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Sub sey phly tu call for change and mussa ,u both r right in ur arguments .but call for change music k elawa ur bhi bhot si batyen hian jin per hmyen amal kerna chahye. I am agree with u k hmeyen apny virsa per fakhar kerna chahye ur so called modernisation ka drama nahi kerna chahye lakin ye chiz kya sirf music main hi impliment hoti hia kya zindgai k baqi mamlat in sey beri uz zaman hian.
2ndly abida perveen is also classical singer.and if people listen her it means that her voice and songs attract them.every person has his own choice in every sphare of life no one can impose him or herself on others.
As a pakistani main yhan per just iqbal ka ye shyer mention keron gi
thye tu aba wo tumhary hi mager tum kya ho
hath per hath dhery muntizery farda ho

and 3rdly ager humyen ye pata hia k humyen pendu hony per shirminda nahi hona chahye tu ,phir kuon hum apna hulya change ker lety hian k hum pendu na dhikhyen,ur iss k lye hum sub sey phlye apny dress code change kerty hian phir tu humyen wo bhi nahi kerna chahye ur apny culture k mutabiq life spend kerni chahye jis main music k elawa ur bhi bhot si batyen ati hian.

So mera in sub batoon ka kerny ka maqsad ye hia k time has changed every one .ur ap iss new era main rhty hoy 100 years phly ki life nahi guzar sakty .ur apny culture ko sumbhalny k lye bhot sey steps lena zarori hian khali proud kerny sy kuch hasil nahi ho ga.
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3) Agr koi pandu kehta hai to wo usually yahan mtlb Ignorant aur barbaric logon se leta hai. So its better k hum apne ap ko prhay likhe logon main milaen aur pandus honay pe fakhr na krain.
How u can say that ppl living in a village are uncivilised and illiterate? can u plz explain ur point of view in detail?

bht se illiterate ppl r knowledgeable,Alert and fully informed .jo knowledge hum aj kal k educated logo k pas nai hai aur ye kia bat hue k aik gaon mein rahnay wala person ager educated ho jae to vo apni identity he bhool jae mera nai khayal k is main sharam mahsoos kernay ki koi bat hai.ye to phir Inferiority complex wali baat a gae na.infact he/she sould feel proud of being a paindu.

aur jahan tak paray likhay logo ki bat hai to is duniya main hum aaye din parahay likhay jahil log b daikhatay hain so bat sirf soch ki hai na k paindu aur shahri ki.aur hum ko respect kerni chahiye chahye koi paindo hai ya shahri ta k agla banda b hamri respect keray.

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lgta hai ap ne meri post sahi trha parhi nahi hai. I am not against the villagers. Hon gay wo dil k achay. Main jo idhr difference bta raha hun wo aik ingnorant aur educated ka hai. Agr koi lahore main rah kr bhi illiterate hai to log usay bhi paindu kah dete hain.These terminologies are not meant to hurt the villagers. they just indicate the ignorant people.Jahil jahil hi hota hai. city ka ho ya village.
ye kaisa difference btaya hai ap ne jis mein koi logic he nai hai.aur btw ye ignorant logo ko ap ne villagers se indicate q kia hai?
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How u can say that ppl living in a village are uncivilised and illiterate? can u plz explain ur point of view in detail?

bht se illiterate ppl r knowledgeable,Alert and fully informed .jo knowledge hum aj kal k educated logo k pas nai hai aur ye kia bat hue k aik gaon mein rahnay wala person ager educated ho jae to vo apni identity he bhool jae mera nai khayal k is main sharam mahsoos kernay ki koi bat hai.ye to phir Inferiority complex wali baat a gae na.infact he/she sould feel proud of being a paindu.

aur jahan tak paray likhay logo ki bat hai to is duniya main hum aaye din parahay likhay jahil log b daikhatay hain so bat sirf soch ki hai na k paindu aur shahri ki.aur hum ko respect kerni chahiye chahye koi paindo hai ya shahri ta k agla banda b hamri respect keray.



ye kaisa difference btaya hai ap ne jis mein koi logic he nai hai.aur btw ye ignorant logo ko ap ne villagers se indicate q kia hai?
mussa is saying k jahil jahl hi hota haI chaye wo city say ho ya village say .so in my opinion he is not indicated the ignorant specifically with villagers
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hi everyone.....let me start with the words youth.....youth which you are referring to with all due respect is directionless....(majority) ub youth mai school ,college, or universities sub shamil hen........aj lkul ki young generation ka old classiky mossiqi ki taraf kum rohjan hamarey muasharay mai paiy janay wale Cultural invasion ka mu bolta saboot hai.....or is mai kasoor sirf youth ka nahi balkey parental guidance ka hai......media ne bi hamari youth ke soch per kafi gehre asrat muratab kiey hen....aj hamare baray bi us mai baraber k shareek hen......aj ki ziada ter nojawan nasal dosron ki saqafat ko apna ker fakhar mehsoos karti hai kiunke aj ke modern maa baap apnay bachun ko topper of the class ziada or well mannered kum dekhna chahtey hen.....bohat se bachon ko bachpun mai milne wala overbalanced lad piyar teenage mai aisi he youth bana deta hai jisse bohat si cheezen outdated lagne lug jati hen even gar mai mojud dadi dada and nani nana bi......mera interaction apni field ki waja se school childern mai kafi raha....mene observe kia ke un mai se kai students ko ye tuk nahi pata ta k wo o levels kinn ker rahae hen,,,hum aj apne ap ko fakhar se pkistani tou kehte hen magar at the same time hum khudnumai ka libada orhay kabi apnay bachun or behan bahiun ki islah nahi karte,,,,hum bachpun se he apni olad ko branded shoes ,branded clothes or branded cars ki adat dal kar un ki character growth per apni shallow personality ke khokhale brand ki stamp laga dete hen or phir hota kia hai k proper guidance, unhealthy company or fake mannerism mai parwan charhanye wala ye poda (child) ahista ahista murjhane lagta hai....aj hamari youth nasiraf culturaly invade ho chuki hai bulkey mashiat ke khofnak khel mai bi mulawis hai......wo kehte hen na k charity begins at home....tou hm sub ko apna bharpoor kirdar play karna hai takay hum youth or society k liey kuch ker saken.........bulke mene tou ye observe kia hai k hamare mulk k her institiution mai student counsellors hone chayen take wo early stages pe un ki shaksiat ko aik positive rukh de saken or media ko bi us mai bharpoor kirdar ada karrna hoga...........otherwise the worst is yet to cum........choice of music se ziada hamay inkey thinking mode pe kam karna ho ga.....jese computer mai programming imp hoti hai isi tarhan inki programming mai problem hai...........i wonder komo ko jagne mai kitne sal lagte hen hum bi zaroor jag jain gey....our youth have good energy we have to give it right direction.
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Hey guys,
everyone is perceiving wrong meaning of what Mussa said. If I am not wrong, he meant to say k hamare yahan PAINDU ka mutlub aise insaan ka hota hai who still is naive in his in and out, though world has touched skies. Hence, he didnt mean to refer to "rural population" at all or I can't see he said so! So, the meaning of paindu he explained is contextual, not verbal my dear fellas!

My own opinion is tht when someone uses word 'paindu', he never means k "Oh my God! u villager!" or does he??? why on earth we even think paindu is related to "PIND/GAON/COUNTRY-SIDE/VILLAGES" in any way? By using word "paindu" he means that the next person is not modernized enough, right or wrong is not a question here. thats his own stance!

Please peeps, try to grasp the context of everyone's statement before perceiving it.
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