Please provide a extract..........of which Recruitment Rules you are mentioning?

I have mentioned NA in caste section of application form, lets see if my application is rejected or not?

Dear Member you did not get my point.

I have not mentioned anywhere that asking caste / sect is not mandate of MoD.

I know that profile is maintained and it contains all info about individual.

I have also not mentioned anywhere that MoD is not of private nature of job and they can not ask us this info.

Every one has just got overwhelmed over this question.

Plz plz relax and re-read my lines.

What i said is that asking this info before Employment is not required.

Any civil servant after having employed needs to go through verification as per the proforma of the establishment division through Police, IB Special Branch and by other agencies in case of other specific departments according to their sensitivity. I know it and know it well.


My Question is that:-

Before Recruitment, a candidate's info which is required to recruit is asked :-

Marks in Different Degrees, Institutions attended, Name & other Bio-Datum including Domicile & home address. Everything has a purpose.

Domicile tells which Province and under which quota the candidate falls.

Marks, Experience & other academic background also is necessary for merit.

Also, you can say that asking Religion is OK as Minorities have Quota too.

Gender as well as they have quota.

Disabled on the same analogy.


My question has never been why MoD is asking this info??????

Asking at pre-test stage means surely it would influence your selection.

If not then, what was the rationale behind it??????


Plz do not tell me that what they can ask or what they can not ask. They can ask and will ask everything even the info about great grandfather to your far-far uncle aunties and so on but that is after selection on a form..........why that much info is being asked now if the profile is to be maintained right from now.........


The issue is that such info of Caste and Sect should not be asked at this stage.

No recruitment rules allow these kind of application forms. Even the most lengthy application of CSS does not ask such info (even when they ask mother / father name and number of brothers and order of the applicant in the children..........)


Question is not only Why , the question is Why Now??????

well.. no body knows why they ask such questions, but as far as i have seen the forms of different law enforcement agencies, All of em ask the same on initial stage, except Police, where these kind of questions were asked after selection. may be any Experienced, Retired Official can tell the logic behind those questions. but the thing i have noticed so far, that this information don't influence the selection of any candidate.

You have percieved it wrong Amna. castes are only to identify a person. it has nothing to do with feudalism . they are not all chaudaries..... nor sardars or waderas. be positive and I guess castes are a part of our identity. be proud of what you are. lastly there is no harm in telling your caste. B.O.L

Mr. Ranjha, Salman Taseer was a blasphemer and his assassination has nothing to do with the MoD job.

Sister, I protest against the inclusion of "caste" section too. Inquiring about the caste clear-cut shows bias.

It is mentality like yours that is the ruin of our great nation, You NEED extra credit just because your fore fathers were cobblers? Hilarious! I have yet to see Harvard, Berkley, NYU award extra credit to someone who's father was a brick layer!

Life isn't fair, deal with it... As for the form for MoD, personal I agree with OP, Even after 65 years of independence we are still divided. Caste, creed, sect, is all USELESS! We are all Muslims, Pakistanis, end of story. We NEED to promote an ideology on coherence not segregation.

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Prophet Muhammed (SAW) never had any one executed on the pretext of Blasphemy, then why is it that in Pakistan there exists such a law that can be easily enacted to inflict harm on innocents? Someone can get up and shout BLASPHEMER! and a poor soul gets hanged! Yet we won't hang, target killers, corrupt politicians and bureaucrats.

Even if Salam Taseer was a Blasphemer; shouldn't a Sharia court have decided his fate? In Saudi Arabia there are different levels of Blasphemy and hence different levels of punishments; there are fines, lashes, imprisonment, and the last resort is death penalty.

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We agree at times and also disagree at times as was the case between pak post and me. There is nothing wrong in doing so as long as it is done within the confines of etiquettes. You views seems very personal, condemnable and importantly contrary to Forum Rules , requiring due attention of thread starter and Moderators.

what should we write in sect. portion of nts form??? kindly reply soon