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16 December Peshawar attack was more horrible than Mumbai attack, but Pakistan didn't blame India for it. Pakistan's foreign policy is not so aggressive that it will start war against India, even if India will show aggressive attitude then Pakistan will try to solve it with dialogues.
Yes, we can say that Pakistan would seek for any peaceful solution if there occurred any such condition.
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I think Iamauk wants to say that if there will be war between Pakistan and India then foreign powers will also enter in it to support their allies but in reality it is common miss-perception of the people. If we take a glance at our history then we come to know that foreign powers didn't enter in war to support Pakistan like in India Pakistan wars of 1965 and 1971 Pakistan was the member of SEATO and CENTO but both treaties didn't give any benefit to Pakistan and Pakistan was alone to fight that war, suppose if war will break out between Pakistan and India then foreign powers will not involve in it.
The USA has already suffered a lot so she will not not involve in any other's war because it is easy to start war but difficult to end it.
Yes, but time has changed in these few decades, taking these proxy wars being fought in today's world we can't expect anything getting through precedents. Although foreign hands don't get involved, if there is any nuclear war then that itself would be enough to be termed a 3rd World War. I also have optimistic approach on this but just want to know the consensus.

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There are less chances of a world war due to following reasons:-
1. Superpowers like U.S etc would prevent the conflict in becoming a war to safeguard their own existence.
2. Pakistan and India are the allies of U.S in the region. US utilizes them to counter the influence of China, a communist state: to stop the spread of communism.
3. Both Pak and India realize that in case of war there would be total chaos.
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There are less chances of a world war due to following reasons:-
1. Superpowers like U.S etc would prevent the conflict in becoming a war to safeguard their own existence.
2. Pakistan and India are the allies of U.S in the region. US utilizes them to counter the influence of China, a communist state: to stop the spread of communism.
3. Both Pak and India realize that in case of war there would be total chaos.
Nothing logical in your points. Superpowers may come to halt such any condition but when there is all suspicious atmosphere at both sides then more often it ends to inevitable situation.
Second, neither of states care about what would be outcomes & in a war never.
But for India & Pakistan if come to trusted relations then there would remain no such any factor to be pointed as a foreshadow of WW3. Nonetheless, both countries are also getting engaged in other subjects like, economy, technology, business etc. & it can reduce their interest over defensive competition.

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Nothing logical in your points. Superpowers may come to halt such any condition but when there is all suspicious atmosphere at both sides then more often it ends to inevitable situation.
Second, neither of states care about what would be outcomes & in a war never.
But for India & Pakistan if come to trusted relations then there would remain no such any factor to be pointed as a foreshadow of WW3. Nonetheless, both countries are also getting engaged in other subjects like, economy, technology, business etc. & it can reduce their interest over defensive competition.

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Actually Hasnain's post is completely logical, it is you who seems to be missing the point. A nuclear war between India and Pakistan would threaten the very existence of modern society because the nuclear fallout would have both a regional and global impact. All major powers, i.e the US, EU, China and Russia would stop a nuclear war between India and Pakistan at all costs.
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The time when World War 1 and World War 2 broke out, there was no any powerful organisation like UN, there was League of Nations which came into being at the end of First World War and was a weak organisation. Now There is proper International Law and UNO and India is trying to get her permanent seat in UN Security Council and India knows that if she will take such a foolish step then it will deteriorate her stance.
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The time when World War 1 and World War 2 broke out, there was no any powerful organisation like UN, there was League of Nations which came into being at the end of First World War and was a weak organisation. Now There is proper International Law and UNO and India is trying to get her permanent seat in UN Security Council and India knows that if she will take such a foolish step then it will deteriorate her stance.
Yeah, this point to be noted. And credit goes to Bertrand Russell.
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Actually Hasnain's post is completely logical, it is you who seems to be missing the point. A nuclear war between India and Pakistan would threaten the very existence of modern society because the nuclear fallout would have both a regional and global impact. All major powers, i.e the US, EU, China and Russia would stop a nuclear war between India and Pakistan at all costs.
Sure, I agree but doesn't it appear odd when these superpower countries predict the war between India-Pakistan, since long there are publishing in many news papers from US regarding the possibilities of Nuclear War & in Pakistani Papers too. Documentaries are being made & global impact of said war are being predicted. Then what is the point here ? What should we expect from these gestures from Superpowers ?

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Then what is the point here ? What should we expect from these gestures from Superpowers ?

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There is no reason to believe in world war or any regional war from prevailing circumstances. These gestures are not new. History repeats itself, after with drawl from Afghanistan, U.S and other world powers have not so much need of Pakistan and they have start to support India for its huge and growing population and as a competitor of china in Asia pacific region.
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These days there are many articles & views especially from US published about India-Pakistan. According to them, current scenario of south Asia presents a foreshadow of a war that may to take place between India-Pakistan. Friends what is your stance on this ? Is it hypothetical approach of US or something upon reality !
How can we say that Russia or the US will involve in India Pakistan war even that in 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea then instead of invading Russia, America and other NATO Countries imposed sanctions on her. No any country will take such a step to bear the big loss.
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Sure, I agree but doesn't it appear odd when these superpower countries predict the war between India-Pakistan, since long there are publishing in many news papers from US regarding the possibilities of Nuclear War & in Pakistani Papers too. Documentaries are being made & global impact of said war are being predicted. Then what is the point here ? What should we expect from these gestures from Superpowers ?

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No its not odd because such as I said earlier, such reports have been making the rounds for a long time. The entire cold war was based on a irrational fear of nuclear war whose chances of actually breaking out were almost zero.
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Pakistan is nor is likely to be in any position to war against any country, so putting ears to such rumors does not seems to be a wise step by anyone. There is no doubt that India is in war with Pakistan, and you can say a non stop gorilla war, which Pakistan army is defending in many parts of the country, like in balochistan and FATA etc. and now more important is that India has started corrupting our society which was once made in the name of Islam and Islamic ideology, but now everyone seems to be following India and Indian culture. War is always fought on own resources and economy, but sorry to say, Pakistan is and never seems to be in any such position. Anyone may disagree from my opinion, but fact is fact.
Being nuclear power, has been itself a problem for Pakistan, as it's a great responsibility to have atomic bomb in safe hands, which Pakistan lacks!
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