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Pakistan’s ideology is based on islamic ideology.
All Pakistani are Muslim so they share common identify which unites them
However over a period of time we have realised that islamic ideology has failed to keep muslim United in Pakistan
Or in the words of Dr hassan askari rizvi the ethno-linguistic identify has trumped the Islamic identity
So the result is in front of us we are Balochi sindh pashtyun punjabi and sraiki but we are not Pakistani

Although I'm anti to this statement I don't think that islamic ideology has failed but that will open a Pandoras box


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islamic ideology hasn't failed to produce Islamic state it can still produce it, but its we who failed to impliment it on our life and society and as the other member said the result is in front of us
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ok. Turn it other way. What are impediments in establishing Islamic state in pakistan?
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Undue military interventions, , Dictatorial Democrats, crafty feudal lords and corrupt bureaucrats nexus crawled out of wood work soon after independence.
In order to serve their knavish interests they divided gullible masses along sectarian ethnic linguistic and regional lines.
Resultaantly a confused and myopic policy came to fore which do not envision islamic order for Pakistan.
In quintessence, we are not United so we can't implement islamic ideology
Two main division prevail in Pakistani state: fake liberals and extremist
The tussle between these two groups have left us in lurch that's why Pakistan is neither a liberal state nor an Islamic State rather we are confused state and bla bla bls

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I think the topic need some clarification that whom's Islamic state? Of Jinnah's or Maudodi's?? After this clarification, we'd be able to point out the pros and cons of an Islamic state in Pakistan and the hurdles that are impending the realization of an Islamic state.
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First we must consider what we mean by Islamic Ideology.
An Islamic state is headed by a person who is a Muslim with all his heart and by all his intentions. He does every thing in his power for the welfare of people. He receives Zakat from rich and spends it on deserving. He abides by the Laws of Shariah and implements Shariah as law of land.
why Pakistan hasn't become an Islamic state? Pakistan is an Islamic state by definition. But by virtue, it is not. Because our government comes form the masses and the masses , by nature, does not want Shariah fully implemented. They want the name of Shariah but they does not want its virtue. Because it rules out any shortcuts (bribery, dishonesty etc ) or it treats rich and poor alike or it takes the power form the hands of people to the Shariah. I would like to quote the example of AbuBakr (RA) when after the death of Prophet Muhammad (PBUH) arabs refused to give Zakat because it was hard on them. Although they did not refrain form ISlam and called them Muslims.
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Pakistan’s ideology is based on islamic ideology.
All Pakistani are Muslim so they share common identify which unites them
However over a period of time we have realised that islamic ideology has failed to keep muslim United in Pakistan
Or in the words of Dr hassan askari rizvi the ethno-linguistic identify has trumped the Islamic identity
So the result is in front of us we are Balochi sindh pashtyun punjabi and sraiki but we are not Pakistani

Although I'm anti to this statement I don't think that islamic ideology has failed but that will open a Pandoras box


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98% of the population of pakistan is muslim. Islamic ideology was the only reason of the creation of Pakistan. after, its inception till now we muslims are scattered. Islamic ideology can never be failed. its our leadership which has failed to make this country progressive.
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Islamic ideology has been the uniting force in the history of any nation. the muslims of the subcontinent got united under the umberalla of islamic identity. so it is not islamic identity which has failed but it is preferences which have been impured and therfor we come to call ourselves punjabis, sindhis, pakhtuns, etc...
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