neck has cutted off in last basant so they are not in favor of basant.

[QUOTE]No one can oppose kite-flying or basant “in principle”. Coz neither kite-flying nor basant is against Islamic principles; or ethically or morally wrong. So the only point of discussion should be “how it should be celebrated?” so those who are opposing kite-flying and Basant should oppose the way it is celebrated. They should not waste their energies in proving kite-flying and basant wrong and unislamic. If the discussion is focused on that particular area, that would be more fruitful.[/QUOTE]

I m agree with u that it is dawdle of time to discuss about it because ppl mind never gonna change but we are just discussing the causes which is faced from last decades.We know that tail of dog never gonna b straight but A question Arises that y we squander our time for sake of fun.We dont have anything to do instead of entertainment or we are faciliating with luxurious accessories of life.I think NO,U ppl DEcide by yr own .Should we disipate our more time or endeavour for progress .

The story of basant is taught in every school of india and now is celebrated by muslims of pakistan

First of all, the dimentions of our culture is influenced by the culture of SUB continent, however its a debate that our culture is a subcontinential culture or the culture which was exisit at the time of indus vally and indus civilization.

basant isnt an indian cultural, its the culture of sub contienent and since our roots belongs to the cultutre of sub continent so its very much there in Pakistani culture too.

Many people are saying Basant should be banned because its an indian culture because it results in the loss of lives. Well, do you only consider the loss of life? how about the loss of money for which our parents suffer their whole jawani to make their children happy?

Talk about the Maiyon5kjhlh tr4sd123ras`

hi!
hermit this is wahaj. what u dscusd above is a gud topic. the money v spent on the all basant v can help our muhala and any1 who needs more bcuz our country need our help the most. ok r u appearng in css in 2011. rply plz

i just cant understand why these activities are made part of our culture.i would blame the media,media had made us so frustrated and dual minded,that we ought to believe what are shown to us.Naseem Hameed were in news for months.same the wedding of shoaib malik.where are we going.what is our taste actually.that music,songs,cinema,basant were these part of our culture?what islam says?why we sometimes act so liberal that we forget the real message of islam.
may Allah put us on right path.