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Nushrah Kabir Wednesday, February 12, 2014 09:18 AM

serious dilemma....
 
Today Pakistan is passing through a serious dilemma but as a Pakistani i am still very much hopeful that a day will come__ as the calendar of 1947 is repeating itself, so lets hope we have the same enthusiasm and passion for our country....:rrolleyes
The most important thing that we Pakistanis need in my point of view is self-actualization....
Let yourself be drawn by the stronger pull of that which you truly love.”
― Rumi
We have forgotten that who we were, who we are and have no sense who will be..One thing must be clear here that the whole world recognize us as Pakistanis and by adopting European culture we will not be called as European we will remain Pakistanis....Now coming towards point that almost everyone knows the meaning of Pakistan as 'The Land of pure people' but sorry to say only a few feels the meaning. So what else we can conquer if we still haven't conquer the meaning of our country now a time has come that all of the Pakistanis including me should start living for our country .Time has come that we should realize what our moral and national characters are and what it should be....my words are not only words i mean it...
"WE CAN NOT EXCEPT CHANGE WITHOUT CHANGING OURSELVES"
:vic:vic

Maha Khan Wednesday, February 12, 2014 09:27 AM

[QUOTE=Nushrah Kabir;694284]Today Pakistan is passing through a serious dilemma but as a Pakistani i am still very much hopeful that a day will come__ as the calendar of 1947 is repeating itself, so lets hope we have the same enthusiasm and passion for our country....:rrolleyes
The most important thing that we Pakistanis need in my point of view is self-actualization....
Let yourself be drawn by the stronger pull of that which you truly love.”
― Rumi
We have forgotten that who we were, who we are and have no sense who will be..One thing must be clear here that the whole world recognize us as Pakistanis and by adopting European culture we will not be called as European we will remain Pakistanis....Now coming towards point that almost everyone knows the meaning of Pakistan as 'The Land of pure people' but sorry to say only a few feels the meaning. So what else we can conquer if we still haven't conquer the meaning of our country now a time has come that all of the Pakistanis including me should start living for our country .Time has come that we should realize what our moral and national characters are and what it should be....my words are not only words i mean it...
"WE CAN NOT EXCEPT CHANGE WITHOUT CHANGING OURSELVES"
:vic:vic[/QUOTE]

Yes, but I could not comprehend one thing btw, why we always blame to the western culture for all our present day miseries and troubles. ?? even Sir Syed Ahmad Khan to Allama Iqbal, every Muslim leader talked about this western culture. This debate is useless. We should accept that in the modern era, we have to come across with various culture and civilizations. The only thing we should do to work for the welfare of the country. we need to be an enlightened Muslim, not those who consider others as" Kafirs", if they dressed themselves in jeans, and listen English songs.:waiting Time has come to change our mindsets.

Nushrah Kabir Wednesday, February 12, 2014 09:34 AM

Sorry Mam but i will still remain in my point of view...because i believe that there will be no shops unless buyers would be there.....

Maha Khan Wednesday, February 12, 2014 09:40 AM

[QUOTE=Nushrah Kabir;694287]Sorry Mam but i will still remain in my point of view...because i believe that there will be no shops unless buyers would be there.....[/QUOTE]

I am also stick to my point of view. Western culture is not only responsible for all our misfortunes. our conservative approach is making the things worse.:king
we have closed our eyes from the realities of life, blaming others for our troubles is a good idea but this approach does not always work.

Nushrah Kabir Wednesday, February 12, 2014 09:53 AM

[QUOTE=Maha Khan;694288]I am also stick to my point of view. Western culture is not only responsible for all our misfortunes. our conservative approach is making the things worse.:king
we have closed our eyes from the realities of life, blaming others for our troubles is a good idea but this approach does not always work.[/QUOTE]
I am not trying to hide ourselves in other nutshell.....I have said that we are dead people moving towards ally street and in this time only and only self actualization can save us in my point of view ...a lot to be amend..long debate

Invincible Wednesday, February 12, 2014 03:52 PM

[QUOTE=Nushrah Kabir;694292]I am not trying to hide ourselves in other nutshell.....I have said that we are dead people moving towards ally street and in this time only and only self actualization can save us in my point of view ...a lot to be amend..long debate[/QUOTE]

[B]What is self actualization according to you?
[/B]

Nushrah Kabir Wednesday, February 12, 2014 04:20 PM

[QUOTE=Invincible;694368][B]What is self actualization according to you?
[/B][/QUOTE]
I believe in Allama Iqbal concept of self actualization...means time has come where we have to realize that we are muslims and the country in which we are living has come into being on the ideology of islam...we need to feel the name of our country...

transition Wednesday, February 12, 2014 04:37 PM

@nushrah kabir
 
whats new? wohi purani afsanwi baten....be practical and do something on your level,baton se kch ni hota

Nushrah Kabir Wednesday, February 12, 2014 04:44 PM

no no absolutely not a "afsanwi bat"....i have said that these are not just words i mean it...the problem is that in search of new we have totally forgotten our history....not empty words playing my role....

Maha Khan Wednesday, February 12, 2014 05:12 PM

[QUOTE=Nushrah Kabir;694374]I believe in Allama Iqbal concept of self actualization...means time has come where we have to realize that we are muslims and the country in which we are living has come into being on the ideology of islam...we need to feel the name of our country...[/QUOTE]

What is ideology of Islam??...Are we not living in a Muslim country?? is not our constitution according to Islam??...we realized that immediately after independence, the core problem lies in the fact that we have become just" Muslims", not" Momin"...we need to opt positive and enlighten approach of life. we should do some thing practical. Allam Iqbal presented his concept of "self-actualization", many years ago , it means, that time Muslims were also living in the same conditions in which they are living right now.


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