NTS: Why should we pay every time for each job..?
 

Aslaamoalaikum,

I would like to draw the attention of all members here including seniors, juniors and CSP Officers that why should we pay NTS Rs. 800, Rs. 600 or Rs. 500 every time for each job....?? They should know that many of the people applying for such jobs are unemployed and they can’t afford to pay such amount every time when probability of getting these jobs is quite low with few limited seats for each job. Is there no one who can take action against these NTS people/management...?? Why everyone is quite and noiseless over this issue...?? Why should an unemployed guy pay for these jobs every time...??
Please raise your voice..!!
Thanks

GJB

Because there are some expenses for conducting tests everytime.

And for that they are taking Rs. 800 from unemployed students. They should ask companies for whom they are conducting these tests to pay to them; as such cost is included in their hiring expense.

[QUOTE=sumair shah;554015]Because there are some expenses for conducting tests everytime.[/QUOTE]
Well for NTS products like GAT,NAT etc they should charge fee, but I agree with jafferbhutto that organizations shall pay NTS rather than the candidates especially public sector organizations like SBP,SPD's,WASA etc

Candidates shall only bear the postage expenses and tet expenses shall be borne by public sector organizations which have their budgets from our taxes

[QUOTE=alifbaypay;554019]Well for NTS products like GAT,NAT etc they should charge fee, but I agree with jafferbhutto that organizations shall pay NTS rather than the candidates especially public sector organizations like SBP,SPD's,WASA etc

Candidates shall only bear the postage expenses and tet expenses shall be borne by public sector organizations which have their budgets from our taxes[/QUOTE]

Remember Dear organisations are here for profit not for well being of us..so we should accept tht harsh reality. .....the only possible way is that they reduce their fee to 300 or 400

I completely agree with you people. Rs. 800 & 600 is too much for a test. most of the population of Pakistan can't afford this amount. This is totally unjustified when private organizations, whose only aim is to make profit, can afford their recruitment process and don't charge the students (MCB, TCS) while the Govt. organizations, that are funded by our taxes are charging as much as Rs. 800 for a job.

I completely endorse Jaffer Bhutto's views. Employers have made this a business nowadays. Now, they ask for fees before even short listing the candidates.

This is really ridiculous. They earn more through these means rather than the cost incurred on conducting the actual test.

It looks like this has become a money minting trend now.


We should register our protest through any viable means. (i.e Newspaper, online blog, social media etc).

Not everyone can afford to pay such high test fees, and we have to break this trend before it takes the shape of a monopoly or a cartel.

When you apply for different universities then they also charge you for aptitude tests. Plus last time an attractive organization decided to bear NTS charges themselves was NAB in summer 2012. Turn out for that test was like 12-15000 candidates all over pakistan. That is like around 10 million Pak Rupees. So I really dont think that organizations can afford that. Plus I remember that many candidates who appeared in NAB test were not even eligible for the post but still applied because test was free.

I think 800 that they charged for state bank tests was un reasonable but 500 is fine.

However I personally believe that best method for NTS will be to charge 1000 per candidate for an annual test conducted by NTS. Score of that test should be valid for one year and candidates can put it in their resume while applying at Pakistani organizations.

Rs.800, 700, or even 500 cannot be acceptable.

Paying upfront fee for a university admission is acceptable because it's the applicant who will be benefiting from organization, you pay to get education and it works that way around the world.

Paying for employment is like hanging a victim. It is simply not acceptable.
People, we cannot compromise on our rights. I don't know why some here are suggesting a lower fee, rather we should be demanding TA/DA for those making it to final stage of selection process. Back in 2011 and before, NTS test for employment was free and TA/DA was a fashion.

Organizations contracting NTS have huge budgets, and I don't think well-working Human Resource Departments take a lion's share.

No sir I dont agree with you. If you make all tests free then it will cost organizations 10 million per recruitment test, which is way too much for a recruitment test. In that case, soon they will decide to screen out candidates on basis of CGPA or academic degree so that turn out is not huge. For eg only MBA with CGPA of 3.5 can apply. Then again candidates will be crying on forums saying this is unfair. Please refer to TCS MT thread on this forum and you will see what I am talking about. Again thousands applied for the post and TCS decided to use some sort of screening out method, after which many candidates dont even have their name in NTS test list.

So I think 800 is not a big deal and if candidate is really smart and deserving then he/she should clear the test.

dear nts merit based tests conduct karte hai ....result week me day daite hai ....carbon copy bh daite hai kia ye sufficient nh 800 me ....jo deserving hote hai9 wh to 2 3 tests daike he nts me select hojaege...bake others hv 2 options wither to try har or continue to suffer....hamare nation ko jitne facility de jate hai utne farmaishe barh jate hai .....jdhar 10 jagao par merit nh chalte waha to complain nh karte app...public service commission me 10 10 months lag jate hai....raise ur voice for that injustice aur merit bh nh chalte ...no doubt aj bh log demand karte haik contract merit chalane k liye nts ko dia jae....mehnat karoge to 2 3 dafa me he ache job le jaoge ...stop complainig like children

[QUOTE=alirsahto;554279]No sir I dont agree with you. If you make all tests free then it will cost organizations 10 million per recruitment test, which is way too much for a recruitment test. In that case, soon they will decide to screen out candidates on basis of CGPA or academic degree so that turn out is not huge. For eg only MBA with CGPA of 3.5 can apply. Then again candidates will be crying on forums saying this is unfair. Please refer to TCS MT thread on this forum and you will see what I am talking about. Again thousands applied for the post and TCS decided to use some sort of screening out method, after which many candidates dont even have their name in NTS test list.

