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nice051 Tuesday, August 16, 2011 10:54 AM

icto/captain queries
 
aoa! h r u all. dear frndz i have a few queries to inquire from u. i have been called by army for issb for the post of icto . icto is equal to captain. my queries r as under: what r prick and privilege available to icto ? is it a charmimg career for an engineer? whats about promotion? how would u rank icto vs civil servent? after joining will they allow to take exams like css pms etc? dear frndz and seniors i am looking forward for u precious replies.

SinfullSaint Tuesday, August 16, 2011 11:33 AM

Have they given you date of your issb test. Do they took initial interview from you and after your physical test how many days they take to call u for issb.

nice051 Wednesday, August 17, 2011 01:37 PM

Bro I belong to Batch2. one more query, is there any provision in army that if a person selected through Direct short service commission for the post ICTO can switch to other branches , for instance , SSG, ISI, Infantry,etc ? kindly give me info about this and also about my previous post.:ph34r:

Fatima47 Tuesday, September 13, 2011 08:09 AM

[QUOTE=nice051;340387]aoa! h r u all. dear frndz i have a few queries to inquire from u. i have been called by army for issb for the post of icto . icto is equal to captain. my queries r as under: what r prick and privilege available to icto ? is it a charmimg career for an engineer? whats about promotion? how would u rank icto vs civil servent? after joining will they allow to take exams like css pms etc? dear frndz and seniors i am looking forward for u precious replies.[/QUOTE]

All the perks that are available to officers will be available to you as well.

I believe its a decent career for an engineer (looking at unemployment in our country).

I aint sure about promotion because normally, Captains (talking about officers who come from L/C) can take Capt. to Maj. promotion exam after they have served four years in army. Plus, it will be hard to become a Maj. Gen.

You are allowed to take exams (before 28 years of age). Now the fact is that if you are an average officer in army, you can make you way to civil services. If you are an ace officer or a below average officer, you'll never be selected.

Fatima47 Tuesday, September 13, 2011 08:13 AM

[QUOTE=nice051;340990]Bro I belong to Batch2. one more query, is there any provision in army that if a person selected through Direct short service commission for the post ICTO can switch to other branches , for instance , SSG, ISI, Infantry,etc ? kindly give me info about this and also about my previous post.:ph34r:[/QUOTE]

People selected through DSSC actually serve in supporting branches. They cannot switch to fighting arms (Infantry, Arty or Armoured Corps). So you'll have to serve in your parent formation but yes, even you can get a chance to serve in ISI. ISI postings are never for you entire life. You go tehre, serve for a couple of years and come back to your parent unit. Same holds true for SSG. For SSG, one has to volunteer and then there is a procedure for induction to SSG.

azizlashari Tuesday, September 13, 2011 08:19 AM

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The candidates reporting at ISSB are subjected to an elaborate selection system and the ones with requisite leadership potentials are recommended to undergo training in the three services academies.[/SIZE]

nice051 Sunday, September 18, 2011 03:12 PM

[QUOTE=Fatima47;351597]All the perks that are available to officers will be available to you as well.

I believe its a decent career for an engineer (looking at unemployment in our country).

I aint sure about promotion because normally, Captains (talking about officers who come from L/C) can take Capt. to Maj. promotion exam after they have served four years in army. Plus, it will be hard to become a Maj. Gen.

You are allowed to take exams (before 28 years of age). Now the fact is that if you are an average officer in army, you can make you way to civil services. If you are an ace officer or a below average officer, you'll never be selected.[/QUOTE]

i would really appreciate ur reply to my queries , but a few queries still remain unanswered. i got an impression from ur post that icto is a good job but at the time it is hard to get promotion after MAJOR . one more thing as we all know that a captain in army is exempted from written exam of css , is this previlige also available to icto. remember he has to sign a 7 years bond to serve army .

Fatima47 Tuesday, September 20, 2011 12:47 AM

[QUOTE=nice051;353732]i would really appreciate ur reply to my queries , but a few queries still remain unanswered. i got an impression from ur post that icto is a good job but at the time it is hard to get promotion after MAJOR . one more thing as we all know that a captain in army is exempted from written exam of css , is this previlige also available to icto. remember he has to sign a 7 years bond to serve army .[/QUOTE]


No. I didnt mean to say that promotion from Capt. to Maj. is hard. Its just that I do not have much idea about policies for supporting arms. Yes, the same privilege will be available to you as well. Give me a day or two and I'll get everything confirmed inshaAllah.

ASIFMALIK Tuesday, September 20, 2011 09:18 AM

Dear ICTO Promotion is hard at highest level as according to my close relative who is currently a caption(ICTO ), to become brigadier one must have PHD qualification.

nice051 Tuesday, September 20, 2011 02:51 PM

[QUOTE=Fatima47;354341]No. I didnt mean to say that promotion from Capt. to Maj. is hard. Its just that I do not have much idea about policies for supporting arms. Yes, the same privilege will be available to you as well. Give me a day or two and I'll get everything confirmed inshaAllah.[/QUOTE]
@Fatima , Dear I would be highly greatful to u if u clear all the points that I posted in my previous threads. and surely u can take ur time

[QUOTE=ASIFMALIK;354420]Dear ICTO Promotion is hard at highest level as according to my close relative who is currently a caption(ICTO ), to become brigadier one must have PHD qualification.[/QUOTE]

@Asif Dear if u can ask the queries inquired in my previous thread from ur relative (iCTO) I would be highly greatful to u

Fatima47 Thursday, September 22, 2011 12:04 PM

@ nice051

I asked a friend of mine and he thought that I was interested in applying for ICTO so he said that for female officers, its gonna be something new and different. I am posting his reply as it is. It goes like...

