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First of all, we all are responsible for these issues because its our duty to elect a honest and responsible leadership.We should be rational in our notions and actions.
Corruption is the root cause of these issues. Corruption is not in a give and take but hypocrisy is also form of corruption.
Honest leaders can tackle these issues.
Cooperation among govt institutions is indispensable to resolve these issues.
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In Pakistan every new problem has its own deep rooted cause. Insurgency in Balochistan is the result of unfair leadership there is no infrastructure still after the 67 years of independence of Pakistan.Innocent baloch is deprived of basic necessities of life Role of china, Indian interest and pro Afgan agenda come later in the list. who said our Government to be involved in soviet war.India can not be sincere with us.we are an atomic power why our Politicians have become soft target of foreign factors? Dollars are not important than human lives.
Foreign interest in our region is rooted even before our independence. we fought our freedom fight with foreign aliens and super powers showed their interest after 14 aug 1947 when ussr and us invited liaqat ali khan.
i agree to a extent that there seem minimum reason for becoming soft target for foreign factors but it is not advised to take stern actions as well. when Bush gave two options to Musharaf "EITHER WITH US OR WITH TERRORISTS," would you suggest him to go for atomic option??? As far as poor role of our politician is concern, every nation reflects his leader. our leaders are like us.
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Foreign interest in our region is rooted even before our independence. we fought our freedom fight with foreign aliens and super powers showed their interest after 14 aug 1947 when ussr and us invited liaqat ali khan.
i agree to a extent that there seem minimum reason for becoming soft target for foreign factors but it is not advised to take stern actions as well. when Bush gave two options to Musharaf "EITHER WITH US OR WITH TERRORISTS," would you suggest him to go for atomic option??? As far as poor role of our politician is concern, every nation reflects his leader. our leaders are like us.
what were the foreign interests in this this before independence is not related to our concern. After the inception only pakistanis are entitled to the resources of this land.War on terror was not our problem. why terrorists call us American slaves? Zia opened the doors of balochistan border for Mulla umer and group later on explosion in world trade center blow a wave of terror in the world. we have been badly suffered from it than any other country. Musharraf had to permit them to throw drones in our land which was the worse decision taken by him. no i would have given him an option to bring this issue in UN. Every Leader is duty bound to bring justice, equality and peace in Country. he should not forget that he is elected by the people to protect their interests. All get engaged to fill their own pockets. corruption is the root cause of all evils.

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I am missing the good old days when there was no Bomb Blasts, no target killings, no Bhata demand, no shia-sunni strif and of course, no talibans and things like that. It all started in 1979 with the invasion of Russia in Afghanistan and Pakistan taking the side of anti-Russia forces.

In my opinion, if the Pakistan would have remained neutral at that time, we might have a peaceful Pakistan today. Today, the Pak society is divided among many segments and tolerance is at zero level

On the one side are supporters of General Zia's philosphy of rigid Islam, and the other side is composed of General Mussaraf's enlightened libral class. Does it means that Army Generals are responsible for all this chaos in the society ?
Agreed. bring back to me the peace which I was used to but now the war is cutting from the very bottom our roots which might be lead to us to very serious consequences.
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what were the foreign interests in this this before independence is not related to our concern. After the inception only pakistanis are entitled to the resources of this land.War on terror was not our problem. why terrorists call us American slaves? Zia opened the doors of balochistan border for Mulla umer and group later on explosion in world trade center blow a wave of terror in the world. we have been badly suffered from it than any other country. Musharraf had to permit them to throw drones in our land which was the worse decision taken by him. no i would have given him an option to bring this issue in UN. Every Leader is duty bound to bring justice, equality and peace in Country. he should not forget that he is elected by the people to protect their interests. All get engaged to fill their own pockets. corruption is the root cause of all evils.
Agree, WOT was not our war but we were compelled to be a part of this war. we were not in position to assume any stance against sole super power when we were asked "either with them or with terrorists" and this was because of our important position on world map. it was a difficult situation and we were in do or die situation. well, WOT to some extent has become now our war. How can we tolerate "A STATE WITHIN A STATE"? can we go for implementation that form of islamic sharia in pakistan which is continuously demanded be TTP? yes, every leader has duty to do what would be very good for the nation and this was what musharaff did(as he assumes).. he has his own justification for involvement in this war. again i agree that corruption is root cause of all evils but foreign interests in this region has increased the chances for our politicians to be corrupt leaders. No doubt, military dictators remained the most favourite higher authority for US in both of wars i.e war against ussr and in WOT (Zia ul haq in anti ussr agenda and musharraf in anti terrorists) but our elected leaders who have our mandate can't take any stern action against u.s and blockage of NATO supply route by ppp govt is a good example.
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When Peace Will Return to Pakistan ?

Ans: When a person like Mao Zedong will rise & would help us in getting rid of Mullahism, Extremism & Lawlessness by dealing with irons hands. Either correct yourselves our wait for the man to correct you.
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Agree, WOT was not our war but we were compelled to be a part of this war. we were not in position to assume any stance against sole super power when we were asked "either with them or with terrorists" and this was because of our important position on world map. it was a difficult situation and we were in do or die situation. well, WOT to some extent has become now our war. How can we tolerate "A STATE WITHIN A STATE"? can we go for implementation that form of islamic sharia in pakistan which is continuously demanded be TTP? yes, every leader has duty to do what would be very good for the nation and this was what musharaff did(as he assumes).. he has his own justification for involvement in this war. again i agree that corruption is root cause of all evils but foreign interests in this region has increased the chances for our politicians to be corrupt leaders. No doubt, military dictators remained the most favourite higher authority for US in both of wars i.e war against ussr and in WOT (Zia ul haq in anti ussr agenda and musharraf in anti terrorists) but our elected leaders who have our mandate can't take any stern action against u.s and blockage of NATO supply route by ppp govt is a good example.
Now you have understood my point. yes it has become our war but indirectly America is responsible for that Pakistan ails today. yes due to our geo strategical significance we had to be part of war on terror. Corrupt politicians play all tactical movement for their own vested interests instead of the nation.The time has come to be united to combat terrorism before its too late.
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Now you have understood my point. yes it has become our war but indirectly America is responsible for that Pakistan ails today. yes due to our geo strategical significance we had to be part of war on terror. Corrupt politicians play all tactical movement for their own vested interests instead of the nation.The time has come to be united to combat terrorism before its too late.
This is what i am saying from very start of discussion. we are important for world powers and this has created space for our politicians to be more corrupt.
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It seems terrorism will takes its full course before the peace is return to Pakistan. The history shows that a full scale war is going to be fought in near future which will bring peace at last, like in Sri Lanka. We just need three things to achieve the target of peace;

1- United Pakistani Nation
2- Committed Leadership
3- Armed Force with high moral

I think 2014 will be crucial year in this regard as it has become now or never for the nation. Lets hope peace is not far now.
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everybody plz answer the following.........

1. For what we (human) are created?
2. we are Ashraful makhlooq but why?
3. What is ignorant (jaahil) plz explain with example?
4. What is modernisation?
5.about 124000 prophets were sent to us but why?
6. are we able to generate our own socio cum family laws?
7. falsely accusing anyone can we change reality?
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