... And the drama unfolds, SPSC ordered to prove legitimacy: C.C.E 2013
 

SPSC officials told to clarify exam irregularities

Karachi

The Sindh High Court on Tuesday directed the Sindh Public Service Commission secretary and others to file comments over a petition that questions the competence of the commission’s chairman and members.

The petitioners, Imtiaz Ali Shah and Sultan Ahmed, have sought screening tests for the provincial civil services examination, submitting that the SPSC had screened 18,000 candidates for over 200 provincial civil service posts including assistant commissioners, excise and taxation, labour and section officers.

Providing details of alleged irregularities in the exams, they submitted that the commission had ‘illegally’ conducted screening tests for the written exams and that the passing mark initially set at 30 percent was later moved up to 50 percent.

Questioning the commission’s competence, the petitioners’ counsel, Shafqat Hussain Masoomi, claimed that answers to 11 of the exam’s questions were incorrect. Furthermore, they said there was no provision for screening tests in the rules of the commission.

The petitioners alleged that children from influential political families had been allowed to use unfair means during the test, which was held on December 28, 2014, and that a total of nine ‘grace marks’ were awarded to ‘favourites’ who had otherwise failed the exam.

They requested the court to declare the screening tests illegal and restrain the commission from holding this year’s written combined competitive examinations, which commenced on Tuesday.

The counsel submitted that an identical petition against the appointment of the SPSC chairman was also pending before the SHC which could be heard collectively.

The SHC bench observed that a rejoinder affidavit needed to be filed by the SPSC on the petitions as a number of averments have been made by the commission in its comments.

It further said that since the SPSC exams had commenced, the petitions may have an effect and directed the court office to tag all similar petitions for a hearing on April 16.

The court clarified that if one or more of the petitions succeeded, or if the court deemed appropriate, the SPSC shall be bound to arrange separate written examination for within a specified timeframe.

[url]http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-4-311444-SPSC-officials-told-to-clarify-exam-irregularities[/url]

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[QUOTE=Tenrai;819185]
It further said that since the SPSC exams had commenced, the petitions may have an effect and directed the court office to tag all similar petitions for a hearing on April 16.

The court clarified that if one or more of the petitions succeeded, or if the court deemed appropriate, the SPSC shall be bound to arrange separate written examination for within a specified timeframe.

[url]http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-4-311444-SPSC-officials-told-to-clarify-exam-irregularities[/url]

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SPSC shall be bound to arrange separate written examination? Does this mean, all our hard work will be in vain? intriguing!

Your views?


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what will happen now C.C.E 2013 is going on

Nothing will happen fellows, same petition thing happened back in 2009 CCE exam aswell, and kuch bhi nahi huwa tha

Any thing is possible,what if court court declares exams null and void?:thinking:thinking:thinking

^Exactly what I have been worried about; if the High Court decides against SPSC that would mean screening test will become null void and SPSC will be forced to retake written examination; this would be a challenge, considering the total number of aspirants is in tens of thousands. Further more, where will they get the funds to conduct exams?

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After going through this thread and the comments of the court, it can be said without any doubt that court will order the SPSC in upcoming hearings to conduct the fresh exam for all the aspirants who could not appeared due to the screening test. They may or may not nullify the existing exam but they will surely order a parallel exam of same nature to be conducted in future .

Secondly if the chairman is also dislodged than things may further be deteriorated. If Court has admitted these petitions than they are definitely going to safeguard the rights of almost 20,000 aspirants who were short listed and affected by screening test.

No cancellation no nothing could happen against the decree of ADI , ADDO and dozens of their SPOONS.
Every institute serves political will of the so called democracy, Sindh high court is no exception. PPP has to get it done by the end of this year and none dares withhold them from accomplishing it. Be it the judges or the commission. The ones you are looking forward for the dispensation of justice are all sold.
Enjoy the drama queen , go home retire to bed have some wonderful dreams because for you this set up has nothing more than dreamy lollypops.

It's an exam dear, which has already commenced, not a drama. And I could not find a single man who used influence to passed the screening test.

And nine grace marks were given because only nine answer keys were incorrect. Therefore, the counsel for the petitioner shall come up with a new excuse. As It is not going to work.