"N as far as CSS is cncrnd, its true dat army offrs only appear in interview but its not in the hand of an offr weather male or female to go n appear in dat interview..its in the handS of MS Branch..like in every Long crs v r around 350-400 cadets n only 4,5 r called for dat interview...Sm say its all abt safarish n sm say its abt luck..i dun wana comment on dat ..My crs mate has recently joined police cz he got a big safarish..
So dun join for ds css thing..cz u ll ve .1 % chances k ur name ll come..."

nice051 Thursday, September 22, 2011 02:34 PM

[QUOTE=Fatima47;355497]@ nice051

I asked a friend of mine and he thought that I was interested in applying for ICTO so he said that for female officers, its gonna be something new and different. I am posting his reply as it is. It goes like...

"N as far as CSS is cncrnd, its true dat army offrs only appear in interview but its not in the hand of an offr weather male or female to go n appear in dat interview..its in the handS of MS Branch..like in every Long crs v r around 350-400 cadets n only 4,5 r called for dat interview...Sm say its all abt safarish n sm say its abt luck..i dun wana comment on dat ..My crs mate has recently joined police cz he got a big safarish..
So dun join for ds css thing..cz u ll ve .1 % chances k ur name ll come..."[/QUOTE]

i am thankful for ur generous reply. if possible kindly clear otherr points of my threads as well.

Fatima47 Thursday, September 22, 2011 06:20 PM

[QUOTE=nice051;355572]i am thankful for ur generous reply. if possible kindly clear otherr points of my threads as well.[/QUOTE]

You probably asked about serving in SSG. Officers from supporting arms cannot volunteer for SSG.

You asked about promotion. There is only one promotion exam i.e Capt to Maj. Afterwards, its the board that promotes you seeing you ACRs etc and every competent officer can be a Gen. Basic promotion exam can be taken once you are a commissioned exam and have served for 2 years (though I aint sure. Have asked it from my friend, lets see what he says).

Is there anything else that I missed?

Hussain_qureshi Thursday, September 22, 2011 06:32 PM

[QUOTE=Fatima47;355497]@ nice051

I asked a friend of mine and he thought that I was interested in applying for ICTO so he said that for female officers, its gonna be something new and different. I am posting his reply as it is. It goes like...

"N as far as CSS is cncrnd, its true dat army offrs only appear in interview but its not in the hand of an offr weather male or female to go n appear in dat interview..its in the handS of MS Branch..like in every Long crs v r around 350-400 cadets n only 4,5 r called for dat interview...Sm say its all abt safarish n sm say its abt luck..i dun wana comment on dat ..My crs mate has recently joined police cz he got a big safarish..
So dun join for ds css thing..cz u ll ve .1 % chances k ur name ll come..."[/QUOTE]

are the ISI Officers recruited like AD's eligible for exemption from CSS written exam?

regards

Hussain Qureshi

Fatima47 Thursday, September 22, 2011 06:44 PM

@ nice051

Sorry, I was wrong about basic promotion test. Here is reply from my friend...
"every grad crs got a seniority equalant to a long course..like all engr guy who passed out wid me in 113 L\C they got the snrity of 111 L\C ..cz they ve already spent 5 years in NUST ..so they were made snr to us after passing out.. we long crs guys r eligible to appear in capt to maj exam 4 years after passing out....so all those engr guys who passed out wid me they were eligible to appear after 3 years cz they ll appear in dat exam Wid the crs they were given snrty ..."

Hope its clear now.

@ Hussain Qureshi

I didnt get you.

Hussain_qureshi Thursday, September 22, 2011 06:57 PM

well, if any ISI officers like Assistant Director want to appear in CSS, would eligible for exemption of written part of it ?

in addition to that ISI officers like Assistant Director can join SSG ?

regards

Hussain Qureshi

usmanamjad87 Thursday, September 22, 2011 07:41 PM

[QUOTE=Hussain_qureshi;355699]well, if any ISI officers like Assistant Director want to appear in CSS, would eligible for exemption of written part of it ?

in addition to that ISI officers like Assistant Director can join SSG ?

regards

Hussain Qureshi[/QUOTE]

For both of your queries answer is No.
AD ISI is not a uniformed person, and have to go through written part as well.

nice051 Friday, September 23, 2011 12:22 AM

my main aim of triggering this moot is to get more and more knowledge and to create awareness in the upcoming engineers. when i was at AS&RC , the few people to whom i met really lowered my spirit as they told me that ICTO was not respectful job, according to them juniors would not salute an icto officer. ICTO is called as chacha at PMA. ICTO is selected as captain but after becoming MAJOR its hard for a person who got commission in army on DSSR got further promotion. these points are dirturbing and creating low spirits among engrs. i am highly greatful to my fellows for comming up with generous replies.

kingfalcon Wednesday, November 02, 2011 07:29 AM

[QUOTE=nice051;355794]my main aim of triggering this moot is to get more and more knowledge and to create awareness in the upcoming engineers. when i was at AS&RC , the few people to whom i met really lowered my spirit as they told me that ICTO was not respectful job, according to them juniors would not salute an icto officer. ICTO is called as chacha at PMA. ICTO is selected as captain but after becoming MAJOR its hard for a person who got commission in army on DSSR got further promotion. these points are dirturbing and creating low spirits among engrs. i am highly greatful to my fellows for comming up with generous replies.[/QUOTE]


Is this true? Could someone please clarify this for us? Thanks

Inayatullah panhwar Monday, June 15, 2020 12:44 PM

Kindly Guide me about Pak Army as Captain ICTOs DSSC Course June 2020.
what is process of test and where from I can prepare.
and please guide me step by step about all tests.


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