So I think 800 is not a big deal and if candidate is really smart and deserving then he/she should clear the test.[/QUOTE]


But a deserving candidate can miss the opportunity just bcz of fee

ABL paid the charges of test for MTO.

But with few limited seats, it’s impossible for every intelligent individual to get the job and yes it is discouraging/refraining poor people from applying for such jobs. Companies should bear the cost of their recruitment drives and if they want students who are unemployed to share something in recruitment process then they should rather advertise “We need money and will hire 2 persons from thousands applicants”, so is anyone interested in gambling with us…?
Some of the people here are discussing that why should companies bear all the cost and why shouldn’t NTS charge students amounts like Rs. 800. So, Brothers, if you calculate Rs. 800 with say 5000 Applicants from all over Pakistan for a particular job, it equals 4,000,000 (40 Lacs) and if you increase the number with applications rejected, who also are taken money before shortlisting, so the amount increases and this is injustice.

For those Supporting these Tricksters, I would just say:
"When one has been threatened with a great injustice, one accepts a smaller as a favor."

Stand against Injustice as

“Injustice anywhere is a threat to justice everywhere.”
― Martin Luther King Jr.

NTS is menting money on every test, not considering Who is unemployed or cant pay. Some friends saying here that every organization purpose is to earn money, agreed but those who are unemployed or cant pay where they should go????????

Secondly if we are paying fees out of thousands only few people got the job and nts after conducting tests send result to concerned organization and oranization which include only few banks according to that NTS merit list call people for interview and remaining all other organizations Private or Public Make there own Sifarshi Merit lists ;).

So we should raise voice against whom NTS or ??? there should be other organization who ensure wheather selection was on merit or not?? Except NAB.
:thinking

and i forgot to mention Rs.50 they charge on each mobile phone of candidates.. they have made this their business. They dont even ensure that Wall Clocks are there in the classes where the test has been conducted neither they have carbon copies these days.

I appeared for a test recently and asked a lady invigilator about the wall clock, she just said, its not us, its the university NED who should be blamed for it. Then i replied to her, so why we are paying you Rs. 800 for this test. she had no answer, so i walked away from her.

Injustice
 

Let me tell you one more thing NTS(National Testing Service) has no legal status. NTS is a private organization. One thing more NTS gives heavily bribes to the officials of the organization to conduct their test. AN high official in a reputed government sector organization told me that NTS has given huge bribes to their organization to conduct their test. NTS is a profit making organization and nothing then that. The paper setting is also have many fault lines. There is no current affair, Pakistan studies, Islamiat in any of their test:vangry. Indeed iam totally against the NTS. heavy fees are charged by them every time and no walk clock is their in every of my test.

Why analytical reasoning questions are asked for employment test. i think analytical and logical reasoning have no sense the job test!!!!:sad

Khuda Yar Hussain Baloch

You are very right.I ignore many tests just because i could not afford to pay for those tests.70% candidates like me are not able to avail oppurtunities because they can not afford to pay for it. Governement should pay attention at this and by this forum we can raise our vioce agianst this.

Dear mery friend ne NTS k through PSO ka test pass kya r interview dye hoye 2 years hu gy koi reply ni aya. And second thing ye k ap khud daikh lain State Bank k test k lye sab deciplines ko bulaya gya hmary han se 500 log appear hoye and criteria ye rkha gya k har section me 70% b hon and pver all 75% b. Ye mazaq ni hy ?

I agree with you. Agar organization ye bta dy k kitni seats vacant hain tab be bhtar hy

Sir passing test is not problem. If a person can not afford to pay for test then how would he appear for test even he is deserving?????

NTS should find other ways to mint money
 

It is absolutely an unnecessary expense on the pockets of unemployed candidates like me.I think Rs.500 or Rs.800 may be very small amount for some of the candidates but what about the rest. Why does NTS not shortlist the candidates by online applications. NTS can invest in installation of shortlisting programs which can filter the candidates by their online applications with very less human resources.

There is no just logic in charging so much money from the candidates. The respectable members who have advocated NTS in charging fee assume that if a candidate is capable he or she would have no problem to pay the fee. This is not the case always. I think NTS charges the candidates just because they have little bargaining power and have no option other than to pay what NTS wants them to pay. NTS should charge the organizations who have hefty HR budgets instead of unemployed candidates.