Moreover grace marks were not given to favorites ,its also accusation :sleeping ;)

[PHP][/PHP][QUOTE=Jamil Mughal;819287]And nine grace marks were given because only nine answer keys were incorrect. Therefore, the counsel for the petitioner shall come up with a new excuse. As It is not going to work.[/QUOTE]

"3", not "9", marks were awarded by the SPSC according to their notification; see there is already ambiguity, things aren't looking too good. Chief minister Sindh has ordained, all selections after June will be presided by a selection committee. Meaning they'd sell posts. Current going rate for SDM is 7million and there are 45 vacancies; 7 x 45 = 315 million. I think PPP government will get the judge to annul CCE 2013, and ordain reexamination. Effectively setting plan in motion to harvest Rs 315 million ($ 31.5million)

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[QUOTE=Jamil Mughal;819286]It's an exam dear, which has already commenced, not a drama. And I could not find a single man who used influence to passed the screening test.[/QUOTE]

Considering your apt use Of English grammar; might I suggest, may be, they were "Women" who benefited from biased favouritism? High Court can, and has, annulled commission results in the past.

Not drama you say? What would you call mismanagement during Islamic history exam? Placid reflection of though!?

Pray

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I don't want to painstakingly waste my time in telling you the modern usages of the word "man".

However, this shows and proves that why were you failed in screening test. Perhaps; it's not the acumen and insight, but, the morality and buckling down.

Nothing is going to happen, do whatever you like. If anything happens, then the roads and courts are opened for everyone, including the qualifiers of screening test.

SPSC has certainly committed blunders in the past. But this time, it has come up with a new ardour and gusto.

Unconditional support for the SPSC, a growing institution. And that the screening test was a massive success on the part of the institution.

Besides; you point fingers at SPSC, because it is a provincial institution, and it can be approached easily. Why don't you question the decisions of FPSC? Or the results announced for general recruitment phases of FPSC, where they don't consider it useful to show you the results that where you stand.

[QUOTE=sidra siyal;819289]Moreover grace marks were not given to favorites ,its also accusation :sleeping ;)[/QUOTE]

You are right.

[QUOTE=Jamil Mughal;819339]I don't want to painstakingly waste my time in telling you the modern usages of the word "man". . :laughing [/QUOTE]

Thats sarcasm for you! Nevermind...

By the way when I said, "apt use of grammar", I was referring to your inadequate use of tenses; "passed" instead of pass. As for morality, we shall all see how very moral and committed you turn out to be? Once YOU become AC, like everyone else, you shall start gobbling down "Haram"

"If anything happens, then the roads and courts are opened for everyone, including the qualifiers of screening test. " —"opened" lol ? like seriously???



Oh, and I passed the screening test.

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Mr.Mughal , do you mean to say that mere 100 mcqs are enough to judge a candidates competence?
That too for a test they waited for 5 years.. No one can deny the setting of the paper was incorrect, and it had been scheduled after a year and a half..
I qualified the screening test but knew only 30 mcqs, well i got lucky.. But unfair on the ones who knew 30 and jin ka tukka sahe nahe laga..
Does that mean i was capable and the others wern't as i got lucky?

[QUOTE=jilanishah;819403]Mr.Mughal , do you mean to say that mere 100 mcqs are enough to judge a candidates competence?
That too for a test they waited for 5 years.. No one can deny the setting of the paper was incorrect, and it had been scheduled after a year and a half..
I qualified the screening test but knew only 30 mcqs, well i got lucky.. But unfair on the ones who knew 30 and jin ka tukka sahe nahe laga..
Does that mean i was capable and the others wern't as i got lucky?[/QUOTE]


100 MCQs are sufficient to judge the ability of a person. I accept that a few answer keys were incorrect. But, accusing everyone and making a huge cry like babies is not justified. It's not the case that all the 3400+ qualifiers are children of zardari or Nawaz Sharif, and that we passed the test because we used unjust influence.

However, judging candidates using MCQs is in practice everywhere in the world, same is the case in Pakistan. And SPSC cannot find another way to peep into the mind of a candidate to know that who deserves to be passed. If you don't like the MCQs system, then it will be an advice to start a mass protest against the system.

I am also deeply saddened at the failure of those fellows who studied with blood, sweat and tears. I raised my voice only because a few persons were making baseless accusations that the screening qualifiers are all the favorites.

[QUOTE=jilanishah;819417]Not fighting sister. Just said what i felt..
[B]i cant believe 15000 candidates were dumb[/B].
I know a few who dropped semesters or had taken a long leave from work in order to study, but couldn't qualify..
[B]And such a big institution admitting their mistake and giving grace marks!![/B] They should have simply just re conducted the screening test.[/QUOTE]

In CSS, 20,000+ candidates are reduced to 600+, what will you say about it? Does it mean that all the applicants of CSS are dumb?

When they admitted the mistakes, and granted grace marks in restitution then it's over. They did what they were morally bound to do. Besides, committing errors is the very nature of humankind.

An institution CANNOT afford to commit mistakes!!
CSS is conducted every year.. There is no comparison..
As far as them favouring certain candidates.. I don't agree with this.
Also they initially had said islamiat will be included and then a week prior to the exam they said just Gk, Eng, pak and current affairs..
One cant keep changing the syllabus..

Please come up with some strong arguments. Besides, have a look at this to get a notion of similarity between two exams.

[url]http://www.dawn.com/news/1089766/typo-in-css-paper[/url]

It's just an example. You can find yourself for the previous blunders committed in CSS exams.

[QUOTE=Jamil Mughal;819488]Please come up with some strong arguments. Besides, have a look at this to get a notion of similarity between two exams.

[url]http://www.dawn.com/news/1089766/typo-in-css-paper[/url]

It's just an example. You can find yourself for the previous blunders committed in CSS exams.[/QUOTE]

Did i not say CSS is conducted every year. They can try again next year.. Thats why i said there is no comparison.

My last post on this issue.

هاڻي سنڌ ۾ ڪا به سي ايس ايس، پي سي ايس ۽ ڪا اين ٽي ايس ٽيسٽ ڏيڻ جي ضرورت ناهي. پيپلز پارٽي سنڌ سول سرونٽس قانون پاس ڪيو آهي. هن قانون موجب وزيراعلي ڪنهن سرڪاري ملازم کي ڪٿي به مقرر ڪري سگهي ٿو. پٽيوالي کي ڊي سي، ايس پي کي ماستر، ڪلارڪ کي سيڪريٽري، مطلب جئين مرضي وڻيس تيئين ڪري، وفاقي ملازم کي سنڌ سرڪار ۾ ضم ڪري، جنهن به ملازم کي چاهي ان تان ڪميشن، ٽيسٽون ۽ ڊپارٽيمنٽل امتحان جي شرط ختم ڪري سگهي ٿو. پيپلز پارٽي جي ليڊرن پنهنجن مائٽن، چاپلوسن ۽ دادلن ملازمن جي ترقين بدلين ۽ مقررين لاءِ هي ڪارو قانون پاس ڪيو آهي. وڏي ڳالهه ته پيپلز پارٽي هن قانون ۾ اهو به چيو آهي ته هن قانون کي ڪنهن به عدالت ۾ چئلينج نٿو ڪري سگهجي. هن قانون ذريعي پيپلز پارٽي وارن جا اهي مائٽ، چاپلوس ۽ دادلا ملازم جن کي پيپلز پارٽي ترقيون ڏئي مال وارن کاتن ۽ پوسٽن تي مقرر ڪيو ويو هو، جن کي سپريم ڪورٽ ڪجهه وقت اڳ هٽايو هو ۽ اهي ملازم وري انهن پوسٽن تي اچي ويندا. هي قانون سنڌ جي سڄي بنيادي سول اسٽرڪچر جي تباهي آهي، جيڪا رهيل کهيل نالي ماتر انتظاميه سنڌ ۾ بچي آهي اها به تباه ٿي ويندي،

there is black law for sindhi people and for sindh youth
what are you people tell this injustice

Does anyone have news regarding yesterday's high court proceedings? PIDC centre was pretty much derelict; at first I thought exams got canceled or something...

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Any update?

nothing yet ...

This is it i guess..
I am happy for the ones who did well. I wish them best of luck. :-)