As far as profit seeking is concerned, I agree NTS needs to be a profitable organization to run smoothly but it should earn this profit from the organizations not from the candidates.

[QUOTE=Khudayar;575992]Let me tell you one more thing NTS(National Testing Service) has no legal status. NTS is a private organization. [/QUOTE]

NTS is a semi-autonomous body not a private organization.

[QUOTE=amjadsilachi;576044]
Dear mery friend ne NTS k through PSO ka test pass kya r interview dye hoye 2 years hu gy koi reply ni aya. And second thing ye k ap khud daikh lain State Bank k test k lye sab deciplines ko bulaya gya hmary han se 500 log appear hoye and criteria ye rkha gya k har section me 70% b hon and pver all 75% b. Ye mazaq ni hy ?

I agree with you. Agar organization ye bta dy k kitni seats vacant hain tab be bhtar hy
[/QUOTE]

NTS is only a test conducting organization. NTS hasn't any info that how many seats are vacant. They have to follow the instructions of their clients for example uploading of answer keys, when to announce the result, dispatch of result cards, etc. If client says that there is no need to announce the result on website then NTS can't do against it.
Aur NTS test ki base py jo merit bnta hy us main NTS walon ki koi marzi shamil nhi hoti. If anyone feels any problem tu wo jis organization ka test dy rha hy us sy contact krna chahiay. NTS ko blame krnay ka koi faida nhi hy.

[QUOTE=Chap X;576092]It is absolutely an unnecessary expense on the pockets of unemployed candidates like me.I think Rs.500 or Rs.800 may be very small amount for some of the candidates but what about the rest.
As far as profit seeking is concerned, I agree NTS needs to be a profitable organization to run smoothly but it should earn this profit from the organizations not from the candidates.[/QUOTE]

NTS is a test conducting body like FPSC, PPSC, etc. Have you ever raised your voice against testing fees of FPSC, PPSC, etc? Others announce result after many months. But NTS prepares the result within 2-3 weeks or according to wish of their clients.

Companies and financial institutions should pay all charges by themselves.Because a fresh candidate has no earning source so it is totally unfair by NTS.

Arain007 FPSC & PPSC charges only 300 to 400 rupees for their each and every test. Complete list of Pass candidates are uploaded on the website.FPSC & PPSC works for the government and are also government sector organization.FPSC and PPSC have full command to take test and recruit for government organization. I would like to say their is no comparison between FPSC,PPSC and NTS. :thinking


I would like to say that NTS is a money minting organization nothing then that.

Khuda Yar Hussain Baloch

[QUOTE=Arain007;576203]


NTS is a test conducting body like FPSC, PPSC, etc. Have you ever raised your voice against testing fees of FPSC, PPSC, etc? Others announce result after many months. But NTS prepares the result within 2-3 weeks or according to wish of their clients.[/QUOTE]

Okay NTS saves times but it is a benefit to the employer organizations too. Why does NTS not convince those big clients to pay extra for the saved time? Why should the candidates have to pay almost three times more for the screening tests? I think this time saving should be charged to the organizations which can bear this cost more easily than the unemployed candidates can.
The other point I want to make here is that FPSC may be charging these Rs.300 to filter serious candidates just because these commissions are forced to do so. Due to bureaucratic rigidity, these public commissions might be unable to introduce advanced online recruitment systems. On the other side, a semi-autonomous organization like NTS can introduce such a system with little bureaucratic opposition and in this way can facilitate all stakeholders including unemployed candidates.

Let me tell you one thing more Punjab public service and Federal public service is using the same system. The paper is check by the computer.


One thing which public service should tell each candidate about their performance i me marks should be uploaded for each candidate. :thinking

khuda yar hussain baloch

[QUOTE=Chap X;576350]Okay NTS saves times but it is a benefit to the employer organizations too. Why does NTS not convince those big clients to pay extra for the saved time? Why should the candidates have to pay almost three times more for the screening tests? I think this time saving should be charged to the organizations which can bear this cost more easily than the unemployed candidates can.
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How NTS can convince their clients to pay them more? Candidates should raise their voice and try to convince employer organizations to pay more for screening test, so that NTS will reduce the fee.

Organizations feel at ease by transferring their burden to NTS. It becomes headache of NTS to screen out required number of candidates out of thousands within a short time. NTS is always ready to conduct test on short notice. But public service commissions progress with slow speed.

The Rs300 charges are for filtring serious people because if the do not charge it such candidates may apply who are not serious.

Rs. 900 for each EOBI Jobs :(

BROTHER it's not only with jobs recently, i saw an add for students scholorship program in that a testing service (not NTS) asked 750 rupee for conducting the scholorship test. they do not think that if someone is applying for scholorship he must have some problems to continue his studies and that is why he is applying for.

There should be some registration fee valid for one year.

is my application rejected?
 

Dear all
i submitted my application form for SBOT State bank officers test but i have not got any text message from NTS and they are not picking up the phone i have called them many times. Does that means my application is rejected can i appeal any where ? please reply as soon as possible